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The last thing anyone wants is to slow up the game and for the ref to be constantly blowing for that. It would drive everyone mad. Refs don't want to blow for that either. What possibly should be trialed is a maximum of 1 hand pass and then strike, meaning the hand pass would only be used to get out of trouble. hopballref (Galway) - Posts: 303 - 14/01/2021 16:48:55 2327426 Link 0 |
Refs need to penalise players consistenly fouling too. Instead we have players getting end of year awards. gahfan (Wexford) - Posts: 524 - 14/01/2021 19:55:39 2327466 Link 0 |
So the cleanest way to police/ensure a legal handpass seems to be - to only allow it off the hurl - i.e. hand to hurl to palmed pass - my 2nd option at this thread's beginning. This restriction would likely lessen the handpass use frequency or shorten their sequences - killing two birds with one stone ! Now for football - what can be done ? omahant (USA) - Posts: 1867 - 14/01/2021 23:31:25 2327497 Link 0 |
It is not always possible to be able to hand pass off the hurl. It would end up in a load of shemozzles as players would end up just having to drop the ball if they cant get the hand pass away. Teams would put huge focus on bundling up the player so he/she can't get a quick hand pass away which is possible in today's game. There are a few people on this thread who obviously don't or never have played the game. hopballref (Galway) - Posts: 303 - 15/01/2021 10:29:36 2327520 Link 1 |
It's a good job we have you to sort these problems out for us.
lionofludesch (Down) - Posts: 408 - 15/01/2021 11:30:32 2327528 Link 0 |
Maybe players would think twice about lifting the ball to hand in a ruck if they couldn't easily handpass it away then. The problem with rucks is that once a player gets possession they can easily handpass the ball away. Thats why we have so many of them now. I would argue that less handpassing would mean less rucks and shemozzles and maybe even some ground hurling to get the ball into space. A simple solution might be that you cant handpass the ball if you received one. ZUL10 (Clare) - Posts: 610 - 15/01/2021 11:56:50 2327534 Link 1 |
Maybe players would also think twice about lifting the ball if you were allowed to pull on it when its there.I've a funny feeling though that todays players and referees would lose their life at the mere thought of it or sound of it
UtahBlaine (Galway) - Posts: 63 - 15/01/2021 21:44:14 2327650 Link 0 |
Agree on the last point, I think Limerick, especially players like Lynch are singled out for throwing where as most of the time they are just skilfully doing it very quickly with minimal space between the ball and hand, but enough to be legal. The times they've been pulled for it were times where it made no sense for them to throw it i.e not under physical pressure. Anyone who plays the game knows it's not that hard to handpass and it's almost an unnatural feeling to throw the ball. Why then would a player under no pressure throw the ball 5 yards? The answer is they're not..
blackspot91 (Limerick) - Posts: 1017 - 18/01/2021 02:46:00 2327870 Link 0 |
I played the game for many years but I dont buy this. Your basically saying that they are so good at it we cant tell the difference between a throw and a legal pass. Are you telling me there are no players taking advantage of this? The problem is we cant tell the difference and some players are 100% taking advantage.
ZUL10 (Clare) - Posts: 610 - 18/01/2021 10:50:47 2327890 Link 0 |
It's a fair point, I recently watched the Galway v Clare All Ireland semi final from 1995, and the standard was not good at all. Some of the misses on both sides were awful (particularly Galway), aimless driving of the ball up the field to nobody in particular, and it's amazing to see lads actually staying in their positions for the duration of the game. If you were a corner forward back then, you could literally go the entire game without touching the ball.
gilly1910 (Galway) - Posts: 109 - 18/01/2021 11:40:27 2327900 Link 0 |
Problem there is it might encourage managers to get even more defensive.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 1266 - 18/01/2021 13:26:43 2327920 Link 0 |