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I seen Aidan Walsh retirement and all the plaudits etc...I over heard one or two never heard of him!!...isnt it a sign of the times with back doors, super 8s, and what have you, there are so many games and panels are so big, players like Aidan Walsh, will not be remembered in times to come outside Cork, even winning one All Ireland would scarcely get one remembered now...isnt it a pity in ways...as a child I remember days like Dermot Earley annoncing his retirement for example and while never winning an All Ireland it was big news at thet time for a few weeks...Aidan Walsh, and Anthony Nash will be remembered by true and true GAA supporters, but many wont remember them in 10/20 years time...nothing personal at all against these players, as I say its just a sign of the times.... Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 08/12/2020 15:28:21 2320279 Link 0 |
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A rule change came in because of Nash. He hasn't been the number 1 keeper in the country for the last 3 or 4 years, but he certainly isn't forgotten. Walsh essentially retired from intercounty football in 2011 or so and went to play hurling. Didn't win anything with the hurlers so again, hasn't been a top player for a while. cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5016 - 08/12/2020 15:41:02 2320286 Link 3 |
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I think Aidan Walsh winning an All Ireland and player of the year will keep him remembered more than other members of that Cork football team. As a hurler he won't be remembered at all. He should have stayed with the footballers. I can see where you're going with Nash, but I think the fact they had to change the rules because of him in 2013, he may be remembered more than most in the Cork hurling teams of the past 15 years, as it has been a largely forgettable time for Cork hurling. I have heard many people on here not rating Nash, but I for one think he's been a fantastic keeper for Cork and wish him all the best. The same goes for Aidan. Good luck to them both. BaldyBadger (Cork) - Posts: 311 - 08/12/2020 15:50:57 2320291 Link 1 |
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ah Nash was a top keeper, no more than Pat Horgan in the forwards, great talent and hurler..Nash will be remembered for sure...Aidan Walsh was a good hurler by Cork standards I suppose, he would be very good hurler in other counties... I remember him coming back onto the Cork hurling panel and it was always greeted with a plus for Cork hurling...exactly, good wishes to them both, alot of sacrifices with small return in ways (for Nash anyway)
Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 08/12/2020 18:08:17 2320370 Link 0 |
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In fairness we Limerick followers, who were in the GGs on the night of the 2011 Munster U21 Hurling Final, will never forget Aidan Walshe's display. He scored eight points from play and almost singlehandedly beat the best U21 team we ever had. Subsequently some very poor selection choices beat us against Galway, when we played a full forward who literally was playing with one hand. Ironically, in relation to Anthony Nash, his extended family are Limerick hurling aristocracy to the core and it was hoped, when Donal Og was still very firmly in situ, and we had no really outstanding goalie, that efforts would be made to entice Anthony to return to his roots and don the white and green. However this 'plan' never materialised. However, all GAA men will wish the two Kanturk men all the best in their retirements. Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4331 - 08/12/2020 18:29:58 2320377 Link 0 |
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Oldtourman I was present at that 21 final to and the display given on the night by Walsh will possibly never be equaled,if I'm right he got man of match..after 2010 I think he lost his way a bit trying to be a dual player..I always felt in last few years he'd have offered an outlet to the hurlers as a complete ball winner..I think Nash will be remembered as a very good keeper,he came after cusack and his puck outs were even better,precision and length..best wishes to both on retirement.. CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2224 - 08/12/2020 19:17:44 2320394 Link 0 |
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He retired in 2011? He won a Munster championship and an All-Star in 2012. He also won a Munster championship with the hurlers in 2014. If he's not remembered it'll be down to the fact he kept changing from football and hurling without ever settling with one. oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1380 - 08/12/2020 22:00:11 2320484 Link 0 |
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You are so right badger. Aidan was a top midfielder and possibly in the top 3 in the country when he switched to hurling. When he came back to football his standard seemed to have dropped and left again for hurlers. Did nt work out for him as a hurler but a top footballer in his day. He could still make an impact in football if he was interested for a year or two. Nash was a class keeper. Confident and exciting. Wish them both well in their retirement.
CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3678 - 09/12/2020 08:10:06 2320541 Link 0 |
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Thought Nash was top class for a number of years. What he was able to do with those frees was crazy! Not sure Aidan Walsh was close to the same standard. Intercounty hurling requires full commitment these days. I think when you go from one code to the other you loose ground on the lads who dedicate 100%. I think this may have affected Clare's Podge Collins also. Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 09/12/2020 09:55:34 2320559 Link 0 |
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Neil McGee retired after the ulster final last week. there was hardly a whisper about it, despite him having played 16 seasons with Donegal. I wish him the very best and hope he has a good retirement. Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 09/12/2020 10:05:37 2320561 Link 2 |
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Hold on, is that official?! I haven't heard a peep about it
JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 09/12/2020 10:11:55 2320564 Link 0 |
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great to see the post take off and other retired players mentioned who, as I say in the title, go relatively un noticed despite years of star performances etc...I rarely go for "equals" in great displays on any given day, as there will always be an equal witnessed somewhere else and in different circumstances..my thinking is of Cork midfielder Micky O'Connell having an absolutely super U21 All Ireland final appearance back in late 1990's scoring 8 or 9 points from play...that display stands out for me as seen it...another player who never really made the senior impact we thought he would....
Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 09/12/2020 10:34:19 2320573 Link 0 |
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Is Conor Lehane gone as well?!?! Nash top class...one flaw, though. Stayed rooted to the goal line. Walsh's potential as a hurler never really materialised. keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 09/12/2020 18:25:41 2320792 Link 0 |
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Was that not against Waterford in the '99 Munster Senior Championship game. Mickey was actually born in Gurtavalla in Doon Co Limerick, but the family moved to Midelton, when he was a young child. Dan Murphy who was on the panel that year spent most of his young life in Newcastle West. Both promised more than they achieved, but they were two fine hurlers.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4331 - 09/12/2020 18:33:46 2320801 Link 0 |
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There will probably be a few after the All-Ireland football final, irrespective of the result. Hard to see Keith Higgins, Colm Boyle, SOS, Donie Vaughan etc. soldiering on for another season if they're not getting the game time. Father time has probably caught up with a few of the serial All-Ireland winners on the Dubs bench too. Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 10/12/2020 14:51:18 2321063 Link 0 |
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Dan Murphy was a fabulous hurler , I used to often wonder whyere he ended up. Wasn't he captain on the u21 winners along with Donal Og and the Rock? Apart from being on the panel in 99 did he ever play senior championship? I can't recall him ever getting a run?
Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1913 - 10/12/2020 21:10:26 2321192 Link 1 |
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I dont and never have understood why individual players will get judged by people in a team sport based on what the team won ? Individuals dont win team trophies. Messi couldnt have been the best individual player in the world if he wasnt playing alongside insista, xavi etc at barcelona and being coached by a world class coach in pep guardiola. Similarly, your logic of using the fact Walsh didnt win anything with the cork hurlers as an exhibit of evidence that he hasnt been a top player for a while is totally flawed. Does that mean Kerry in football havent had a top player for 6 years cause they havent managed to win an all ireland as a collective? Is emlyn mulligan not a top player because he will never win anything with leitrim? It's a nonsense argument. A player should be judged on their individual performances not the collective end results. For what its worth I cant be bothered with hurling so I've no idea if he has been or hasnt been a top player. I just know that using the teams achievements to judge one player is not the correct barometer imo! waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 11/12/2020 10:26:23 2321284 Link 5 |
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Agreed Wayno, a player should be judged on their individual performances, not the collective end results. A pity the All-Star selectors don't follow that logic.
midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 545 - 11/12/2020 13:39:00 2321348 Link 0 |
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Great Post Waynol and yes the judgement of players brilliance is bewildering at times. It's like the Goalie on a great team might not have many saves to make so goes unnoticed. I agree too that some players on great teams might not be as good on weaker teams. On the flip side in a weak team a good player might look brilliant cos he s the top man but if he was with a bigger team he might not shine as much. Declan D'Arcy would be an example of this. A good player with Dublin but did nt stand out but at Leitrim a superstar. Also as you say players that win nothing does nt mean they are nt brilliant. An example of this would be Gary Brennan of Clare. In my opinion after Fenton he is the 2nd best midfielder in the country.
CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3678 - 11/12/2020 14:13:43 2321357 Link 1 |
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I find it comforting that some big names get forgotten over time because it's a sign that the time has progressed properly and that they have retired peacfully. Names that lasts long are often like Kobe Bryant who whose death was sudden and tragic. KaitlynnDuff (Longford) - Posts: 17 - 14/12/2020 12:41:23 2322268 Link 0 |