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Saw a topic on the national forum and thought it might be interesting to discuss here. Who are some of the players that were involved that had one or a couple of good years and were then discarded or dropped off the panel. The names that come to mind for me straight away are from RoyalDunne's much beloved Ballinabrackey. Chris O'Connor - appeared from almost nowhere in the 2007 1/4 final v Tyrone, had a great game and held his spot for a couple of years and then seemed to just disappear. He's still doing it for the bracks at club level the whole time so dunno how he was never given another chance Damian Carroll - Got a chance under Banty (thanks in most part to John Evans) and then MOD seemed to turf him out when he came in. Very good and strong centre forward but the face didn't seem to fit under MOD. I would consider Alan Nestor and Alan Forde as guys who were more effected by injuries and illness so probably wouldn't fit into the area of being discarded or dropped. Anyone else that you folks would consider as 1/2 season wonders who then disappeared. brian (Meath) - Posts: 1954 - 09/04/2021 10:07:12 2336534 Link
Replying To brian: "Saw a topic on the national forum and thought it might be interesting to discuss here. Who are some of the players that were involved that had one or a couple of good years and were then discarded or dropped off the panel. The names that come to mind for me straight away are from RoyalDunne's much beloved Ballinabrackey. Chris O'Connor - appeared from almost nowhere in the 2007 1/4 final v Tyrone, had a great game and held his spot for a couple of years and then seemed to just disappear. He's still doing it for the bracks at club level the whole time so dunno how he was never given another chance Damian Carroll - Got a chance under Banty (thanks in most part to John Evans) and then MOD seemed to turf him out when he came in. Very good and strong centre forward but the face didn't seem to fit under MOD. I would consider Alan Nestor and Alan Forde as guys who were more effected by injuries and illness so probably wouldn't fit into the area of being discarded or dropped. Anyone else that you folks would consider as 1/2 season wonders who then disappeared." A maybe controversial one but Eamon Wallace was absolutely unplayable in 2013 as a 19 year old and hasn't really got back to those levels since for Meath. LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1463 - 09/04/2021 10:28:09 2336536 Link
Replying To LeitrimRoyal99: "A maybe controversial one but Eamon Wallace was absolutely unplayable in 2013 as a 19 year old and hasn't really got back to those levels since for Meath." Yeah thats a fair point. Himself and Michael Newman both got all star nominations that year i believe. I'd say that Joey looks to be the better footballer of the two. brian (Meath) - Posts: 1954 - 09/04/2021 10:59:51 2336548 Link
Daithi Regan was a very good player that didn't seem to be around for too long Meath10 (Meath) - Posts: 183 - 09/04/2021 11:46:38 2336568 Link
Replying To Meath10: "Daithi Regan was a very good player that didn't seem to be around for too long" Yeah I'd say that's a fair call too. Came in during 2003 season (probably should've been in earlier) and i think cast aside by Colm Coyle from 2007 but was probably passed his prime by that stage. brian (Meath) - Posts: 1954 - 09/04/2021 11:56:49 2336573 Link
Shane Barrett from Na Fianna was top class corner forward but cane back too late from soccer I feel Harry Rooney ( Skyrne ) all the attributes Conor Gillespie (Summerhill ) so unlucky Ollie Lewis ( Na Fianna ) Stephen Corrigan ( Wolfe Tones ) Bear10 (Meath) - Posts: 463 - 09/04/2021 12:33:02 2336584 Link
Replying To Bear10: "Shane Barrett from Na Fianna was top class corner forward but cane back too late from soccer I feel Harry Rooney ( Skyrne ) all the attributes Conor Gillespie (Summerhill ) so unlucky Ollie Lewis ( Na Fianna ) Stephen Corrigan ( Wolfe Tones )" Couple of good calls but couple of lads that never played county but both probably should have brian (Meath) - Posts: 1954 - 09/04/2021 12:39:44 2336587 Link
Replying To Bear10: "Shane Barrett from Na Fianna was top class corner forward but cane back too late from soccer I feel Harry Rooney ( Skyrne ) all the attributes Conor Gillespie (Summerhill ) so unlucky Ollie Lewis ( Na Fianna ) Stephen Corrigan ( Wolfe Tones )" Harry Rooney is a good one. Type of player we don't have. He's been asked back too but just doesn't have the interest in playing county football. It's a pity LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1463 - 09/04/2021 13:46:45 2336594 Link
Replying To brian: "Saw a topic on the national forum and thought it might be interesting to discuss here. Who are some of the players that were involved that had one or a couple of good years and were then discarded or dropped off the panel. The names that come to mind for me straight away are from RoyalDunne's much beloved Ballinabrackey. Chris O'Connor - appeared from almost nowhere in the 2007 1/4 final v Tyrone, had a great game and held his spot for a couple of years and then seemed to just disappear. He's still doing it for the bracks at club level the whole time so dunno how he was never given another chance Damian Carroll - Got a chance under Banty (thanks in most part to John Evans) and then MOD seemed to turf him out when he came in. Very good and strong centre forward but the face didn't seem to fit under MOD. I would consider Alan Nestor and Alan Forde as guys who were more effected by injuries and illness so probably wouldn't fit into the area of being discarded or dropped. Anyone else that you folks would consider as 1/2 season wonders who then disappeared." Actually juicy O'Connor was probably the best player not in team after mod came in. Texted that he no longer needed/wanted him , played brilliantly for bracks that year after been dropped, selectors said he needed to be brought back mod said he was good defender but went upfield too much and was too slow for the new Meath. Carroll's demise started when he questioned training methods. That was the end of him. Maybe mod didn't like players from bracks ? But both had more to offer county and were treated very badly by Meath management. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 10/04/2021 13:13:46 2336719 Link
Mick Ahern badly mistreated by mgmt , Bided his time and was apprentice to Murphy Got 1 opportunity and Never got a chance after that and I Seen first hand that he was completely disillusioned with the set up and fell out of love with the game . . Cathal O Dwyer - I dont I think need to say anymore about this man, he would be a superstar if he played now . . Shooting the lights out every game braxton_hicks (Meath) - Posts: 31 - 12/04/2021 14:15:17 2336977 Link
Replying To braxton_hicks: "Mick Ahern badly mistreated by mgmt , Bided his time and was apprentice to Murphy Got 1 opportunity and Never got a chance after that and I Seen first hand that he was completely disillusioned with the set up and fell out of love with the game . . Cathal O Dwyer - I dont I think need to say anymore about this man, he would be a superstar if he played now . . Shooting the lights out every game" cant help believen that Dunshaughlin was black marked by some mangers down the years, some of that because of people may have had a run in with their administrators..wether they were one of the many top quality referees or county board delagates that the club has produced . tis was taken out on some players Littleslugger (Meath) - Posts: 10 - 13/04/2021 14:13:45 2337071 Link
Replying To Littleslugger: "cant help believen that Dunshaughlin was black marked by some mangers down the years, some of that because of people may have had a run in with their administrators..wether they were one of the many top quality referees or county board delagates that the club has produced . tis was taken out on some players" This is nonsense Tell me one player who was black listed from Dunshaughlin and Cathal Dwyer was certainly it His got his chance Dunshaughlin is a club who are over represented in the halls of pairc tailtean in all positions referees included Have had many a high profile manager with influence in county set up And long serving county players head4dblackspot (Meath) - Posts: 513 - 13/04/2021 17:54:25 2337092 Link
Replying To head4dblackspot: "This is nonsense Tell me one player who was black listed from Dunshaughlin and Cathal Dwyer was certainly it His got his chance Dunshaughlin is a club who are over represented in the halls of pairc tailtean in all positions referees included Have had many a high profile manager with influence in county set up And long serving county players" I don't agree that we were treated any differently than other clubs. Sometimes it's all about timing and taking your opportunity and possibly some luck too. On the subject of providing Administrators and Referees to Meath, perhaps we had to shoulder more than our share because other clubs wouldn't, yours especially. You seem to be more interested in fighting with each other, and stirring it, than helping to administrate the Association in Meath. Apart from Health & Wellbeing, what Officer have you supplied to the county in the last 20 years? Do you even have a Referee? aghref (Meath) - Posts: 148 - 13/04/2021 18:51:22 2337095 Link
Replying To head4dblackspot: "This is nonsense Tell me one player who was black listed from Dunshaughlin and Cathal Dwyer was certainly it His got his chance Dunshaughlin is a club who are over represented in the halls of pairc tailtean in all positions referees included Have had many a high profile manager with influence in county set up And long serving county players" Sorry I meant Cathal Dwyer was certainly NOT head4dblackspot (Meath) - Posts: 513 - 13/04/2021 19:47:13 2337099 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "Actually juicy O'Connor was probably the best player not in team after mod came in. Texted that he no longer needed/wanted him , played brilliantly for bracks that year after been dropped, selectors said he needed to be brought back mod said he was good defender but went upfield too much and was too slow for the new Meath. Carroll's demise started when he questioned training methods. That was the end of him. Maybe mod didn't like players from bracks ? But both had more to offer county and were treated very badly by Meath management." Was he really just texted not wanted.?? No phone call Borderroyal (Meath) - Posts: 488 - 13/04/2021 20:25:07 2337105 Link
Replying To LeitrimRoyal99: "A maybe controversial one but Eamon Wallace was absolutely unplayable in 2013 as a 19 year old and hasn't really got back to those levels since for Meath." Very wrong considering he played his best for ratoath in 2019 when they won the keegan and subsequently doesn't get played by the meath manager . lots of players including Seamus mattimoe/eamon/Andrew tormay/damo carroll are surpassed by a flawed system in meath where a manager is picking a team based on if they have an S and C degree and not if they can play football. Go to a club game and you will see the best players on the pitch are not in the county starting team. Manager is picking players that look like inter County players but don't play like them. rubia (Meath) - Posts: 26 - 14/04/2021 02:31:10 2337127 Link
Replying To rubia: "Very wrong considering he played his best for ratoath in 2019 when they won the keegan and subsequently doesn't get played by the meath manager . lots of players including Seamus mattimoe/eamon/Andrew tormay/damo carroll are surpassed by a flawed system in meath where a manager is picking a team based on if they have an S and C degree and not if they can play football. Go to a club game and you will see the best players on the pitch are not in the county starting team. Manager is picking players that look like inter County players but don't play like them." Rubbish head4dblackspot (Meath) - Posts: 513 - 14/04/2021 10:09:52 2337138 Link
Replying To rubia: "Very wrong considering he played his best for ratoath in 2019 when they won the keegan and subsequently doesn't get played by the meath manager . lots of players including Seamus mattimoe/eamon/Andrew tormay/damo carroll are surpassed by a flawed system in meath where a manager is picking a team based on if they have an S and C degree and not if they can play football. Go to a club game and you will see the best players on the pitch are not in the county starting team. Manager is picking players that look like inter County players but don't play like them." the reality is Andy is no different than any other Manager out there in that he has players that he likes and players that iho don't fit. The question is whether Andy is correct in his assessment or not....and the reality is we wont know until either someone else comes in and a Player thrives under that new Manager or that players shoots the lights out in Club as you suggest with EWallce in 2013 ….remember Andy had Eamonn as a Minor...so he bludy well has a view I can tell you on what Eamonn can or cant bring to the party To mention another Players ...O Coialiean of Navan. He too crosswords with Andy in the minor year...was he worth more than a few o byrne cup games Forgetting about Andy Our problem , year in year out is each bludy Manger takes it upon himself to be the one to lead us to the Promised Land....pure horsit in my opinion....I'll know the right Guy has the Job, when the first thing he says is "I'll win nothing in my tenure , and my priority s to develop the squad to a level of 25 Div 1 standard guys by the time my time is run, and the next man then has some chance at silverwear" Thelongwoodslasher (Meath)* - Posts: 385 - 14/04/2021 10:23:44 2337142 Link
Kind of going off topic here but the clubs have a bit to answer in terms of the GK issue. How many club keepers do keeper specific training or do they just spend 10-15 mins every session pumping balls as far as possible off a tee and then stand in goals when the rest of the lads are practising shots. In my not to distant past playing days that was the story of our sessions and that with a GK running the show. In my opinion thats why there is not a massive crop to pick from. Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 631 - 14/04/2021 10:47:33 2337148 Link
Andrew Tormey, David Crimmins, Paul Shankey, Brian Sheridan, Gary O'Brien, Dalton McDonagh, Jamie Queeney, Alan Forde, David Bray Kepak10 (Meath) - Posts: 162 - 14/04/2021 11:19:44 2337155 Link