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Congrats to Wicklow GAA on upsetting the odds today. Well done to John Maughan's Offaly on winning promotion, with a 5 point win over a battlingFermanagh side.

MicktheMiller (Offaly) - Posts: 421 - 12/06/2021 19:43:58    2349913

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Looks like the south div was the stronger division now

skirge7 (UK) - Posts: 247 - 12/06/2021 22:33:21    2350010

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Limerick didn't get the massacre people were predicting here, well done Derry they look a very good team with counter attacking running and they have a strong full forward line too. Limerick gave them a good game and we will learn alot from it and we will be in contention for promotion next year.

DUALSUPPORT (Limerick) - Posts: 1038 - 13/06/2021 12:24:31    2350153

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Replying To skirge7:  "Looks like the south div was the stronger division now"
Looks like they were perfectly balanced, one up and one down from each.

catchturnscore (Longford) - Posts: 149 - 13/06/2021 20:59:20    2350491

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What a pity RTÉ didn't bother to show andy highlights of lim/Derry game..after all they did show a few mins of other semI..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2202 - 13/06/2021 23:33:01    2350581

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sorry in ways to see Tipp and Cavan relegated, it tarnishes their provincial wins of last year it could be argued..looking at the results on this website earlier and to see football and hurling league headlines in the middle of June though tells us this was no ordinary year or league (and probably championships)..so while other teams greatly avoided relegation, Tipp and Cavanhave given football neutrals a great boost at the end of last year, and both certainly are not up there high or long enough to be sort of almost rejoicing in their relegations to Division 4...for all the talk of the semi finals in Divison 1 Kerry beat Tyrone and Dublin beat Donegal..these games as the norm for the past few years were talked up and up by the media but the results are the same...well done to the sucessful teams including my own Offaly this weekend, and commiserations to counties like Tipp and Cavan...

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 14/06/2021 00:03:43    2350591

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There's going to be a final. Offaly v Derry next Saturday in Croke Park

skirge7 (UK) - Posts: 247 - 14/06/2021 00:08:18    2350593

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Replying To skirge7:  "There's going to be a final. Offaly v Derry next Saturday in Croke Park"
Great to see both teams wanting to play...nothing is guaranteed for any team in the championship, so playing any final where theres a chance of silverware and playing in Croke Park...it will be an interesting game...I will have a go at predicting it later in the week...

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 14/06/2021 23:13:32    2351005

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Time to analyse and see who will win Division 3...Derry have been, like Offaly the form team, with most neutrals probably giving Derry more thumbs up than Offaly with Cavan as Ulster champions is Derrys North section. Offaly did have Tipp as Munster champions in their group, but no more than Offaly beating Kilkenny in the 1980s in Leinster Hurling, Kilkenny were nearly always favourites inthe next game played between the counties, be it league or championship. Tipperary for all their glory last year in Munster, most pundits will say Kerry, and if not them, Cork, will win this years Munster championship...anything can happen in Ulster as such, so Cavans Ulster win, while no doubt will not be taken sincerely by the established teams etc. do probably have a better chance of regaining Ulster than Tipp do of Munster...that said, I really do hope Tipp can build on last year, and Cavan likewise..

Offaly have really settled this league, playing very positive football, and while not racking up totals seen in higher divisions, have been very solid, with a very good impact bench to call on. Offaly will certainly go for this, no doubt about it. Derry, have been impressive, probably they will say their worst performance was against Limerick...Derry might just have a bit more in the tank scoring wise and more often than Offaly tomorrow...hats off to both teams for opting to play their final..a final is a final, and realistically it will be a long summer for both possibly with straight knock out championship ahead...Derry by 3 or 4.. but if Offaly are closer with a a few minutes left their new found belief could get them over the line...

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 18/06/2021 23:46:50    2351940

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Derry v Offaly..................Derry

Ollie2 (Louth) - Posts: 781 - 19/06/2021 10:11:41    2351958

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Looking forward to this game this evening, want to get a look at Derry, I see they are favs to win this, Offaly a coming team too.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2736 - 19/06/2021 10:28:23    2351961

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Replying To Fairplayalways:  "Time to analyse and see who will win Division 3...Derry have been, like Offaly the form team, with most neutrals probably giving Derry more thumbs up than Offaly with Cavan as Ulster champions is Derrys North section. Offaly did have Tipp as Munster champions in their group, but no more than Offaly beating Kilkenny in the 1980s in Leinster Hurling, Kilkenny were nearly always favourites inthe next game played between the counties, be it league or championship. Tipperary for all their glory last year in Munster, most pundits will say Kerry, and if not them, Cork, will win this years Munster championship...anything can happen in Ulster as such, so Cavans Ulster win, while no doubt will not be taken sincerely by the established teams etc. do probably have a better chance of regaining Ulster than Tipp do of Munster...that said, I really do hope Tipp can build on last year, and Cavan likewise..

Offaly have really settled this league, playing very positive football, and while not racking up totals seen in higher divisions, have been very solid, with a very good impact bench to call on. Offaly will certainly go for this, no doubt about it. Derry, have been impressive, probably they will say their worst performance was against Limerick...Derry might just have a bit more in the tank scoring wise and more often than Offaly tomorrow...hats off to both teams for opting to play their final..a final is a final, and realistically it will be a long summer for both possibly with straight knock out championship ahead...Derry by 3 or 4.. but if Offaly are closer with a a few minutes left their new found belief could get them over the line..."
You have being very condescending towards Limerick on this thread on a number of occasions. Derry worst performance was against Limerick is a horse**** statement. Derry played very well and their full forward line was on fire with some of the points they kicked. If anything the Limerick forwards apart from Hugh and Robbie Bourke played below their best. Limerick gave Derry a good game and didn't leave them have it all their own way.

DUALSUPPORT (Limerick) - Posts: 1038 - 19/06/2021 11:37:19    2351980

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "Looking forward to this game this evening, want to get a look at Derry, I see they are favs to win this, Offaly a coming team too."
Think Derry might win this one, but we'll give our best.

MicktheMiller (Offaly) - Posts: 421 - 19/06/2021 11:50:19    2351984

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Replying To DUALSUPPORT:  "Limerick didn't get the massacre people were predicting here, well done Derry they look a very good team with counter attacking running and they have a strong full forward line too. Limerick gave them a good game and we will learn alot from it and we will be in contention for promotion next year."
Does that surprise you!. RTE are only interested in showing games between a few counties and forget about the rest. There choices for viewing is something similar to their analysis (if you could call it analysis). Some of the best games to watch are from the so called 'weaker counties' who at least try to play football and leave out the refined handball and basket skills! I sure that most folk in all the counties pay their license fee so equal treatment would be nice.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 19/06/2021 12:19:11    2351995

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Derry by four points.

Byanthon (Tyrone) - Posts: 1780 - 19/06/2021 16:29:01    2352033

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A stark example of what happens when you can't win your own ball. Offaly were overpowered by Derry around the middle and the final score reflected that. The Offaly keeper compounded the struggle by some very poor kickouts that went nowhere close to a teammate. The Derry defense was also able to strip a lot of ball from naive Offaly ball carriers. A lot for John Maughan and co to fix before next Sunday.

Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2521 - 20/06/2021 09:57:44    2352110

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Replying To Fairplayalways:  "Time to analyse and see who will win Division 3...Derry have been, like Offaly the form team, with most neutrals probably giving Derry more thumbs up than Offaly with Cavan as Ulster champions is Derrys North section. Offaly did have Tipp as Munster champions in their group, but no more than Offaly beating Kilkenny in the 1980s in Leinster Hurling, Kilkenny were nearly always favourites inthe next game played between the counties, be it league or championship. Tipperary for all their glory last year in Munster, most pundits will say Kerry, and if not them, Cork, will win this years Munster championship...anything can happen in Ulster as such, so Cavans Ulster win, while no doubt will not be taken sincerely by the established teams etc. do probably have a better chance of regaining Ulster than Tipp do of Munster...that said, I really do hope Tipp can build on last year, and Cavan likewise..

Offaly have really settled this league, playing very positive football, and while not racking up totals seen in higher divisions, have been very solid, with a very good impact bench to call on. Offaly will certainly go for this, no doubt about it. Derry, have been impressive, probably they will say their worst performance was against Limerick...Derry might just have a bit more in the tank scoring wise and more often than Offaly tomorrow...hats off to both teams for opting to play their final..a final is a final, and realistically it will be a long summer for both possibly with straight knock out championship ahead...Derry by 3 or 4.. but if Offaly are closer with a a few minutes left their new found belief could get them over the line..."
Fairplayalways, commiserations on yesterdays result with Derry, I read on the HS home page where John Maughan is making "Offaly football great again." - can I ask in your own opinion what positives has he brought into the Offaly set up, is he the Messiah that Offaly football needs.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2907 - 20/06/2021 10:18:08    2352113

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Replying To Pericles:  "A stark example of what happens when you can't win your own ball. Offaly were overpowered by Derry around the middle and the final score reflected that. The Offaly keeper compounded the struggle by some very poor kickouts that went nowhere close to a teammate. The Derry defense was also able to strip a lot of ball from naive Offaly ball carriers. A lot for John Maughan and co to fix before next Sunday."
Derry were the better team yesterday, I listened to the radio for most of the game, and only saw the last 10 minutes on TG4. The game was wrapped up by then. Offaly and John Maughan, have a bit of work to do in advance of the Louth game. That will be test of the team's ability to recover from yesterday.
1-6 was a poor return from 70 minutes football.
Offaly have achieved promotion to Division 2 of the league, which was their target. It will be a tough league, but playing at a higher level will improve Offaly, even if it is a hard lesson.

MicktheMiller (Offaly) - Posts: 421 - 20/06/2021 12:59:44    2352142

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Replying To supersub15:  "Fairplayalways, commiserations on yesterdays result with Derry, I read on the HS home page where John Maughan is making "Offaly football great again." - can I ask in your own opinion what positives has he brought into the Offaly set up, is he the Messiah that Offaly football needs."
look, he appears to to have stableized them and at least this league, upto Saturday, they were playing open attacking football, the fist couple of years of Maughans tenure were "Trapatoni" style with ferocious negative play and safety first which doesnt count on the scoreboard when the FT whistle blows..I sat down to watch Saturdays game and unfortunately another sporting issue I am involved in was ongoing and I was taking calls an whatspping as I watched. The bit I seen Offaly looked totally lost in Croke Park, and thats a strange thing for an Offaly man to say isnt it..the open space seemed alien to them and they appeared to struggle to even come to terms with it let alone master it and utilise it. Related it begs the question on the issue of lesse teams getting to play there and when they do, it can be a massacre. (12 points was a big defeat but not a massacre)

I seen Waterford many years ago too getting to a AI hurling semi final against the great kilkenny team, and hadnt been in CP in a few years, that particular team, and it rained before the game, apart from getting to grips with the huge spaces, Waterford players slipped and fell all over the place. Just saying how things can go wrong onto of every thing else. Kilkenny were used to CP week in week out and had no difficulties at all and won the game.

Maughan has done a nice job with Offaly, we got promoted, didnt think Ide see that at start of league based on other years, played nice football and ran up fairly decent tallies. Saturday, Derry were way more relaxex into the game, kicked on as if they played in CP on a regular basis, Offaly looked lost. I cant say Ide blame Johh Maughan for that, Derry havent been in CP too often either recently no more than Offaly. Derry had the players to win the game and adjusted well. Offalys 1-06 will not win you anything now a days nor wouldnt for the last 25 years or so...a bit of everthing happend Offaly...Divison 2 will be a test for them now next year..they have achieved their goal. THey were right to play the final, all divisons should have played their finals, its a joke with some teams not out for 3 weeks...

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 21/06/2021 16:44:28    2352434

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Replying To MicktheMiller:  "Derry were the better team yesterday, I listened to the radio for most of the game, and only saw the last 10 minutes on TG4. The game was wrapped up by then. Offaly and John Maughan, have a bit of work to do in advance of the Louth game. That will be test of the team's ability to recover from yesterday.
1-6 was a poor return from 70 minutes football.
Offaly have achieved promotion to Division 2 of the league, which was their target. It will be a tough league, but playing at a higher level will improve Offaly, even if it is a hard lesson."
agree re promotion, taken with both hands...1-06 is a reminder of our collapse against Mayo in 1997..only we could blame a wet day and not being used to croke park that day...Derry certainly showed us the levels we can be expecting next year in Divison 2...but Louth first next weekend, and recover from that display on Saturday..we looked miles off the pace...

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 21/06/2021 16:48:31    2352436

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