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Antrim -Kerry It Doesn't Make Sense

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On Sunday Antrim play Kerry in the Joe McDonagh Final and rightly it is on before the All-Ireland SHC Final, but they can't stay and watch the Senior Final. We are talking about 80, not 81 or 82 but 80 individuals who are told well done lads but on you go, book into a hotel get a feed and watch it there. Anyone is anyway involved in GAA, wants Covid gone and will follow all the guidlines, but tell me from Cork to Derry, Dublin to Galway every Penny's store will be full.....
It doesn't make sense...... lads you can travel up from Kerry and down from Antrim but you can't stay about......
All I can say is best of luck to both teams.......

cuchulainn35 (Armagh) - Posts: 1676 - 10/12/2020 13:07:23    2321023

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It doesn't. It is what it is.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4226 - 10/12/2020 14:01:57    2321042

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What, are you serious? That's a disgrace.
Have you a link to where the GAA confirmed that?

The mind boggles.

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 10/12/2020 14:43:39    2321059

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Another thing that doesn't make sense: if Kerry win on Sunday, they play in the LEINSTER championship next year! Why is that?

football first (None) - Posts: 1259 - 10/12/2020 15:18:07    2321067

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Just wondering what is becoming of the hospitality boxes in Croke Park at the moment, could they not be used to accommodate let's say the families of the participating teams and the Antrim and Kerry teams could easily social distance let's say six per section of each stand. If you can travel on a bus surely you can safely sit apart in those huge stands. But official Ireland and officious GAA get it difficult to think on their feet.

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1063 - 10/12/2020 15:25:15    2321069

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Replying To football first:  "Another thing that doesn't make sense: if Kerry win on Sunday, they play in the LEINSTER championship next year! Why is that?"
Think its because Leinster might be considered the weaker of the two hurling provinces,especially the fifth team.

ONdeDITCH (Limerick) - Posts: 873 - 10/12/2020 15:40:53    2321074

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First of all well done to both teams on reaching the final well deserved. But if Kerry win why are they been put into the leinster championship and not the Munster championship? First of all they are miles away from any of the leinster counties in the first place and its basically saying to Kerry you're not good enough to compete with the Munster counties but you can compete with the leinster ones ? Thers is a Munster championship Kerry are a Munster team why not play in it it's a farce. And before people comes and says Galway and Antrim play in leinster we all know that's different because they're is no Ulster and connocht championship running currently. But Munster is well documented as the number one hurling province

Irishcelt (Wicklow) - Posts: 149 - 10/12/2020 15:43:43    2321075

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Replying To ONdeDITCH:  "Think its because Leinster might be considered the weaker of the two hurling provinces,especially the fifth team."
So basically the counties who consider themselves to be "strong" are happy enough to have the McDonagh Cup winners yo-yoing up and down most years, and don't want to upset the status quo? Afraid that Kerry could relegate Clare, for example??

football first (None) - Posts: 1259 - 10/12/2020 15:50:59    2321078

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Replying To Irishcelt:  "First of all well done to both teams on reaching the final well deserved. But if Kerry win why are they been put into the leinster championship and not the Munster championship? First of all they are miles away from any of the leinster counties in the first place and its basically saying to Kerry you're not good enough to compete with the Munster counties but you can compete with the leinster ones ? Thers is a Munster championship Kerry are a Munster team why not play in it it's a farce. And before people comes and says Galway and Antrim play in leinster we all know that's different because they're is no Ulster and connocht championship running currently. But Munster is well documented as the number one hurling province"
For me this is why the hurling championship should just be a national competition. The Leinster championship is no the All Ireland minus 5 other traditional counties.

You could feasibly have Galway, Antrim, Kerry playing in a competition run by the organisation tasked with promoting Gaelic games in Leinster at the expense of Laois, Westmeath, Carlow. I don't think that long term this is the correct approach.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4226 - 10/12/2020 16:05:50    2321082

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Replying To football first:  "So basically the counties who consider themselves to be "strong" are happy enough to have the McDonagh Cup winners yo-yoing up and down most years, and don't want to upset the status quo? Afraid that Kerry could relegate Clare, for example??"
Agree with you 100 percent

Irishcelt (Wicklow) - Posts: 149 - 10/12/2020 16:10:35    2321084

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Replying To cuchulainn35:  "On Sunday Antrim play Kerry in the Joe McDonagh Final and rightly it is on before the All-Ireland SHC Final, but they can't stay and watch the Senior Final. We are talking about 80, not 81 or 82 but 80 individuals who are told well done lads but on you go, book into a hotel get a feed and watch it there. Anyone is anyway involved in GAA, wants Covid gone and will follow all the guidlines, but tell me from Cork to Derry, Dublin to Galway every Penny's store will be full.....
It doesn't make sense...... lads you can travel up from Kerry and down from Antrim but you can't stay about......
All I can say is best of luck to both teams......."
Yea and the the young u20 Galway and Dublin lads will play an All Ire final before the senior Final
But they have been told to go as well they cannaot stay
Some treatment for young lads who im sure would love to see the game up close
What kind of message is that sending

rhudson (Galway) - Posts: 1478 - 10/12/2020 16:26:06    2321090

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Replying To Irishcelt:  "First of all well done to both teams on reaching the final well deserved. But if Kerry win why are they been put into the leinster championship and not the Munster championship? First of all they are miles away from any of the leinster counties in the first place and its basically saying to Kerry you're not good enough to compete with the Munster counties but you can compete with the leinster ones ? Thers is a Munster championship Kerry are a Munster team why not play in it it's a farce. And before people comes and says Galway and Antrim play in leinster we all know that's different because they're is no Ulster and connocht championship running currently. But Munster is well documented as the number one hurling province"
If Limerick start to dominate hurling you will see Kerry back in the Munster SHC to put a stop to their gallop

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3676 - 10/12/2020 18:37:01    2321129

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Replying To rhudson:  "Yea and the the young u20 Galway and Dublin lads will play an All Ire final before the senior Final
But they have been told to go as well they cannaot stay
Some treatment for young lads who im sure would love to see the game up close
What kind of message is that sending"
The people who are giving out haven't a clue. The GAA are to be commended for getting the championship played. People should be praising them but the trolls who are on this won't ever do that

mickcunningham (Westmeath) - Posts: 1802 - 10/12/2020 20:01:12    2321159

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Every sports organisation in the world are running off all there compilations not just the gaa

Irishcelt (Wicklow) - Posts: 149 - 10/12/2020 22:16:44    2321220

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At the start of the championship, it was probably 50-50 getting all the matches played.

There were many people who didn't want to see the matches played after the club winners celebration stuff.

Instead we have got through the matches without incident and given the country a much needed boost.

Of course 80 spectators shouldn't be a threat but then
shouldn't the 80 be families of the players. And then
if they go, can't a few spectators go as well etc etc.

Let's just get through the two finals without any issues and
prove to the anti-gaa people out there how a properly run organisation operates.

carlovia (None) - Posts: 1517 - 10/12/2020 22:39:06    2321231

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Good game some great players and points! Great to see Antrim back in the Liam McCarthy but hard luck on Kerry I'm sure they'll be contending again next year. Great competition the Joe Mcdonagh Cup.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11896 - 13/12/2020 14:44:39    2321880

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "If Limerick start to dominate hurling you will see Kerry back in the Munster SHC to put a stop to their gallop"
Cork beat Limerick yesterday in U20 Munster semifinal. The rebels are back

Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 13/12/2020 17:23:16    2321963

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Replying To Irishcelt:  "First of all well done to both teams on reaching the final well deserved. But if Kerry win why are they been put into the leinster championship and not the Munster championship? First of all they are miles away from any of the leinster counties in the first place and its basically saying to Kerry you're not good enough to compete with the Munster counties but you can compete with the leinster ones ? Thers is a Munster championship Kerry are a Munster team why not play in it it's a farce. And before people comes and says Galway and Antrim play in leinster we all know that's different because they're is no Ulster and connocht championship running currently. But Munster is well documented as the number one hurling province"
Stupidest.thing.ever.
Only in Ireland. Geography never the GAA's strongest subject.

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1733 - 13/12/2020 17:44:00    2321991

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Replying To Irishcelt:  "Every sports organisation in the world are running off all there compilations not just the gaa"
Every professional sports organisation are. Not every amatuar one where the players don't live in a bubble
The facts are right now Munster is stronger than Leinster even Kilkenny Wexford and Galway are finding it difficult to compete with the Limerick machine

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1458 - 14/12/2020 07:31:14    2322195

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Replying To Irishcelt:  "Every sports organisation in the world are running off all there compilations not just the gaa"
Every professional sports organisation are. Not every amatuar one where the players don't live in a bubble
The facts are right now Munster is stronger than Leinster even Kilkenny Wexford and Galway are finding it difficult to compete with the Limerick machine

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1458 - 14/12/2020 07:31:35    2322196

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