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Should The Fisted Goal Be Abolished.?

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Its preventing teams from playing a kicking game , an art which is dying by the year..

You only see likes of Mayo and Kerry implementing it in their game.

Gaelic football is looking more and more like a basketball match these days.

BeJasus (UK) - Posts: 383 - 20/12/2020 11:42:08    2324474

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Replying To BeJasus:  "Its preventing teams from playing a kicking game , an art which is dying by the year..

You only see likes of Mayo and Kerry implementing it in their game.

Gaelic football is looking more and more like a basketball match these days."
I'd go further and ban all scores taken by the hand, closed fist or open palm, ban them all. Always seems like a cop out. I also see a lot of so-called hand passes that look suspiciously like a throw ball; and I've lost count of the amount of times players take 6, 7, 8 steps without playing the ball.

Look, I've nothing at all against Olympic handball or Rugby league, but I'd like Gaelic football to retain its core skills (the clue is in the name: "football" ) ...

essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 20/12/2020 12:52:11    2324515

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Replying To BeJasus:  "Its preventing teams from playing a kicking game , an art which is dying by the year..

You only see likes of Mayo and Kerry implementing it in their game.

Gaelic football is looking more and more like a basketball match these days."
You obviously weren't around for the 70s and 80s .

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1974 - 20/12/2020 14:26:34    2324574

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The fisted pass was a distinct separation from the ball with striking action of the fist. One goal yesterday was pushed with both hands and the other was palmed. Palming a legal change (bad one) made but would not be allowed if fisting was the rule. The pushing of the ball a form of throwing definitely illegal. The GAA thought they were being smart by allowing these changes but in fact have contributed to some of the crap we are seeing into days football and hurling.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2671 - 20/12/2020 16:09:51    2324641

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A fisted goal from a high ball can be a thing of beauty, I'd keep that, but the current trend of more or less pushing the ball into an empty net is a load of boll*cks.

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 20/12/2020 16:58:46    2324661

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Replying To essmac:  "I'd go further and ban all scores taken by the hand, closed fist or open palm, ban them all. Always seems like a cop out. I also see a lot of so-called hand passes that look suspiciously like a throw ball; and I've lost count of the amount of times players take 6, 7, 8 steps without playing the ball.

Look, I've nothing at all against Olympic handball or Rugby league, but I'd like Gaelic football to retain its core skills (the clue is in the name: "football" ) ..."
agreed 100%, I hate that palmed in goal, it's bloody volleyball not football.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2758 - 20/12/2020 17:08:17    2324668

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Replying To essmac:  "I'd go further and ban all scores taken by the hand, closed fist or open palm, ban them all. Always seems like a cop out. I also see a lot of so-called hand passes that look suspiciously like a throw ball; and I've lost count of the amount of times players take 6, 7, 8 steps without playing the ball.

Look, I've nothing at all against Olympic handball or Rugby league, but I'd like Gaelic football to retain its core skills (the clue is in the name: "football" ) ..."
I agree. The name of the game is "Football". All scores, points and goals, should result from kicked balls.

Gaa Fan (USA) - Posts: 749 - 20/12/2020 17:09:52    2324669

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We need to get rid of the mark first it's nonsense to get a free just for catching the ball.
The goals yesterday were OK for me rock's you could make an argument for changing rules for but Callaghans goals was excellent

tom84 (Cavan) - Posts: 334 - 20/12/2020 17:26:37    2324677

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No.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2181 - 20/12/2020 17:33:18    2324680

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it shouldn't be abolished. nobody loves to see a palmed goal but the build up play to get them into that position is excellent to watch. its down to teams to figure out how to be not opened up and dont be vulnerable to the overlap. the dubs do it so well and the unselfishness is the reason they are so good.
Con's fisted goal was sheer class.
Damien Comer from Galway another great man to get a fisted goal. Its a great skill, you cant get rid of it.
Palmed goals arent as pretty to watch as a kicked goal but you cant abolish it.

GalwaysFinest (Galway) - Posts: 190 - 20/12/2020 18:09:10    2324710

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No problem with it at all, just seems to be a problem/issue because Dublin got two.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4898 - 20/12/2020 18:10:49    2324711

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Yes I agree, and get rid of that feckin mark!

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8597 - 20/12/2020 18:14:31    2324718

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Ok with fisted goal, but hate the palm goal, some of them even look thrown in when using the palm, a rule I would get rid of fisting over the bar

DuhallowRed (Cork) - Posts: 269 - 20/12/2020 18:27:20    2324726

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Its supposed to be football and there should be no fisted goals. Not long since one could throw the ball into the net -it was then called hand passing the ball!. Think the mark does nothing except to slow the game . All this back passing, fisting the ball around is difficult to watch. Nobody should be allowed to pass the ball back towards their own goals inside their own half.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 20/12/2020 18:44:21    2324734

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You can't fist a goal from a fist pass.

You can't pass backwards from the 30.

You can't pass backwards from the 45.

You can't pass backwards from the midfield line.

All kickouts must pass the 40. How has this not been brought in before now?

No marks. Ever.

We could look at not giving 18 times the funding to the largest richest population in the country but then again that would make us bitter culchies who don't work hard enough and don't have a winning mentality.

Daith (Kildare) - Posts: 1171 - 20/12/2020 18:49:56    2324737

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I've absolutely no issue with fisted goals whatsoever

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1731 - 20/12/2020 18:59:44    2324744

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Replying To Canuck:  "The fisted pass was a distinct separation from the ball with striking action of the fist. One goal yesterday was pushed with both hands and the other was palmed. Palming a legal change (bad one) made but would not be allowed if fisting was the rule. The pushing of the ball a form of throwing definitely illegal. The GAA thought they were being smart by allowing these changes but in fact have contributed to some of the crap we are seeing into days football and hurling."
What are you on about yesterday?

Con clearly punched the ball into the net yesterday.

There was a clear striking action for Rock's goal as well.

People might not like them but let's not make things up.

I understand the argument against some goals being palmed in and they are nearly thrown but that accusation could not be labelled at either goal yesterday. Clear striking action for both.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 20/12/2020 19:54:42    2324778

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Replying To MesAmis:  "What are you on about yesterday?

Con clearly punched the ball into the net yesterday.

There was a clear striking action for Rock's goal as well.

People might not like them but let's not make things up.

I understand the argument against some goals being palmed in and they are nearly thrown but that accusation could not be labelled at either goal yesterday. Clear striking action for both."
Look Mesamis, if Dublin kicked those goals at close range yesterday you'd have clowns arguing that only shots from 10metres out ought to be counted as goals.

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1974 - 20/12/2020 20:09:32    2324792

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Replying To GalwaysFinest:  "it shouldn't be abolished. nobody loves to see a palmed goal but the build up play to get them into that position is excellent to watch. its down to teams to figure out how to be not opened up and dont be vulnerable to the overlap. the dubs do it so well and the unselfishness is the reason they are so good.
Con's fisted goal was sheer class.
Damien Comer from Galway another great man to get a fisted goal. Its a great skill, you cant get rid of it.
Palmed goals arent as pretty to watch as a kicked goal but you cant abolish it."
It can be abolished. The game is called football. All goals should be scored with the foot.

Rolo2010 (Donegal) - Posts: 739 - 20/12/2020 20:13:10    2324794

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Replying To Canuck:  "The fisted pass was a distinct separation from the ball with striking action of the fist. One goal yesterday was pushed with both hands and the other was palmed. Palming a legal change (bad one) made but would not be allowed if fisting was the rule. The pushing of the ball a form of throwing definitely illegal. The GAA thought they were being smart by allowing these changes but in fact have contributed to some of the crap we are seeing into days football and hurling."
I missed the U20 game as I assume that's what you're on about?
Con nearly burst the net. I never seen someone generate so much power from a fisted effort like that. I was surprised it wasn't highlighted for the skill level it took. How in gods name you could say it was palmed is beyond me

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 20/12/2020 20:25:52    2324802

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