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How Many More All Irelands For This Limerick Team?

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Replying To Armchairreporter:  "I watched a hurling match from 1999 on tv last night. The excitement of it with ground hurling, physicality, goal mouth scrambles and goals scored. If I'm around in 20 years time I don't think I'll be tuning in to a repeat of this year's hurling final. Such a boring style of hurling. Even last year's final was one sided but at least it better watch."
The 1999 All-Ireland final was a goal-less one, Cork 0-13 Kilkenny 0-12.

The 1999 All-Ireland semi final was goal-less also, Cork 0-19 Offaly 0-16.

The 1999 Munster Final had one goal, Cork 1-15 Clare 0-14.

That Cork team was an excellent side, who changed how hurling was played with short puck outs, retaining possession and denying the opposition the ball. Many other sides built on this over the years, not least Cork themselves who produced one of the most complete displays of hurling in the 2004 All-Ireland final beating Kilkenny 0-17 to 0-9.

I'm guessing the game you watched was the 99 quarter final replay, Clare 3-18 Galway 2-14? Great stuff and I loved the hurling back then too. But there are a lot of similarities between the Cork side of 1999 and Limerick 2020. Personally I don't think either team was or is boring. When Kilkenny and Tipperary were winning one sides games they weren't boring. You just have to stand and applaud their genius.

We in Limerick are just happy to be at the summit now. Who knows how long it will last. Nothing lasts forever, we have to savour what we have while we have it.

slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6480 - 16/12/2020 10:28:30    2322819

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Replying To slayer:  "The 1999 All-Ireland final was a goal-less one, Cork 0-13 Kilkenny 0-12.

The 1999 All-Ireland semi final was goal-less also, Cork 0-19 Offaly 0-16.

The 1999 Munster Final had one goal, Cork 1-15 Clare 0-14.

That Cork team was an excellent side, who changed how hurling was played with short puck outs, retaining possession and denying the opposition the ball. Many other sides built on this over the years, not least Cork themselves who produced one of the most complete displays of hurling in the 2004 All-Ireland final beating Kilkenny 0-17 to 0-9.

I'm guessing the game you watched was the 99 quarter final replay, Clare 3-18 Galway 2-14? Great stuff and I loved the hurling back then too. But there are a lot of similarities between the Cork side of 1999 and Limerick 2020. Personally I don't think either team was or is boring. When Kilkenny and Tipperary were winning one sides games they weren't boring. You just have to stand and applaud their genius.

We in Limerick are just happy to be at the summit now. Who knows how long it will last. Nothing lasts forever, we have to savour what we have while we have it."
No1 has won an all Ireland with a traditional 15 on 15 since the late 90s early noughties. As you say Cork developed their style then and Kilkenny countered by having the half forwards like 2 extra midfielders or even wing backs to counter it. It is a shame there are less goals in general but then some of the points scored this year have been nearly as good. Tony Kelly scored 3 from both sides of the pitch by the corner flag against us. 1 right on the flag. Unbelievable skill!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12101 - 16/12/2020 11:06:47    2322826

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Replying To CTGAA10:  "I'm thinking some of the posts being recited by galway people on this discussion are actually coming from only one person..a lot of it seems to be around sleeping and boring for an all ireland final..it's great that this limerick team are getting under the skin of some in Galway.."
I have only one profile and as I said in earlier posts "Congrats to Limerick 2 All Ireland's in 3 years" They have set a serious bench mark for every other team and no doubt about it they are the best team in the country. I just don't like their style of hurling and was never a fan of Corks running style either. Does it get under my skin, no. Would it bother me if they won the next 5 All Ireland's, no. It's not Limericks problem if no one can beat them. Enjoy the celebrations. Well deserved...
PS Just try and score some goals next year.... LOL

Armchairreporter (Galway) - Posts: 76 - 16/12/2020 11:36:02    2322829

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Replying To bloodyban:  "What in God's name are you on about? Hurling has never played second fiddle to rugby in the county. Limerick city is a huge sporting city with rugby the marque sport. Most people love all sports. Half those Limerick players today have played rugby. They know what its like to get properly strong, to do serious training. I think your a wum..your post is mean and unwarranted."
Therein lies the beauty of sport, I would much rather live in a city or town that is sports mad, and has a rugby team, hurling team, soccer team etc to follow, and Limerick is way ahead of most cities in Ireland bar Dublin in that regard. Yes Munster are not the power house they once were, but there is no doubt that rugby still holds a very special place in most Limerick hearts and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Sure looking at that Limerick team, most of them could probably play rugby for Munster, it's insane though seeing such talented hurlers who are literally giants of men. There is no doubt that the future is very bright for Limerick hurling, and hopefully the great Munster team will also return to rugby's top table some time in the not too distant future.

gilly1910 (Galway) - Posts: 170 - 16/12/2020 11:52:06    2322835

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Replying To gilly1910:  "Therein lies the beauty of sport, I would much rather live in a city or town that is sports mad, and has a rugby team, hurling team, soccer team etc to follow, and Limerick is way ahead of most cities in Ireland bar Dublin in that regard. Yes Munster are not the power house they once were, but there is no doubt that rugby still holds a very special place in most Limerick hearts and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Sure looking at that Limerick team, most of them could probably play rugby for Munster, it's insane though seeing such talented hurlers who are literally giants of men. There is no doubt that the future is very bright for Limerick hurling, and hopefully the great Munster team will also return to rugby's top table some time in the not too distant future."
Some Galway fan you are. Lets hope that Galway hurlers win an All Ireland, and also the Footballers. And Galway Utd get promoted too. Gaillimh abú

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2522 - 16/12/2020 12:48:10    2322843

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Because Galway are so competitive in all sports....we can't have a "Sugar Daddy " spend his wealth on "one" particular sport.

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2230 - 16/12/2020 13:47:48    2322861

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Replying To gilly1910:  "Therein lies the beauty of sport, I would much rather live in a city or town that is sports mad, and has a rugby team, hurling team, soccer team etc to follow, and Limerick is way ahead of most cities in Ireland bar Dublin in that regard. Yes Munster are not the power house they once were, but there is no doubt that rugby still holds a very special place in most Limerick hearts and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Sure looking at that Limerick team, most of them could probably play rugby for Munster, it's insane though seeing such talented hurlers who are literally giants of men. There is no doubt that the future is very bright for Limerick hurling, and hopefully the great Munster team will also return to rugby's top table some time in the not too distant future."
Your prerogative. Some would rather be from a county that excels in one sport as opposed to being bang average at many.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1732 - 16/12/2020 14:33:47    2322882

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Replying To galwayford:  "Some Galway fan you are. Lets hope that Galway hurlers win an All Ireland, and also the Footballers. And Galway Utd get promoted too. Gaillimh abú"
What about Connacht? Made great strides in Rugby the last 10 years?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12101 - 16/12/2020 15:01:06    2322892

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Replying To katser:  "Because Galway are so competitive in all sports....we can't have a "Sugar Daddy " spend his wealth on "one" particular sport."
What about Pat Mcdonagh?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12101 - 16/12/2020 15:02:29    2322893

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Replying To Armchairreporter:  "I have only one profile and as I said in earlier posts "Congrats to Limerick 2 All Ireland's in 3 years" They have set a serious bench mark for every other team and no doubt about it they are the best team in the country. I just don't like their style of hurling and was never a fan of Corks running style either. Does it get under my skin, no. Would it bother me if they won the next 5 All Ireland's, no. It's not Limericks problem if no one can beat them. Enjoy the celebrations. Well deserved...
PS Just try and score some goals next year.... LOL"
Why would we even bother about goals when we can rack up an average of thirty points in every game. tell me again how many goals Galway got against us this year or for that matter how many shots did Nicky Quaid have to save that day.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4344 - 16/12/2020 15:39:00    2322913

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It is good to see the Irish Independent giving credit to Limerick city school Ard Scoil Rís in an article headed " Hogwarts
of hurling nurtured 15 of Limerick's All-Ireland winners and also of course the academy instead of reading poor Katser.

fainleog (Limerick) - Posts: 598 - 16/12/2020 15:56:39    2322921

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Replying To Viking66:  "What about Pat Mcdonagh?"
He doesn't actually give them that much . I know there has been abut if division. He wants to know how the money is spent and Galway want more money..

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 16/12/2020 16:01:59    2322923

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Replying To fainleog:  "It is good to see the Irish Independent giving credit to Limerick city school Ard Scoil Rís in an article headed " Hogwarts
of hurling nurtured 15 of Limerick's All-Ireland winners and also of course the academy instead of reading poor Katser."
Paul O Connell ,Dave Kilcoyne, Craig Casey
, Dan Goggin and many more rugby players aswell. Good school...my old Alma Mater..and loads of Clare hurlers aswell

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 16/12/2020 16:14:35    2322929

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Replying To endgame:  "Limerick is a big population county 195,000 so they don't all have to be playing hurling.Kilkenny by contrast has a population of just under 100,000.Congatulations to Limerick on a brilliant performance today.I'd certainly expect this team to win more All-Irelands.They have it all.Just need to keep their focus and appetite."
Kilkenny won there last football game in 1929, had there last rugby international about forty years and they have not had premier division soccer team in decades..

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4344 - 16/12/2020 16:28:56    2322936

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Replying To Viking66:  "What about Pat Mcdonagh?"
Pat helps out with All hurling, Football, Camogie and Ladies football teams aswell as others...god love him he is doing his best

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2230 - 16/12/2020 16:43:44    2322941

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Replying To katser:  "Pat helps out with All hurling, Football, Camogie and Ladies football teams aswell as others...god love him he is doing his best"
Fair play to him. If I had any spare money I'd love to support Wexford the way hes supported Galway this millennium.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12101 - 16/12/2020 18:58:42    2322975

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Replying To bloodyban:  "Paul O Connell ,Dave Kilcoyne, Craig Casey
, Dan Goggin and many more rugby players aswell. Good school...my old Alma Mater..and loads of Clare hurlers aswell"
And mine too- long ago when CBS Sexton Street were absolutely flying.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4344 - 16/12/2020 19:11:35    2322980

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Replying To Viking66:  "What about Pat Mcdonagh?"
He doesn't give galway that much and gets a lot in return for his money although I think he has every right to know where the money is spent

And people might forget but the mens football team couldnt actually get a sponsor not so long ago. Cancer Care West was on the front of the jersey which is a great cause which I support myself but we couldnt get a sponsor.

galwayfball (Galway) - Posts: 1679 - 16/12/2020 19:36:21    2322990

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What JP brings to Limerick is the organisation and a demand for high standards in the academy. The best 14 year olds and up are trained on a Saturday morning but their diets are looked after( maybe that's why they are so big) and their S and C is properly looked after for their age. Each management team is assessed and are changed if deemed necessary. As the kids go up through the ages the less dedicated fall by the wayside if they are not training or performing and by the time you get to minor you have hurlers that are interested and dedicated to Limerick hurling. None of this is rocket science or overly expensive if you have dedicated people and players. Maybe Limericks real advantage is that people outside the County Board are calling the shots in the academy and politics and fellas looking to get their own kids or lads from their own clubs involved is a non issue. JP is a Limerick hurling fan first and foremost and has put his money where his mouth is and surely most counties have wealthy people who can help their teams and push up standards.

updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 817 - 16/12/2020 19:52:57    2322995

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "And mine too- long ago when CBS Sexton Street were absolutely flying."
Oldtourman.
Just a query. Are Sexton Street CBS, and Ard Scoil Ris, two separate schools?

MicktheMiller (Offaly) - Posts: 421 - 16/12/2020 20:10:04    2322999

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