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just because something is an old tradition doesnt mean it cant be gotten rid of
perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 14/12/2020 15:48:33 2322331 Link 0 |
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Judging by the comments on this thread most supporters are in favour of keeping the speeches so why would they get rid of it If all a captain said was thanks I wouldnt be bothered by if hes handed a mic and talks for 10 mins you can switch the channel or leave the game. The speech isnt delaying you from anything. The game is over galwayfball (Galway) - Posts: 1704 - 14/12/2020 17:30:27 2322362 Link 3 |
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The Ryder cup captain's speech is the only comparison I can think of.
WicklowGael87 (Wicklow) - Posts: 11 - 14/12/2020 17:33:14 2322364 Link 0 |
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I hate them with a passion! If they were more original than just a "copy and paste" spiel, I wouldn't mind. WicklowGael87 (Wicklow) - Posts: 11 - 14/12/2020 17:38:29 2322369 Link 0 |
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What about the losing team? Why should they have to stand around for 10 minutes listening. They will be gutted after losing a final. All they want to do is get off the pitch. Leave these speeches for the winners, at their hotel dinner that night, and the celebrations when they get home.
Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2792 - 14/12/2020 19:38:02 2322410 Link 0 |
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At this stage in most county grounds after county finals the defeated team usually stays on the pitch until the speech has at least started. I think its called respect. Sometimes respect is fierce important and its Important that teams in the present times show that respect for the winning team and not fall away off to their dressing room immediately after the final whistle. That's my view. Sport is just that - a sport and is there to be enjoyed and there is a proper way to manage oneself after a win and after a defeat. Respect. Hard to beat it and staying on the pitch while perhaps difficult is part of what we do. Traditions should not be discarded because we find it hard to take a defeat or perhaps we are disappointed. Respecting the winners is important. carlowman (Carlow) - Posts: 1877 - 14/12/2020 21:46:48 2322469 Link 4 |
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Well said Cockney. It's soul destroying for the losers to stand there listening to a speech and being given a hi hip hoorah at the finish. Still there was some fab speeches that would make the hair stand on your neck but yes the majority are so boring. I had nt thought of your point before about the losers. Even as a supporter of the losing team its hard to watch.
CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3934 - 14/12/2020 22:04:10 2322477 Link 0 |
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He doesn't though. He could very easily get someone else to do it for him if he didn't want to
oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1651 - 14/12/2020 22:45:09 2322487 Link 0 |
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Bring on the snakes. Morrissey, Hegarty Lynch and Gullane, would charm them al day long, with their delightful striking.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4496 - 14/12/2020 23:22:15 2322499 Link 1 |
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As another poster said earlier, hip hip hooray and the pain is gone! Three cheers is the most annoying thing for a losing team to have to listen to when you know its just something they say in these speeches, horrible.
realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8756 - 14/12/2020 23:26:44 2322500 Link 9 |
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Paddy Doherty who captained Down in 1961 gave the best speech of all. Here is his entire speech: johnocarroll17 (Limerick) - Posts: 408 - 15/12/2020 01:41:42 2322504 Link 2 |
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That's pretty much my point,, by all means make a speech,, but ffs put some heart into it,, bit of passion,, some humour maybe,, enjoy it. It could be a great way to finish a great occasion ,, but the thanking of everyone in a monotone voice? It's the verbal equivalent of settling for a point when a goal is on. Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1942 - 15/12/2020 10:48:13 2322540 Link 0 |
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I wonder will they write a new speech for cluxtin this year or will he just go with the same 1 from the last 5 wins? KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 15/12/2020 11:15:59 2322555 Link 3 |
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Thought he spoke very well. It really seemed to upset you, maybe change channel next year ? carlovia (None) - Posts: 1538 - 15/12/2020 12:42:12 2322586 Link 2 |
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Yeah I was devastated alright
Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1942 - 15/12/2020 14:34:16 2322640 Link 0 |
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Thought Declan Hannon gave a great speech and certainly hit the right tone thanking the front line workers. I agree that there have been some very poor speeches over the years but with the year that is in it this is up there with one of the better speeches. Also with no crowd it was more difficult to deliver. It does add alot of extra pressure on the captain when they should be focusing on the game. Counties that pick their captains based on club champions can often end up with less articulate guys as captains which is adding unnecessary pressure. As in other sports maybe the GAA should just look at the captain lifting the cup only. journeyman (Limerick) - Posts: 141 - 15/12/2020 15:13:31 2322648 Link 0 |
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Stephen is a very clever man actually and doesn't need anyone to script his speeches. Social anxiety is a real issue for many people. I recall several times when the cameras caught Jim Gavin encouraging Stephen after an All-Ireland victory and re-assuring him. Stephen dispenses with the awful obligatory 'Hip hip Hooray' and his speeches are usually terse and economical. It's hard for the losing team to have to stand there and listen but it is part of our tradition. Cluxton has changed GAA football by understanding the importance of kickouts , He has been a fabulous servant to Dublin. He is shy and self-effacing, and remarkably humble. He doesn't need to add speech making to his CV.
avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1994 - 15/12/2020 15:37:38 2322659 Link 7 |
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Might be biased but I thought Declan Hannon gave a very good speech last Sunday and as a traditionalist i wouldn't like to see speeches gone from the GAA. I thought it was a nice touch Declan Hannon mentioned the health workers too as someone who experience first-hand this year what they do in the care they give. DUALSUPPORT (Limerick) - Posts: 1038 - 15/12/2020 19:21:54 2322708 Link 0 |
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Never minded standing around myself, it is a bit of respect for the opponent. Have been on both sides in my career so it doesn't bother me. I also don't mind the tradition (in Wexford anyway) of sometimes meeting up the next day with the opponents for a few pints, I don't know if it happens in other counties. I absolutely hate the 3 cheers. I would rather 3 boos to be honest. Or 3 shouts of losers. Good to see captains starting to cut it out. I hope every captain would do the same. StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1842 - 15/12/2020 21:13:37 2322745 Link 2 |
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What do people want a fella to slog away for 70 minutes and deliver a folklore speech. The expectation of the players is ridiculous. The captains of any All-Ireland winners have obvious proven leadership skills and if a captain wants to deliver a speech thanking everybody who assisted in delivering the title well so be it. The_Bull (Cork) - Posts: 248 - 15/12/2020 21:58:01 2322765 Link 3 |