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Should The Fisted Goal Be Abolished.?

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Replying To avonali:  "Look Mesamis, if Dublin kicked those goals at close range yesterday you'd have clowns arguing that only shots from 10metres out ought to be counted as goals."
Indeed :-)

Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 20/12/2020 20:27:00    2324803

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I hate the palmed goal myself but I like the fisted goals. Some palmed goals are kind of scooped in (not yesterday's may I add) Con s fisted goal though was a real gem.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3678 - 20/12/2020 20:49:02    2324812

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Replying To Rolo2010:  "It can be abolished. The game is called football. All goals should be scored with the foot."
You might tell your colleagues about using the foot..... why should the fisted goal be abolished? it takes skill to open a team up like that and teamwork and unselfishness to work a palmed goal. A fisted goal is a great skill in the game too. It adds excitement, something Gaelic football definitely requires

GalwaysFinest (Galway) - Posts: 190 - 20/12/2020 21:10:17    2324824

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Replying To Canuck:  "The fisted pass was a distinct separation from the ball with striking action of the fist. One goal yesterday was pushed with both hands and the other was palmed. Palming a legal change (bad one) made but would not be allowed if fisting was the rule. The pushing of the ball a form of throwing definitely illegal. The GAA thought they were being smart by allowing these changes but in fact have contributed to some of the crap we are seeing into days football and hurling."
You should have another look at the two goals. First might have been palmed but legal, second goal was clearly punched, another words fisted.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2017 - 20/12/2020 21:13:32    2324826

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Replying To Rolo2010:  "It can be abolished. The game is called football. All goals should be scored with the foot."
Just said exactly this earlier, game is called football, not fist ball.

GormlaighG (Mayo) - Posts: 77 - 20/12/2020 21:17:59    2324830

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Replying To essmac:  "I'd go further and ban all scores taken by the hand, closed fist or open palm, ban them all. Always seems like a cop out. I also see a lot of so-called hand passes that look suspiciously like a throw ball; and I've lost count of the amount of times players take 6, 7, 8 steps without playing the ball.

Look, I've nothing at all against Olympic handball or Rugby league, but I'd like Gaelic football to retain its core skills (the clue is in the name: "football" ) ..."
Agree about the steps. Players consistently breaking the tackle with steps or being fouled on step 7 when the defender has no option.

Malonemagic (Laois) - Posts: 768 - 20/12/2020 21:32:23    2324840

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Replying To Gaa Fan:  "I agree. The name of the game is "Football". All scores, points and goals, should result from kicked balls."
If the rules of the game are to be defined by it's name "football" as you suggest then catching or handling the ball also illegal.

sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 686 - 20/12/2020 21:36:38    2324846

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Replying To arock:  "No problem with it at all, just seems to be a problem/issue because Dublin got two."
No arock that is not true. Please don't try make it an anti Dublin sentiment. I don't care what team does it pushing the ball into the net it is ugly. There is more hype about black cards, yellow cards and red cards than preserving the fundamentals of the game. "foot " "ball". This type of a play is more suitable for the game played in a swimming pool.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2671 - 20/12/2020 21:40:33    2324850

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I think there has been too many experimentation and rules changes in Gaelic football the last 5 or 6 years, the game should be left alone for a while because it's starting to become over complicated and looking nothing like the game I grew up playing.

DUALSUPPORT (Limerick) - Posts: 1038 - 20/12/2020 21:42:06    2324851

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "I hate the palmed goal myself but I like the fisted goals. Some palmed goals are kind of scooped in (not yesterday's may I add) Con s fisted goal though was a real gem."
Aye it's the palmed goals that are in hands for that millisecond longer than fisted goals.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2017 - 20/12/2020 21:53:09    2324858

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Replying To DUALSUPPORT:  "I think there has been too many experimentation and rules changes in Gaelic football the last 5 or 6 years, the game should be left alone for a while because it's starting to become over complicated and looking nothing like the game I grew up playing."
Kind of agree with you but before you stop messing with it roll it back first because it looks nothing like the game I grew up with.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2671 - 20/12/2020 21:59:21    2324861

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Replying To DUALSUPPORT:  "I think there has been too many experimentation and rules changes in Gaelic football the last 5 or 6 years, the game should be left alone for a while because it's starting to become over complicated and looking nothing like the game I grew up playing."
Kind of agree with you but before you stop messing with it roll it back first because it looks nothing like the game I grew up with.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2671 - 20/12/2020 22:03:24    2324865

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Don't tell me Dublin have a volleyball coach too

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2386 - 20/12/2020 22:11:16    2324870

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Replying To GormlaighG:  "Just said exactly this earlier, game is called football, not fist ball."
But look at Rugby football or American football where players never kick the ball, I wouldn't get hung up on the "foot" ball. They need to look. at the fist pass though. Repeated sequences of lateral or backwards handpassing are boring to watch.

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1974 - 20/12/2020 22:13:18    2324872

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Replying To Saynothing:  "Aye it's the palmed goals that are in hands for that millisecond longer than fisted goals."
Its the palmed goals I was talking about and I wasn't even thinking about yesterdays game, some of the goals we have got ourselves are palmed in and I hate them eg Ryans goal against the Dubs in 2014, those goals Dublin got yesterday were on the better side of the argument, Rocks though palmed in was well taken and Cons was punched in. I don't mind the fisted goal so much but the palmed in goal were as you say it's caught for a mili-second and then kind of thrown in is rubbish in my opinion.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2758 - 20/12/2020 22:19:06    2324873

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ime not taking time to read previous replies, but YES, these fisted, punted, palmed, call them what you like are a shocking bllight on the game, people will argue where a high ball comes into the square and a forward gets a fist to it and it goes in, maybe it is not as bad looking at these punted/palmed/fisted efforts...the game is called football, ALL scores should be from the foot, I am saying this long before yesterdays game which Mayo would have won by a point in I had my way regarding these terrible looking scores that are blighting the game in recent years....

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 20/12/2020 22:20:09    2324874

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it should be done away with, least skillful way to score, yet biggest reward. even fisting over the bar should be done away with. it's called football, reduce down hand pass in that if you receive a hand pass you can't give a hand pass away.

Brian_Coyote (Antrim) - Posts: 346 - 20/12/2020 22:38:51    2324888

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A few of the rules added in recent years definitely get rid of but I've no issue with scoring with the fist.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 20/12/2020 23:13:37    2324902

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I think it should be abolished. In Hurling you have to score with the hurl why is football different. I would say it is harder to score with a hurl then your foot when you are being challenged.

gatha (Kilkenny) - Posts: 318 - 20/12/2020 23:15:39    2324904

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Replying To avonali:  "But look at Rugby football or American football where players never kick the ball, I wouldn't get hung up on the "foot" ball. They need to look. at the fist pass though. Repeated sequences of lateral or backwards handpassing are boring to watch."
Soccer is called football but the sideline is thrown in by hand and the head is also used.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3678 - 20/12/2020 23:33:01    2324916

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