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Replying To Black+Blue: "Ah Mick... Dublin have completely dominated the last decade...10 Leinsters in a row and 8 All Ireland's !!...to try and compare that with the previous 2 decades is disingenuous . I'd like to see the odds on them winning 9/10 of the 10 Leinsters this decade and 7/8 of the 10 All Ireland's this decade as well....they already have 1 of each so far ..." Oh I know Black and blue but I'm trying to look at the glass half full. Last decade there were still 4 counties that won Sam. Dubs won 7.Yes they are the team to beat but not unbeatable. The Dubs will win a few more this decade but not as many i would think. CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3901 - 20/03/2021 17:46:50 2334611 Link
Replying To Black+Blue: "Ah Mick... Dublin have completely dominated the last decade...10 Leinsters in a row and 8 All Ireland's !!...to try and compare that with the previous 2 decades is disingenuous . I'd like to see the odds on them winning 9/10 of the 10 Leinsters this decade and 7/8 of the 10 All Ireland's this decade as well....they already have 1 of each so far ..." Yeah I've been following the gaa since 98 and the all Ireland has never been less competitive. Even during the 2000s tyrone only ever went one season unbeaten {03},while kerry only had two {04,09}. CiarraíMick is a very good poster, one of the more mature on this forum, not that that's hard (ahem) but what's happening re the dubs dominance is pretty worrying for the championship as a whole. It's pulling the pss to suggest otherwise. Galway9801 (Galway)* - Posts: 1942 - 20/03/2021 18:06:38 2334612 Link
Replying To Black+Blue: "Ah Mick... Dublin have completely dominated the last decade...10 Leinsters in a row and 8 All Ireland's !!...to try and compare that with the previous 2 decades is disingenuous . I'd like to see the odds on them winning 9/10 of the 10 Leinsters this decade and 7/8 of the 10 All Ireland's this decade as well....they already have 1 of each so far ..." Google might be able to help you out there -:) superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2842 - 20/03/2021 23:28:27 2334629 Link
Radical solution, don't split Dublin just dissolve the county team and have the Dublin SFC Championship winners enter the Leinster and then All Ireland Inter County. With population and sponsorship, the top Dublin clubs will easily be competitive. Would solve (to a degree) the lack of identity with a created from scratch Dublin West or South Dublin or whatever. Whatever way you cut it, Dublin are going to dominate Leinster and the AI for a long long time and it is now starting to do serious damage to the game and other counties. And it goes without saying, this isn't Dublin's fault and this team is class, their players are class etc etc. The problem is of course, nothing will happen, excuses made and it will roll on, causing untold damage on the way. I do wonder at what point the GAA will make some half arsed attempt to do something...10 All Ireland's in a row? London125 (UK) - Posts: 55 - 10/04/2021 19:07:57 2336771 Link
Replying To London125: "Radical solution, don't split Dublin just dissolve the county team and have the Dublin SFC Championship winners enter the Leinster and then All Ireland Inter County. With population and sponsorship, the top Dublin clubs will easily be competitive. Would solve (to a degree) the lack of identity with a created from scratch Dublin West or South Dublin or whatever. Whatever way you cut it, Dublin are going to dominate Leinster and the AI for a long long time and it is now starting to do serious damage to the game and other counties. And it goes without saying, this isn't Dublin's fault and this team is class, their players are class etc etc. The problem is of course, nothing will happen, excuses made and it will roll on, causing untold damage on the way. I do wonder at what point the GAA will make some half arsed attempt to do something...10 All Ireland's in a row?" Eh yeh, and an attendance of 500. realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8746 - 10/04/2021 19:43:01 2336772 Link
Replying To London125: "Radical solution, don't split Dublin just dissolve the county team and have the Dublin SFC Championship winners enter the Leinster and then All Ireland Inter County. With population and sponsorship, the top Dublin clubs will easily be competitive. Would solve (to a degree) the lack of identity with a created from scratch Dublin West or South Dublin or whatever. Whatever way you cut it, Dublin are going to dominate Leinster and the AI for a long long time and it is now starting to do serious damage to the game and other counties. And it goes without saying, this isn't Dublin's fault and this team is class, their players are class etc etc. The problem is of course, nothing will happen, excuses made and it will roll on, causing untold damage on the way. I do wonder at what point the GAA will make some half arsed attempt to do something...10 All Ireland's in a row?" 15 in a row superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2842 - 10/04/2021 19:59:38 2336774 Link
Replying To realdub: "Eh yeh, and an attendance of 500." Maybe at first, but at least there would be an identity there. Those in favour of splitting Dublin often ignore the fact that you can't just create a 'Dublin West or 'South Dublin' and expect people to give a toss about them. Just an idea, I realise it has zero chance of happening. London125 (UK) - Posts: 55 - 10/04/2021 20:37:01 2336780 Link
Replying To London125: "Maybe at first, but at least there would be an identity there. Those in favour of splitting Dublin often ignore the fact that you can't just create a 'Dublin West or 'South Dublin' and expect people to give a toss about them. Just an idea, I realise it has zero chance of happening." It would have to be across the board and we already have an AI club championship. realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8746 - 10/04/2021 20:55:47 2336782 Link
Replying To London125: "Radical solution, don't split Dublin just dissolve the county team and have the Dublin SFC Championship winners enter the Leinster and then All Ireland Inter County. With population and sponsorship, the top Dublin clubs will easily be competitive. Would solve (to a degree) the lack of identity with a created from scratch Dublin West or South Dublin or whatever. Whatever way you cut it, Dublin are going to dominate Leinster and the AI for a long long time and it is now starting to do serious damage to the game and other counties. And it goes without saying, this isn't Dublin's fault and this team is class, their players are class etc etc. The problem is of course, nothing will happen, excuses made and it will roll on, causing untold damage on the way. I do wonder at what point the GAA will make some half arsed attempt to do something...10 All Ireland's in a row?" That's the way it was in the early years with the club representing their counties. However we have evolved and won't be going back. Instead of whining and worrying about Dublin. Counties should be trying to emulate them. Dublin can only have 26 players on the panel for any match and that's the same as every other team. 6 in a row is a fab feat but every year is a new beginning. Yes I have them as red hot favourites again this year the way the structure is but when we get back to quarter finals again its open season. I don't want to take from last year's win but it was the first time they won an all ireland without playing any team in the top 4 during the championship. CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3901 - 10/04/2021 21:29:11 2336785 Link
Replying To Galway9801: "Yeah I've been following the gaa since 98 and the all Ireland has never been less competitive. Even during the 2000s tyrone only ever went one season unbeaten {03},while kerry only had two {04,09}. CiarraíMick is a very good poster, one of the more mature on this forum, not that that's hard (ahem) but what's happening re the dubs dominance is pretty worrying for the championship as a whole. It's pulling the pss to suggest otherwise." I agree that the All Ireland has never been less competitive but the other counties need to take a look at themselves - from the eras you mentioned 90s & 00s none of the top counties from then are producing any where near the same quality of players now - Meath, Galway, Kildare, Derry, Down, Cork, Tyrone even Kerry. bad.monkey (USA)* - Posts: 4649 - 10/04/2021 22:03:46 2336791 Link
I think everybody now realizes that the AI Senior Football Championship as its presently constituted is no longer a competition worthy of being called one.Many supporters,having reflected on it, have come to the conclusion that from the offing the competition was never fairly and evenly set up with teams whereby the vast majority of which could realistically expect success.Success for some of the weaker county teams has been to hold their own for part of a game against a stronger team and indeed just to be on the same pitch as one of the big guns and play against them,how unfair and insulting is that? Young players today will not be satisfied with condescending and patronizing as a measure of success and rightly so. Splitting Dublin and amalgamating the majority of the other teams to give 16 competitive teams would make a great competition. This may not happen for a long number of years as the GAA as an organization is slow to move and change.I hope that they don't go about tinkering around the edges with change coming incrementally over decades,hope that doesn't transpire. It could happen if the young players drive it or if its left as is and continues with the fall off in support and competition the GAA will by default deal with the problem when it might be much too late. They may not realize it yet but the current GAA hierarchy have the survival of the competition in their hands.Will they continue to watch over the corpse with the competition continuing as it's currently structured or will they show leadership and concern and do something constructive and far reaching about it.It can be a great opportunity to provide a terrific competition where all young men in all counties can aspire to playing at elite level competitively. ONdeDITCH (Limerick) - Posts: 873 - 10/04/2021 23:21:35 2336806 Link
Replying To realdub: "It would have to be across the board and we already have an AI club championship." Wouldn't have to be across the board as it would be a move to specifically to dissolve Dublin inter-county team to revive what will soon be a moribund competition. As I say, it won't happen. Much more likely is Dublin win 10 in a row with Kerry maybe nicking an odd one after that and Dublin winning another load of back to back titles. The GAA will do nothing, there'll be talk of splitting Dublin that will go nowhere and a number of fans and pundits will say 'the other counties need to have a look at themselves' One thing I've seen mentioned a few times that might happen is players who don't make the Dublin panel can play for other counties. So players from Meath, Kildale, Laois or wherever who are already psychologically (in a purely sporting sense) damaged from continuous hidings from Dublin, will then have the extra humiliation of not even making their own county panel as Dublin players rock up.to training and take their spot! Doesn't bode well. None of it is Dublin's fault of course but how much interest will even the Dubs have in it if it goes that way? People say get rid of the provincial championships but that is going to be the only show in town for most non Leinster counties soon as All Ireland chances recede ever further into the distance. London125 (UK) - Posts: 55 - 11/04/2021 08:49:56 2336824 Link
It will be interesting to see if the newly announced GAA Strategic Plan will investigate Amalgamated teams for the AI championship and also the splitting of Dublin.It seems fairly far reaching and inclusive from what's been announced.I wish them luck and courage in their endeavours.The outcome will be so interesting,its great that the new President has started the ball rolling already,well done to him. ONdeDITCH (Limerick) - Posts: 873 - 28/04/2021 20:16:04 2339201 Link
Bump Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1942 - 10/05/2021 22:16:20 2341010 Link
i wonder ggenuinely how long it will be before dublins all ireland wins barely register with people? if they do another 3 or 4 in a row can you imagine it being even noteworthy ? like celtic winning the scottish premier league without rangers those years barely got mentioned, i would think you would be struggling to fill croke park in that scenario. GAA will act when your only getting 25000 into a leinster final. that day is fast approaching dickie10 (UK) - Posts: 824 - 10/05/2021 22:56:03 2341025 Link
You're a bit premature,how do you think Dublin will do in the league,will they blood some new players? ONdeDITCH (Limerick) - Posts: 873 - 10/05/2021 23:43:06 2341030 Link
Replying To ONdeDITCH: "It will be interesting to see if the newly announced GAA Strategic Plan will investigate Amalgamated teams for the AI championship and also the splitting of Dublin.It seems fairly far reaching and inclusive from what's been announced.I wish them luck and courage in their endeavours.The outcome will be so interesting,its great that the new President has started the ball rolling already,well done to him." Would an Inter-Regional AI League Championship of say, only 10 teams (below), better 'level the playing field' and keep everyone interested ? Uls 3 regions (3 counties in each) West (UW) = Done, Derry, Tyr South (US) = Ferm, Cav, Mona East (UE) = Ant, Arm, Down. Muns 2 regions (3 counties in each) West (MW) = Kerr, Clar, Lime East (ME) = Cork, Tipp, Wat. Conn 2 regions (3 counties in each, incl Lond) North (CN) = Mayo, Slig, Leit South (CS) = Galw, Rosc, Lond. Lein 3 regions (with 3.3 or 4.3 counties in each, incl Dubs split in 3 to the 3 regions) North (LN) 4.3 = Lou, Mea, Long, Wmea, NDub Central (LC) 3.3 = Kild, Off, Lao, CentDub South (LS) 4.3 = Wick, Wex, Carl, Kilk, SDub. I could see most of the 10 regions being competitive - maybe, a small number of strong teams is best, like hurling ? Play the season as a League Championship (two year cycle) - 2 groups of 5 (draw at least 1 region from each Prov to each diversified group). 13-match regular season one year (twice v own group, once v other group); 14-match regular season the next year (once v own group, twice v other group). Teams play the 9 others three times over two years Top 6 of 10 based on one-year 13 or 14 match combined table - or all 27 over rolling 2 years - to 6-team KO (top 2 to AI SFs & 3v6, 4v5 QFs). I'd expect a final table ranking like this - 1 UW; 2 MW; 3 US; 4 CS; 5 CN; 6 LN; 7 ME; 8 UE; 9 LC; 10 LS. omahant (USA) - Posts: 3234 - 11/05/2021 05:13:40 2341038 Link
Replying To Galway9801: "Bump" "Dump" superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2842 - 11/05/2021 09:16:18 2341045 Link
Replying To Galway9801: "Yeah I've been following the gaa since 98 and the all Ireland has never been less competitive. Even during the 2000s tyrone only ever went one season unbeaten {03},while kerry only had two {04,09}. CiarraíMick is a very good poster, one of the more mature on this forum, not that that's hard (ahem) but what's happening re the dubs dominance is pretty worrying for the championship as a whole. It's pulling the pss to suggest otherwise." You know there's a difference between Tyrone in Ulster and Dublin in Leinster. More evenly matched in Ulster but Dublin stand alone in Leinster so they don't get a game until after Leinster Final. Saynothing (Tyrone)* - Posts: 2289 - 11/05/2021 16:40:28 2341139 Link
Why not go one further and sperate dublin by postal code, imagine how exciting Dublin 9 vs Dublin 8 would be DuhallowRed (Cork) - Posts: 310 - 11/05/2021 20:50:20 2341170 Link