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Replying To wexico15: "I fancied us given how poor Waterford were last week but wasn't shocked, games between the 2 of us have been close generally in the last 5 years and Waterford have won 3 of the last 4 encounters between league and championship, all 3 of those wins in Wexford Park. Glorified challenge match for yourselves next week ( think you need to lose by 29 points to be in bother) and do or die for us so that will be an unusual dynamic." very surprised at result today however i am sure we will take nothing for granted next week and will be going all out for win . Blackbog (Carlow) - Posts: 705 - 22/05/2021 22:53:55 2344343 Link
Replying To Blackbog: "very surprised at result today however i am sure we will take nothing for granted next week and will be going all out for win ." I am very saddened to see Wexford football gone back so far, since the summer of 2004 or 5 I think Wexford almost caught Dublin (wasnt that a Leinster final)...Jason Ryan was working the oracle with them and they had some lovely players...no disrespect at all to Waterford and well done to them.. Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 23/05/2021 00:04:45 2344360 Link
Replying To Blackbog: "very surprised at result today however i am sure we will take nothing for granted next week and will be going all out for win ." Thought we were tactically poor too many players out of position too often. Badly misplaced passes and wrong options took going forwards in Waterfords 45 also didnt help. When you get turned over or lose the ball with a sloppy pass you are vulnerable to a quick counter which Waterford did very well. Apart from that a few players played well individually. Waterford seemed more up for it too suppose they had to win. Alot to work on and get right before the Carlow game not sure if theres enough time to do it. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11918 - 23/05/2021 08:38:23 2344379 Link
Replying To Blackbog: "very surprised at result today however i am sure we will take nothing for granted next week and will be going all out for win ." Thought we were tactically poor too many players out of position too often. Badly misplaced passes and wrong options took going forwards in Waterfords 45 also didnt help. When you get turned over or lose the ball with a sloppy pass you are vulnerable to a quick counter which Waterford did very well. Apart from that a few players played well individually. Waterford seemed more up for it too suppose they had to win. Alot to work on and get right before the Carlow game not sure if theres enough time to do it. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11918 - 23/05/2021 09:17:14 2344391 Link
Replying To Fairplayalways: "I am very saddened to see Wexford football gone back so far, since the summer of 2004 or 5 I think Wexford almost caught Dublin (wasnt that a Leinster final)...Jason Ryan was working the oracle with them and they had some lovely players...no disrespect at all to Waterford and well done to them.." 2008 we got the AISF after a bad beating by Dublin in the Leinster final. 2011 was the 1 that got away we should've beaten Dublin in that years Leinster final. We also won the Leinster u21 football final that year. But Breen, captain of that team, Matt O Hanlon, current senior hurling co captain, and liam og McGovern ended up concentrating on hurling. Kevin O Grady, Conor Carthy, Michael Furlong were the only 3 playing against Waterford from that team . Since then hurling and rugby have both got alot more successful and soccer always was very popular here. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11918 - 23/05/2021 09:36:32 2344398 Link
Yeah between 2004-14 we reached 7 leinster semi finals and 2 leinster finals going toe to toe with Dublin in 10,11 and 12 and the all ireland semi final in 2008. From 2015 onwards I believe we've won no leinster championship game and won 2 qualifier games. I don't think people appreciate how much of a dual county wexford is at club level, only 2 clubs play hurling only Oulart and Rathnure while Wexford town is a peculiar situation with several football only clubs and 2 hurling only clubs which all have a good bit of crossover. This year due to no relegation in 2020 there is 13 senior clubs in hurling and football. 6 clubs are senior in both while Sarsfields in football and Faythe Harriers in hurling are single code senior clubs in Wexford town with a bit of crossover, Lee Chin plays for both for example. Plenty of high profile hurlers excel for there clubs at football too, to my mind Wexford hurlers full back Liam Ryan has been the best midfielder in Wexford club football for the last 4-5 years while Rory o'connor was 1 of 3 players nominated for wexford club footballer of the year in 2020. Pre covid hurling club championship would be alot more popular in terms of spectators and I was told would typically account for 80% of the total gate receipts from club championships. bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 23/05/2021 10:34:25 2344410 Link
Replying To wexico15: "I fancied us given how poor Waterford were last week but wasn't shocked, games between the 2 of us have been close generally in the last 5 years and Waterford have won 3 of the last 4 encounters between league and championship, all 3 of those wins in Wexford Park. Glorified challenge match for yourselves next week ( think you need to lose by 29 points to be in bother) and do or die for us so that will be an unusual dynamic." Waterford v Wexford result possibly a knee jerk reaction to the Paul / Davy Fit's issues when he (PG) was Wexford manager. Probably affected team preparation, along with rapid change of managers and covid issues. It will all come good. supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2907 - 23/05/2021 11:39:22 2344427 Link
Replying To supersub15: "Waterford v Wexford result possibly a knee jerk reaction to the Paul / Davy Fit's issues when he (PG) was Wexford manager. Probably affected team preparation, along with rapid change of managers and covid issues. It will all come good." Think the Galvin stuff wouldn't have made any difference. Poor decision making and general rustiness were bigger problems. Think Waterford having played a game already probably helped them. Hard to correct problems when you havent played a game to see what the problems are. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11918 - 23/05/2021 12:04:46 2344445 Link
Waterford turned us over in 2018&19 too so don't see the Galvin thing as much of an impact myself, seems to be alot of distain towards him in Wexford but I wouldn't subscribe to that opinion personally, taught the most progressive football we've played in the last 2-3 years was in the league games under Galvin just before the Covid lockdown. bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 23/05/2021 12:58:43 2344462 Link
Interesting results this week 1. Ollie 2 LU - 8 1. Wexico Wex - 8 1. Byanthon Ty - 8 1. Optimist Lu - 8 5. Blackbog Car - 6 5. OTBAR ROS - 6 5. Trump Gal - 6 5. Strapper Lu - 6 5. 97 Cavan Cav - 6 5 Fey USA - 6 11. Viking Wex - 4 11. Onion B Car - 4 11. Super Sub Car - 4 11. Carolvia Car - 4 15. Tacai Leitrim - 0 right folks I think that is right . Oh to be a rossie did not play this week after a promising start and Tacai from Leitrim came in a a late runner. Any edits let me know! Blackbog (Carlow) - Posts: 705 - 23/05/2021 18:05:37 2344646 Link
For next week s fixtures Louth v Sligo - Draw Antrim v Leitrim - Antrim 6 Carlow v Wexford - Carlow 5 Blackbog (Carlow) - Posts: 705 - 23/05/2021 18:07:51 2344649 Link
Replying To wexico15: "Waterford turned us over in 2018&19 too so don't see the Galvin thing as much of an impact myself, seems to be alot of distain towards him in Wexford but I wouldn't subscribe to that opinion personally, taught the most progressive football we've played in the last 2-3 years was in the league games under Galvin just before the Covid lockdown." I thought so too. My dislike for him is because he didnt see it through. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11918 - 23/05/2021 18:08:06 2344651 Link
I know we have the forecast league table but I am going to stick my head over the Parapet and say that the Semis will be Antrim v Waterford and Louth v Carlow Much as it pains me I think Louth and Antrim will be promoted and Antrim as Champions Blackbog (Carlow) - Posts: 705 - 23/05/2021 18:50:42 2344676 Link
Replying To Blackbog: "For next week s fixtures Louth v Sligo - Draw Antrim v Leitrim - Antrim 6 Carlow v Wexford - Carlow 5" Louth v Sligo- Louth by 2 Antrim v Leitrim- Antrim by 7 Carlow v Wexford- Wexford by 2 Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11918 - 23/05/2021 21:20:15 2344740 Link
Louth v Sligo - - - Sligo by 0-02 Antrim v Leitrim - - - Antrim by 0 - 05 Carlow v Wexford - - - Carlow by 0 - 01 supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2907 - 23/05/2021 21:51:39 2344757 Link
Louth v Sligo- Louth by 5 Antrim v Leitrim- Antrim by 10 Carlow v Wexford- Carlow by 3 ninjasmyth (Louth) - Posts: 717 - 24/05/2021 15:26:04 2345018 Link
Louth by 3 Antrim by 5 Carlow by 4 thestrapper49 (Louth) - Posts: 314 - 24/05/2021 17:20:55 2345079 Link
Have to say i am dissappoined in Leitrim thus far I really expected them to be in the hunt....any insights as to why it has not. Also.the forecasts including my own are very conservative for the Carlow v Wexford clash. Viking going that bit further with a Wexford win. The numbers would suggest a cakewalk for the Scallion Stars. My conservatism is based on being Carlow we naturally lack that boldness that stronger county supporters have. My main reasons not to forecast a 16 point win is 1.Wexford wont be as bad agsin and need the win 2.Carlow may take opportunity to play different players in readiness for semi. Let see what pans out Blackbog (Carlow) - Posts: 705 - 24/05/2021 20:51:20 2345180 Link
Louth v Sligo- Draw Antrim v Leitrim- Leitrim by 3 Carlow v Wexford- Wexford by 3 P.Mckenna (Louth) - Posts: 105 - 24/05/2021 21:15:37 2345193 Link
Louth by 4 Antrim by 5 Carlow by 8 Onion Breath (Carlow) - Posts: 1412 - 24/05/2021 22:47:06 2345224 Link