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This is an interesting idea from the former Roscommon goalkeeper. It would represent another means to increase intercounty competitiveness.

https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/former-rossies-keeper-curran-believes-gaa-must-embrace-idea-of-inter-county-transfers-40010867.html

omahant (USA) - Posts: 2598 - 26/01/2021 23:18:39    2329085

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Replying To omahant:  "This is an interesting idea from the former Roscommon goalkeeper. It would represent another means to increase intercounty competitiveness.

https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/former-rossies-keeper-curran-believes-gaa-must-embrace-idea-of-inter-county-transfers-40010867.html"
With Kilkenny being the only county that doesn't field a football team could start by letting the lads that want to play a bit of football declare for a neighboring county, to get things going, hurlers welcome too.

Cuhullain (Kildare) - Posts: 271 - 29/01/2021 12:53:27    2329529

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I'm in favour of it anyway.
It could make the championship more competitive, giving weaker counties the chance to improve.
It would also mean that, just like pretty much every other sport on earth,, EVERY kid in Ireland can finally dream of playing on the biggest stage.
Transfers in other sports have also proven to have no effect on the support those teams get.

I think it would be very difficult to implement however.
Would a fella from wexford transfer to donegal for example? How would that work unless the gaa became professional?

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1711 - 29/01/2021 13:14:18    2329532

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Replying To Cuhullain:  "With Kilkenny being the only county that doesn't field a football team could start by letting the lads that want to play a bit of football declare for a neighboring county, to get things going, hurlers welcome too."
Kilkenny do field a county football team.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2477 - 29/01/2021 13:47:40    2329535

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I'm all for intercounty transfers if there is some allegiance to the county a player transfers to. At the moment players can transfer under the parent rule and if they live in a particular county. I think its OK to use the grandparent rule or maybe even the county of your wife. It would give weaker counties in particular a higher playing field and also give some players that won't make their own county teams a chance to play intercounty football.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3676 - 29/01/2021 14:10:13    2329540

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Why not I think it could work Let's say every county names a panel of 40 players at the beginning of the season al those left out are free to join a neighbouring county but must stay with that county for a minimum of two yrs after the two yrs their own county can ask them on to the county panel if they so wish .

dubarra (Wicklow) - Posts: 541 - 29/01/2021 14:24:30    2329545

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "Kilkenny do field a county football team."
Not in the National League or All Ireland championship?

hopballref (Galway) - Posts: 377 - 29/01/2021 14:28:23    2329546

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but on the other hand a player from a weaker county could opt to transfer to a stronger county, in the hope of success, instead of trying to balance up it could actually make weaker teams weaker. In club football the transfers inter club you usually see are from Junior clubs to Senior not the other way round.

Rosineri1 (UK) - Posts: 2099 - 29/01/2021 15:06:34    2329555

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "I'm all for intercounty transfers if there is some allegiance to the county a player transfers to. At the moment players can transfer under the parent rule and if they live in a particular county. I think its OK to use the grandparent rule or maybe even the county of your wife. It would give weaker counties in particular a higher playing field and also give some players that won't make their own county teams a chance to play intercounty football."
If you're chatting to any single lads on the Dublin panel, will ya tell them that there's some lovely girls here in Galway? Good man.

streaker (Galway) - Posts: 497 - 29/01/2021 17:11:26    2329581

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A good idea if maybe it was capped at 3 or 4 outside players per county allowed on the panel and using parentage rule as well. It would give lads a chance to play county football without the home grown lads on the panel being shown the door. However if was a free for all just imagine....McManus /Clifford going to dublin, TJ Reid/ joe canning to limerick.

superdub (Dublin) - Posts: 392 - 29/01/2021 21:14:49    2329624

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Lads GAA is not soccer, transfers should only be allowed if a player moves to that county. It would be open to abuse if what Shane Curran wants is allowed.

DUALSUPPORT (Limerick) - Posts: 1038 - 29/01/2021 21:29:42    2329628

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Replying To hopballref:  "
Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "Kilkenny do field a county football team."
Not in the National League or All Ireland championship?"
12 counties contested the 2019 All-Ireland Senior Hurling Championship, does that mean the other 20 counties in Ireland do not have hurling teams?

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2477 - 29/01/2021 21:53:54    2329633

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Replying To superdub:  "A good idea if maybe it was capped at 3 or 4 outside players per county allowed on the panel and using parentage rule as well. It would give lads a chance to play county football without the home grown lads on the panel being shown the door. However if was a free for all just imagine....McManus /Clifford going to dublin, TJ Reid/ joe canning to limerick."
True,, it would have to be regulated some way,,,
But I firmly believe that every child who plays gaelic games should have the opportunity to play on the biggest stage,, regardless of what county they're from.
Its only fair imo and I think it would help to promote both codes,, especially hurling,, in weaker counties.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1711 - 29/01/2021 22:02:57    2329634

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Replying To Rosineri1:  "but on the other hand a player from a weaker county could opt to transfer to a stronger county, in the hope of success, instead of trying to balance up it could actually make weaker teams weaker. In club football the transfers inter club you usually see are from Junior clubs to Senior not the other way round."
If this idea has any merit it could only be if a player was allowed transfer to a division lower than their own native county participates in I.e a player from a division 1 team could transfer to a division 2, 3, or 4 team. But a transfer the other way ---- say from a division 4 team to a division 1 team -- would need to be ruled out.

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1903 - 29/01/2021 22:07:30    2329635

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Well if a county want a player badly enough and the players wants to go they can get him a job in the county and if he moves there he is entitled to play. Probably the greatest success was Shay Fahy and Larry Tompkins. Fahy was working in Cork but Niall Cahalane who met Larry in NY encouraged him to come to Cork and what a move it was.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3676 - 29/01/2021 23:51:18    2329640

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I think it should be only on parents birth place rule, you can't have players jumping ship just for the sake of it ie seanie johnston.
Young Mullins tried it with Donegal as his mother was from there.

Not sure on numbers but with more people past and present heading to dublin for work you have players who's parents hailed from all over ireland to the capital and now and in the future you had/will have these lads playing for dublin.

There our i would imagine dozens of players living in the capital who could be good enough for county panels.

Yourjoking (USA) - Posts: 705 - 30/01/2021 11:14:36    2329669

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "
Replying To hopballref:  "[quote=Cockney_Cat:  "Kilkenny do field a county football team."
Not in the National League or All Ireland championship?"
12 counties contested the 2019 All-Ireland Senior Hurling Championship, does that mean the other 20 counties in Ireland do not have hurling teams?"]No but the other counties play in the national competitions in hurling. Can you tell us who where and when the killkenny football team last played.
Are you mixing them up with kildare

ulsterrules (Donegal) - Posts: 259 - 30/01/2021 11:25:04    2329674

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "
Replying To hopballref:  "[quote=Cockney_Cat:  "Kilkenny do field a county football team."
Not in the National League or All Ireland championship?"
12 counties contested the 2019 All-Ireland Senior Hurling Championship, does that mean the other 20 counties in Ireland do not have hurling teams?"]I know what you ré saying Cockney but all the counties play hurling I. e. Joe McDonagh Christy Ring Lory Maher cups etc. Kilkenny are not playing football at the moment at adult level. A couple of years ago they were playing div 4 league but withdrew. Sometimes their minor footballers enter Leinster but at present Kilkenny do Not play football at adult level.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3676 - 30/01/2021 12:15:35    2329683

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Replying To Yourjoking:  "I think it should be only on parents birth place rule, you can't have players jumping ship just for the sake of it ie seanie johnston.
Young Mullins tried it with Donegal as his mother was from there.

Not sure on numbers but with more people past and present heading to dublin for work you have players who's parents hailed from all over ireland to the capital and now and in the future you had/will have these lads playing for dublin.

There our i would imagine dozens of players living in the capital who could be good enough for county panels."
Your Joking the parent rule is in place for a longtime and if you live in a county you can play for them also. Not sure is Nathan Mullins Mom from Donegal but he did grow up there as Brian (his Dad) was teaching up in Donegal or Derry for years.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3676 - 30/01/2021 12:20:58    2329684

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The parentage rule is grand. Conor Cox with Roscommon, lots of other examples.
Moving ala Johnston to Kildare with no connection to a County shouldn't be considered.

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2763 - 30/01/2021 12:24:10    2329686

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