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Yes that's just one instance but you're suggesting these are major problems in today's game and like these are new instances that have never been part of the game up until now. That's not the case. Your points are not valid. catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 17/01/2021 22:34:02 2327860 Link 0 |
In what decade did players throw the ball instead of hanpassing it? Anyway to say problems with the game were always there is hardly very helpful. There are problems with the game here and now that need to be addressed. Highlighting past ills of the game isn't going to solve anything. gahfan (Wexford) - Posts: 636 - 18/01/2021 12:46:23 2327914 Link 0 |
All of the instances you suggest with the possible exception of short passing have always existed. You're making out these are new to the game and they are not. That's the point which you seem to be missing. There are issues that could be addressed as in pretty much every sport but these aren't new. catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 18/01/2021 17:40:00 2327973 Link 0 |
Have to say lads Im very much a fan of the big ball, although there are some fine hurling clubs in Meath and hurling certainly is growing particularly in the south of the county. A great sport and a shame there isnt a showcase team in north-Leinster or south-Ulster to follow. It just isn't big in the area sadly. Young_gael (Meath) - Posts: 587 - 18/01/2021 18:35:07 2327978 Link 3 |
Apologies to the posters who are expecting to read about the great Brian Cody but I have to reply to this guy. Coincidentally, I watched the All Ireland back yesterday. The reason I watched it back is because of a separate thread on here called "Throwing the Sliotar". What you are saying is utter rubbish!! Have you ever played the game? You have a problem with hand passing, athleticism, height, build and passing. What would you do about all the negatives in the game. Don't you think all the nay sayers ex County Columnists would have picked up on all Limericks illegal hand passes? I posted on that other thread today also. Maybe have a look at it. But I can categorically tell you are incorrect with your illegal hand pass campaign. And yes players are coached on how to perfect extremely quick hand passes! Seeking_silver (Limerick) - Posts: 411 - 18/01/2021 23:14:16 2328011 Link 0 |
It's as if you're trying to get me to change my view that I don't like the way hurling is currently being played. Then you call me a spoofer. On a more positive note please keep brian cody at the helm, i've never enjoyed an off season so much. gahfan (Wexford) - Posts: 636 - 19/01/2021 08:29:40 2328023 Link 0 |
I don't particularly care if you change your view it's more the daft reasons you are suggesting for that view and the implication that these are somehow new or indeed that there is an extraordinary high number of instances where players are throwing the sliotar. You're wrong plain and simple.
catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 19/01/2021 11:17:41 2328042 Link 0 |
And your assessment of the game of hurling at the moment?
gahfan (Wexford) - Posts: 636 - 19/01/2021 12:36:34 2328053 Link 0 |
The game is to open. To many scores and no man Marking. Give me playing on the edge any day..
Newyorkkat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 127 - 19/01/2021 13:28:50 2328060 Link 0 |
There game today has players every bit as skilful as ever to play the game. Today's players are generally more athletic and strong but that doesn't impact the game in a negative way as far as I'm concerned. catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 19/01/2021 13:35:40 2328066 Link 0 |
I am 70 years old and they were complaining 'that the hurling they are playing now is not as good as it was long ago', when I was was a small boy. We all tend to hanker for the glories of yester year. I read somewhere that in 1897 the Kilfinane boys were afraid that Tullaroan would beat them in that years final so some bright spark came with a new tactic called Hook and Block. It was thought, at that time, that it would ruin the game- it did not and those skills are a splendid part of the game now. When Mackey was in his heyday in the thirties a sports writer of the day claimed Limerick were playing too much combination hurling and he hankered after 'the great forward rushes of the past' (he would have loved the 'push over try' goal in 73). We then went to the mid nineties and people were saying Griffin and Loughnane were ruining the game with their mad training regimes, only for a rising Cork team to be lambasted a few years later for short puck outs and too much retaining of possession. The fact is nothing stays the same and everything has its day. As far as I am concerned I am utterly amazed at some of the ball skills displayed by current day players, their speed, athleticism, intelligence and their overall high level of performance are a sight to behold.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4319 - 19/01/2021 15:23:22 2328087 Link 0 |
Best GAA Manager ever id say I would be a real shame if things ever tuned sour in KK but we all know its a result based business hope he knows when his time is up
clooney (Clare) - Posts: 887 - 19/01/2021 16:06:04 2328097 Link 0 |
Great post.
Seeking_silver (Limerick) - Posts: 411 - 19/01/2021 18:09:42 2328121 Link 0 |
It is an amazing achievement to manage your county for so long but tbh I think that Cody loves the job so much he might be lost without it. Yes we can praise his longevity but the guy is probably dreading the day he's replaced. Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1706 - 19/01/2021 20:09:09 2328132 Link 0 |
Colin Fennelly taking a year out. Paul Murphy and Ger Aylward retiring. Would these players have stayed out if there was a new voice. FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2763 - 19/01/2021 22:02:51 2328150 Link 0 |
As a Wexford supporter I take a close interest in Kilkennys squad! Ger Aylward hasnt been the same player since the injuries a few years ago. Colin Fennelly also isnt the same rampaging presence who destroyed us with goals years ago and hasnt been for the last few years. Paul Murphy likewise had his best years more than 5 years ago. I dont think they wouldve been kept on by a new voice anyway.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11843 - 20/01/2021 10:49:25 2328176 Link 0 |
I think your right on two fronts, Cody as we know is a ruthless manager, and I think, Ger Aylward, and Fennelly and even Murphy were picking up vibes that they were not going to feature this year and got their "oar" in first if you know what I mean. I know we are in unprecedented times, but I cannot remember a Kilkenny player taking time out before (I know someone will come on and tell me of one or two but in recent years "times outs" are not a Kilkenny thing that i read about anyway...Cody dispensed with Philly Larkin, Eamon Kennedy (man of the match in 2000 against us) and other notable names along the way, Charlie Carter too there was "in and out" and "whats the story" etc. around him that time too...I do think the end game for Cody has probably arrived, he is being left in situ which is fair enough if thats what the County Board want, but while not betting man, ide say alot of these opt outs and there will be more to follow are connected to Cody staying on....Shefflin and Eddie Brenan are probably loyal to Cody and wont present for the managers job until he says he is going himself...thats my tuppence on it..some hurlers going there that would get on most county team..pity to see...Ger Aylward only 28...
Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 20/01/2021 11:29:03 2328182 Link 0 |
Cody has done the next manager a great favor by staying on a few years after his last All Ireland win. The talent isn't there right now and if a new manager came in say in '16 or '17 they would have been under severe pressure to win with a team that isn't a top 4 team. Now when the next manager does come in the supporters will probably a bit more understanding. I know Cody isn't thinking like this, He is surely trying to win the 2021 All Ireland that's what made him great the never give in attitude. gatha (Kilkenny) - Posts: 318 - 20/01/2021 12:41:27 2328195 Link 0 |
Over 20 years of of training sessions, attending meetings, dealing with the press, travelling to matches, coaching, managing, giving talks, award ceremonies, school/hospital/corporate events etc etc, book launches, charity events...and he had a day job of teaching at one stage. Remarkable. Actually I think it's Mrs Cody deserves the accolades Maroonatic (Galway) - Posts: 1060 - 20/01/2021 15:34:15 2328226 Link 0 |
Ah yes of course. A good Wexford woman!
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11843 - 20/01/2021 15:46:30 2328228 Link 0 |