To be honest everyone i know is still dyin from the weekend and we don't need to answer to all these petty arguments about the game and tyrone. We are the best team in Ireland and done it fair and square. Its ridiculous arguin about who got a yellow card and who didnt they didnt affect the result as no one was sent off. And all this moanin about some kerry man gettin nudged over on the way in those boys went out there psyched to the absolute eyeballs and left it all on the pitch. Anyone of them would apologise for something like that and wouldnt be like that in everyday life. But this was an all ireland final and they where charged thats why sam is sittin over the border now because we wanted it more and our boys give everything. Thought kerry fans where great the ones i met down there where very gracious. Maybe we where bragging a bit but it was all good banter and we deserved our braggin rights. Think theres a while lot of tripe on this that just sounds like sour grapes. this is the last message where i address this cos i'm gonna move on and keep celebratin and hopefully mickey has a few more tricks up his sleeve for 09 and we could be on the road to croker again. Proud of the boys and proud to be a Tyrone man and thanks to all those who congragulated us especiaaly other counties in Ulster who came down to support us in big numbers. We know how hard that is but that victory can be shared by all Ulster Tir Eoghain Abu! Lets enjoy the celebratin yeow!

redhanddefender (Tyrone) - Posts: 913 - 24/09/2008 15:43:19    106768

fear an chamain
County: Antrim
Posts: 3

Patrique, who are these best players in Antrim who won't play for the county team?

You would not know fear an Chamain, He could be referring to the Students coming from all over the North to live in the Holylands from autumn to summer and claim them for the Antrim county team judging by previous crazy posts.

mugsys_barber (Tyrone) - Posts: 2160 - 24/09/2008 15:49:11    106776

I accept that the game was always rough and ready - and the better for it - the gamesmanship was certainly not as prevalent though. But what it the best way to tackle it? I have put forward a suggestion. So should it be looked at at county level, national level, Congress or what. Have the GPA a key role to play? I would also point out that the problem isn't half as bad in hurling - there seems to be much more respect among players. Maybe its down to the fact that they know they are in possession of a fairly lethal weapon and are unwilling to do unto others cos they know it could be done unto them?! I really don't want to bring my young fella to his local club in a couple of years and hear the manager telling him to go out and get in the oppositions face or to go down like a ton of bricks when possible ........ if it happens, its next stop soccer/rugby club!

JayoCluxton (Dublin) - Posts: 2688 - 24/09/2008 16:04:56    106804

Good stuff as usual Jayo. I think the GAA took a huge kop out and lost the opportunity to address future issues in the here and now... with proper stewardship these issues could have been stomped out of Gaelic games for good...Galvin = Kop Out. He was captain of Kerry and as such the prime example for young supporters...his actions were rightly punished.. A great message to send. 6 Months and out of the Championship.. but this was reduced and he took part in the final. Opportunity lost.

A.O.M fiasco..... where's the rules to govern such actions...Brennan tells the players to basically start behaving! That was it!!!.... We need to have rules in place. If you dive or feign injury that's a yellow card or maybe even a sin bin offense. the game is changing and the GAA is doing very little to adapt with it. County managers are making the new rules.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 24/09/2008 16:23:13    106828

Think the answer might be in the last couple of lines of my post.

People will always appeal if theres an avenue open to them. Happens throughout society. One answer to this, like in society, would be to set the minimum punishment higher and never go above that minimum. They cannot challenge for a reduced ban if they get the minimum term. That is the only reason Galvin appealled. If he had been given 3 months he would not have been able to appeal. If the minimum was 6 months for abusing a ref and he got 6 months then he would not have been able to appeal.

Also, the offences should be described in greater detail. For instance, what is abusing a ref? What is physically abusing a ref? no contact X months, minimal contact y months, threatening Z months, Injurying (Z+X)(2Y) months. Contact with a ref's Notebook or a dictionary or a cookbook could be classed as no contact or threatening behavior and the punishment would be clearly there in the rules. Only joking now but I would have been happy if Galvins ban had been upheld BUT if the minimum punishment had been bigger in the first place....

Diving (4Y + 2X)/ZXY

etc etc.

thykingdomcome (Kerry) - Posts: 1206 - 24/09/2008 19:34:37    107051

The students terrorising the Holylands are not deserving of a place in the association.

Kevin McGourty, TWICE Sigerson Player of the Tournament, not in the county team. Brian McFaul, Johnny McIntosh, Winker, a few other Gall's, Cargin, and Gorts lads, how long have you got?

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 24/09/2008 22:04:25    107137