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Another Straight Knock-Out Championship In 2021?

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "I just think unionists would never accept to be part of a new Ireland if gaelic was the national sport. There are still plenty unionists living in the pale and the border counties you know, they'll all come out of the woodwork as well. They'll be the first ones in the queue for a British passport, as the right to dual citizenship will apply to everyone born on the island of Ireland, not just in the six counties."
Come out of the woodwork and do what? Get a British passport? That'll fix us all. Nobody will be forcing them into the GAA just like nobody is forced the free state unionists to get involved. GAA or any sport for that matter will hardly be the tipping point for the future of Ireland.

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2386 - 26/03/2021 15:38:29    2335121

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Replying To Viking66:  "They are all entitled to British passports and most 26 counties unionists probably have them already."
Your wrong. I live in a town with plenty of unionists and not one of them has a British passport. Unionists in the North should ask unionists in the 26 what life is south of the border. They have the same rights as any republican.

thegadfly (Cavan) - Posts: 290 - 26/03/2021 17:53:32    2335130

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Ah it's grand iud spot in fairness, on a good day there is nowhere better altogether there is plenty of places I'd rater be today :-)

I was in wexford for a few days last summer its a lovely spot we'll definitely go back again when things open up properly."
Ah Tommy will you stop. Things are bad enough without you going back. They've suffered enough at this stage.

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 26/03/2021 18:36:49    2335136

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Replying To thegadfly:  "Your wrong. I live in a town with plenty of unionists and not one of them has a British passport. Unionists in the North should ask unionists in the 26 what life is south of the border. They have the same rights as any republican."
I know a few down here who do.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12074 - 26/03/2021 19:54:51    2335143

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "No they're not, being born in the 26 counties doesn't entitle you to a British passport, unless other criteria is met."
They are if their parents are British passport holders I think. Most have lived in the UK too

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12074 - 26/03/2021 20:11:56    2335145

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Replying To Viking66:  "They are if their parents are British passport holders I think. Most have lived in the UK too"
That's why I said other criteria, but having a parent or even both holding British passports doesn't in itself entitle their children to the same passport unless one or both parents are British citizens as opposed to British subjects.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 26/03/2021 21:25:11    2335151

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We all know there is a lot of people in the South who dislike the GAA. A lot of influential people. And they would be glad to keep the GAA banned as it is at the moment. They have to be challenged.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2522 - 27/03/2021 17:56:34    2335203

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Replying To galwayford:  "We all know there is a lot of people in the South who dislike the GAA. A lot of influential people. And they would be glad to keep the GAA banned as it is at the moment. They have to be challenged."
Name some of these "influential people" in the South, who want the GAA to be permanently banned?

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2481 - 27/03/2021 18:43:55    2335206

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The GAA isn't being "banned".

The GAA isn't going to have a negative impact on the chances of a United Ireland.

We've a pandemic at the minute and GAA is amateur and so it's not being prioritised right now.

We got an All Ireland last year despite being amateur because everyone really wants to do their best to make sure there will be Inter county All Ireland champions each year.

We're not playing now because all we'll really look to guarantee is that there's inter county championship this year and there's lots of time for that to be fit in, in whatever form.

Personally I think it's unlikely that we get any club action at all this year. It'd certainly need a big ramp up in the pace of vaccinations to get grassroots sport back.

There's no conspiracy or anti-GAA agendas at play here. There just need to be difficult choices made and grassroots sport is just going to be something that suffers.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4241 - 28/03/2021 13:38:18    2335250

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Replying To galwayford:  "We all know there is a lot of people in the South who dislike the GAA. A lot of influential people. And they would be glad to keep the GAA banned as it is at the moment. They have to be challenged."
Name these people who want GAA banned?

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3513 - 28/03/2021 14:21:29    2335255

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Replying To KillingFields:  "Name these people who want GAA banned?"
A lot of the mainstream media, INM, RTE, prominant people in FG and FF. For example a few weeks ago, Senator McDowell warned the GAA about playing games in Northern Ireland. What business was it of his. Why is intercounty GAA banned by the government.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2522 - 28/03/2021 15:44:56    2335266

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Replying To galwayford:  "A lot of the mainstream media, INM, RTE, prominant people in FG and FF. For example a few weeks ago, Senator McDowell warned the GAA about playing games in Northern Ireland. What business was it of his. Why is intercounty GAA banned by the government."
McDowell has always been voicing his rightwing opinions about things and hes calling himself a journalist these days so it's only worse hes getting.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12074 - 29/03/2021 13:27:46    2335306

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Replying To galwayford:  "A lot of the mainstream media, INM, RTE, prominant people in FG and FF. For example a few weeks ago, Senator McDowell warned the GAA about playing games in Northern Ireland. What business was it of his. Why is intercounty GAA banned by the government."
There isnt at all. Care to name actual people.
Inter county GAA is banned because the players are mixing across multiple workplaces if not working at home and then travelling as amateurs for training/matches. completely different to pros

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3513 - 29/03/2021 16:36:34    2335315

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Replying To KillingFields:  "There isnt at all. Care to name actual people.
Inter county GAA is banned because the players are mixing across multiple workplaces if not working at home and then travelling as amateurs for training/matches. completely different to pros"
Travelling to matches or training is hardly an issue is it? How do you think the pros get to training? By beaming there, star trek style?

And you can be sure that lots of these "elite" sportsmen in fact are mixing with other people throughout lockdown, you don't honestly think they spend all their free time cocooning do you?

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1726 - 29/03/2021 19:47:00    2335326

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Replying To Galway9801:  "Travelling to matches or training is hardly an issue is it? How do you think the pros get to training? By beaming there, star trek style?

And you can be sure that lots of these "elite" sportsmen in fact are mixing with other people throughout lockdown, you don't honestly think they spend all their free time cocooning do you?"
It was right GAA was halted but I believe it's time to allow training again. Out in the open air the chances of transmission are extremely low. Keep dressing rooms closed etc but let us out on the field.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11237 - 29/03/2021 20:03:16    2335328

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Replying To yew_tree:  "It was right GAA was halted but I believe it's time to allow training again. Out in the open air the chances of transmission are extremely low. Keep dressing rooms closed etc but let us out on the field."
Im not sure like, for starters AFAIK league of Ireland is semi pro, meaning most of them have other jobs, so that shouldn't have started before the gaa.

And regarding gaa players being amateurs, there's so much social distancing in place in workplaces not to mention furloughing, and working from home, I don't think gaa players are mixing with the general public to that much more of a degree than any other sportsmen.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1726 - 29/03/2021 20:25:07    2335331

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Replying To KillingFields:  "There isnt at all. Care to name actual people.
Inter county GAA is banned because the players are mixing across multiple workplaces if not working at home and then travelling as amateurs for training/matches. completely different to pros"
Are you saying your so called pros don't shop, don't have family, do they all live in a bubble? Soccer and rugby first with the government and with the media. GAA last on the list with the Game On show and with Matt Copper. At least the BBC in the North put GAA first sometimes.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2017 - 29/03/2021 23:03:57    2335338

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Replying To KillingFields:  "There isnt at all. Care to name actual people.
Inter county GAA is banned because the players are mixing across multiple workplaces if not working at home and then travelling as amateurs for training/matches. completely different to pros"
KillingFields you are right on many issues but wrong and disingenuous on this one. Choosing to skip over that semi pro soccer players who are in the work place and mixing with the public, workplace and at home every day. The argument that there are less of them does not wash. You know the multiplier 1 2 4 and so on. Calling them elite is b.s. and treating GAA players differently is wrong. The GAA players have more elitism in their pinky that semi pro soccer players and I am not anti soccer either. Also I am not saying there should not have been a ban on sports but singling out our national sports is disgusted and should be called for what it is. Discrimination.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2671 - 30/03/2021 00:13:57    2335343

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Replying To KillingFields:  "There isnt at all. Care to name actual people.
Inter county GAA is banned because the players are mixing across multiple workplaces if not working at home and then travelling as amateurs for training/matches. completely different to pros"
There has 100% been a narrative to put the GAA down. Inter county GAA players are the same elite athletes as rugby and soccer in this country, but yes I agree the GAA rightly have the sense to know professional sport in this country is very challenging to organise. As a GAA person I'm comfortable in the knowledge despite currently being banned from playing the GAA will ultimately come out of this pandemic as the strongest sporting organisation in the country.

It's currently frustrating for GAA people but we're pragmatic and know our elite athletes are no different to the standard of other sports in Ireland, it's just the GAA decide to make the right decision in regards professional contracts, and despite the current narrative the GAA will be back as strong as ever soon.

We've seen soccer problems this week and Irish rugby is now "Leinster" rugby. Leinster graduates could now dominate the other three provinces (in some cases are) and in terms of competiveness are unlikely to have a competitive match with another Irish province again.

The GAA has it's own issues of course but despite not currently playing; out of the three main sports have a brighter future ahead of them and will respond to this pandemic in a strong manner despite the negative press.

sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 30/03/2021 12:10:33    2335366

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Replying To sam1884:  "There has 100% been a narrative to put the GAA down. Inter county GAA players are the same elite athletes as rugby and soccer in this country, but yes I agree the GAA rightly have the sense to know professional sport in this country is very challenging to organise. As a GAA person I'm comfortable in the knowledge despite currently being banned from playing the GAA will ultimately come out of this pandemic as the strongest sporting organisation in the country.

It's currently frustrating for GAA people but we're pragmatic and know our elite athletes are no different to the standard of other sports in Ireland, it's just the GAA decide to make the right decision in regards professional contracts, and despite the current narrative the GAA will be back as strong as ever soon.

We've seen soccer problems this week and Irish rugby is now "Leinster" rugby. Leinster graduates could now dominate the other three provinces (in some cases are) and in terms of competiveness are unlikely to have a competitive match with another Irish province again.

The GAA has it's own issues of course but despite not currently playing; out of the three main sports have a brighter future ahead of them and will respond to this pandemic in a strong manner despite the negative press."
Ah no, there's no negative press at all. I think all the media are trying to do is educate about the dangers of the virus, surely that's a good thing. All other sporting organizations seem to have grasped that and that's probably why the GAA is mentioned so much in the media.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 30/03/2021 12:29:46    2335369

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