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Great idea and long overdue. The stadium is showing it's age now and needs a revamp (the concourse level is brutal) Croke Park is miles behind similar stadiums in Europe and light-years behind what they have in the US and Canada. Adler (Monaghan) - Posts: 754 - 21/01/2021 17:27:42 2328359 Link
Replying To Joxer: "Well you're right. But as our venue I don't think the DCB should allow provincial games or AI series games not involving Dublin to be played at our home ground. Those games are just messing up our pitch. €71m is a huge investment for a museum and to extend some conference rooms. I presume there's a lot more to it but that money would go a long way elsewhere to upgrade provincial grounds." Jesus Joxer how's Dublin County Board going to raise €71 million for this redevelopment of the corporate facilities of their home ground? Oh wait a minute..... Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 21/01/2021 17:56:05 2328362 Link
Replying To Greengrass: "Jesus Joxer how's Dublin County Board going to raise €71 million for this redevelopment of the corporate facilities of their home ground? Oh wait a minute....." Ah I don't know lad. We've been bled dry over the years, the fat cows at HQ have been milking us. Sure if we brought 50,000 to each of 3 big games a year at €40 a ticket then that's a handy €6m for the updating of the museum, times a six in a row and there's half the budget for the whole project. Throw in the super 8s and Leinster championship and we must have paid for a national gallery as well as a museum. Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 21/01/2021 19:00:37 2328372 Link
Replying To Joxer: "Well when you can produce evidence of the DCB dictating to the Leinster Council and the other Leinster counties where Dublin play their fixtures then please ask the admins to make your post a sticky. I suppose Leinster counties asking for fixture venues to be reversed to Croke Park was the poor aul Dubs fault as well. Always the villains." People will always be jealous of success, we won our second all-Ireland in 45 years and knifes were out straight away, ye have the best football team in the history of the gaa, this was done by the hard work of Dublin gaa, hopefully ye can improve your hurling as well, Croke Park is a money maker outside of matches, well done to the gaa, looking at the bigger picture. cityman73 (Limerick) - Posts: 775 - 21/01/2021 19:04:16 2328373 Link
Replying To cityman73: "People will always be jealous of success, we won our second all-Ireland in 45 years and knifes were out straight away, ye have the best football team in the history of the gaa, this was done by the hard work of Dublin gaa, hopefully ye can improve your hurling as well, Croke Park is a money maker outside of matches, well done to the gaa, looking at the bigger picture." Everything is rosy so? gahfan (Wexford) - Posts: 636 - 21/01/2021 20:20:55 2328387 Link
Maybe they should start by finishing the thing properly and go and put seats on the hill jackmeyhoffer (USA) - Posts: 148 - 22/01/2021 00:08:17 2328417 Link
Replying To Joxer: "Ah I don't know lad. We've been bled dry over the years, the fat cows at HQ have been milking us. Sure if we brought 50,000 to each of 3 big games a year at €40 a ticket then that's a handy €6m for the updating of the museum, times a six in a row and there's half the budget for the whole project. Throw in the super 8s and Leinster championship and we must have paid for a national gallery as well as a museum." Don't tell me Joxer that you're complaining about having to pay in to a stadium that's been given to you for nothing. Do ye even pay to have the grass cut? Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 22/01/2021 01:00:48 2328420 Link
croke park is probably the only stadium in the country which washes its own face in terms of what it costs to run it vs the income it generates,not just on match-day but throughout the year on conferences. perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 22/01/2021 09:58:02 2328435 Link
Replying To jackmeyhoffer: "Maybe they should start by finishing the thing properly and go and put seats on the hill" They did that for the soccer internationals. Much prefer the Hill as it is. Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 22/01/2021 10:01:21 2328439 Link
Replying To gahfan: "Everything is rosy so?" Yea everything is rosy cheers superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 22/01/2021 10:25:00 2328452 Link
Replying To perfect10: "croke park is probably the only stadium in the country which washes its own face in terms of what it costs to run it vs the income it generates,not just on match-day but throughout the year on conferences." Its the only GAA stadium. Aviva is the same. Always conferences, meetings, events on there KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3510 - 22/01/2021 15:03:26 2328526 Link
Replying To KillingFields: "Its the only GAA stadium. Aviva is the same. Always conferences, meetings, events on there" Has Thomond Park got conference facilities? Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 22/01/2021 19:12:06 2328567 Link
Replying To Greengrass: "Has Thomond Park got conference facilities?" Yes between the suites/corporate boxes. The thomond suite can cater to several hundred people Also has dugout in basement to cater for events. The supporters club and Bohs bars are on other side of ground from boxes but also can he used for events Munster rugby manage all bars on their own without any agencies etc with exception of the shannon club house where they have Russell's bar doing the bar and food. KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3510 - 22/01/2021 20:04:27 2328585 Link
Its the way of the world now, but this redevelopment is very poor timing. It will take years to build back what we had and there is only so many Museums people want to see, Corporate events? Cant see it being a roaring success myself, things have changed. This old model wont work, you need to build vibrant games that people love to play and watch not a post Covid white elephant. By all means upgrade Croke park but 71 million!? It needs to go on facilites and upgrading of existing grounds and education/development, the rest will folliw when we can afford it and need it but not now. arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4896 - 22/01/2021 21:56:08 2328610 Link
Replying To arock: "Its the way of the world now, but this redevelopment is very poor timing. It will take years to build back what we had and there is only so many Museums people want to see, Corporate events? Cant see it being a roaring success myself, things have changed. This old model wont work, you need to build vibrant games that people love to play and watch not a post Covid white elephant. By all means upgrade Croke park but 71 million!? It needs to go on facilites and upgrading of existing grounds and education/development, the rest will folliw when we can afford it and need it but not now." Im doing a event management course at moment just to build on what ive already been doing in work and the lecturers dont think it will take years at all to build back what we had. They think next winter/summer 2022 will be huge with the winter for corporate events while it will be summer 2022 before large concerts etc are back. It wont be a while elephant at all. Yes other stadiums need to be upgraded but that as much needs to be done by county boards and private money as well. KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3510 - 23/01/2021 13:55:22 2328642 Link
I know this is heresy, but I always thought Croke Park a bit soulless unless it's a full house. Even 40k people can appear lost in it. I was at the Celtic soccer ground years ago - scrappy enough stadium tbh, but it had great atmosphere - low roof echoed crowd noise and you were close to the pitch. Easy to get good atmosphere there. I also think they should roof it. Was in Dallas Cowboys stadium years ago, amazing. Croke Park guys need to study a few cutting edge stadiums and plagiarise them. Also it looks a bit ugly from outside. New proper Casement Park design looks great. Anyway, I wish it well and look forward to seeing it done. essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 24/01/2021 23:58:56 2328839 Link
Replying To jackmeyhoffer: "Maybe they should start by finishing the thing properly and go and put seats on the hill" Absolutely It would be one of the greatest stadiums in World if they did that, and there's nothing stopping them with todays modern engineering. Hill looks tiny , outdated , and completely out of sync with the stadium structure, BeJasus (UK) - Posts: 383 - 25/01/2021 10:20:29 2328857 Link
Replying To essmac: "I know this is heresy, but I always thought Croke Park a bit soulless unless it's a full house. Even 40k people can appear lost in it. I was at the Celtic soccer ground years ago - scrappy enough stadium tbh, but it had great atmosphere - low roof echoed crowd noise and you were close to the pitch. Easy to get good atmosphere there. I also think they should roof it. Was in Dallas Cowboys stadium years ago, amazing. Croke Park guys need to study a few cutting edge stadiums and plagiarise them. Also it looks a bit ugly from outside. New proper Casement Park design looks great. Anyway, I wish it well and look forward to seeing it done." Dallas Cowboys stadium cost well over a billion. Is a roof really needed when its primarily used in spring/summer and the cost needed to get hill 16 to the level of the other stands and then putting a roof would be in the hundreds of millions KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3510 - 25/01/2021 10:58:54 2328865 Link
A roof on Croke Park will likely be built in the medium to long term. This might sound mad but in another 25-30 years it's likely the current stadium will be long past it's sell by date. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11231 - 25/01/2021 18:35:24 2328915 Link
Replying To yew_tree: "A roof on Croke Park will likely be built in the medium to long term. This might sound mad but in another 25-30 years it's likely the current stadium will be long past it's sell by date." A roof isnt that likely to be built yes the current stadium will need to be redeveloped/lot work done in 25-30 years but the size of stadium means its unlikely and with land behind the stand which would be needed to be purchased to turn hill 16 into similar stands as the other 3. KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3510 - 25/01/2021 20:29:05 2328928 Link