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Im happy for Andy to stay on for next year but Colm O'Rourke needs to take the Job in the next few years if you ask me, Done an unbelievable job with Simonstown winning 2 keegans, managed st.pats college of Navan for what seems like forever, the guy is a meath Legend and knows the game inside out.

redser123 (Meath) - Posts: 403 - 22/11/2020 21:21:36    2313464

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Replying To Young_gael:  "Dont get me wrong Im with you on all those points, every aingle one, but personally I dont see the credible alternative to McEntee. The only credible alternative in my eyes would be a prominent manager from outsude the county and im not sure people are prepared for that conversation."
What about Colm O'Rourke?

Managers that I would like (outside county) would be:

Tony McEntee (ex crossmaglen manager)
Jim McGuinness (highly unlikely)
Pat Gilroy (highly unlikely)
Paul Galvin (has Meath relatives, I know he's done nothing in management)
Malachy O'Rourke

Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1319 - 22/11/2020 21:33:44    2313488

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Replying To Crinigan:  "What about Colm O'Rourke?

Managers that I would like (outside county) would be:

Tony McEntee (ex crossmaglen manager)
Jim McGuinness (highly unlikely)
Pat Gilroy (highly unlikely)
Paul Galvin (has Meath relatives, I know he's done nothing in management)
Malachy O'Rourke"
Still feel andy should be given at least another year as he has made progress with this team completely rebuilding the squad that was left from the previous managment for the exceptions of keoghan and menton adding in youth.

In regards to possible managers replacing andy in the future these would be my preferences with some highly unlikely to get the job but if i was given the job of finding the next manager this would be my go to list:

1. Jim mcguiness
2. Mickey harte
3. Stephen Rochford
4. Malachy o rourke
5. Cian o neill

I feel any of those 5 managers could help take meath on to the next level

Meath4Sam2020 (Meath) - Posts: 132 - 22/11/2020 21:53:02    2313509

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Malachy O'Rourke is a top manger , he wouldn't fool around with the goalkeeper issues we are having or having for the last few years !

WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 876 - 22/11/2020 22:07:59    2313523

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Replying To Meath4Sam2020:  "Still feel andy should be given at least another year as he has made progress with this team completely rebuilding the squad that was left from the previous managment for the exceptions of keoghan and menton adding in youth.

In regards to possible managers replacing andy in the future these would be my preferences with some highly unlikely to get the job but if i was given the job of finding the next manager this would be my go to list:

1. Jim mcguiness
2. Mickey harte
3. Stephen Rochford
4. Malachy o rourke
5. Cian o neill

I feel any of those 5 managers could help take meath on to the next level"
Good shouts there. Rochford and O'Neil underrated. O'Neil been with a bit too many counties for my taste though.

Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1319 - 22/11/2020 22:11:08    2313527

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Think it's time the gaa takes a look at themselves. Given cavan gaa's success today it makes me wonder if we could somehow push to be moved into the ulster championship it might be better for the future of the game in our county. Lads may think I'm joking but look at Galway in the hurling, has brought them on leaps and bounds.

If we could push for this it could allow us to rebuild, and in time challenge for ulster's and all Ireland's.

LoyalRoyal66 (Meath) - Posts: 82 - 22/11/2020 22:24:54    2313538

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Replying To Crinigan:  "Good shouts there. Rochford and O'Neil underrated. O'Neil been with a bit too many counties for my taste though."
Yeah o neill has been around a good few county set ups but i feel he is a good coach and could help us progress on as kikdare done ok during his time at the helm. I really rate Rochford he has the pedgree and know how to make us into a top side in my eyes as his experience with two of the powerhouses in mayo and donegal should translate into our young squad getting behind his ideas due to his credentials in the game.

Any mangers in the club game worth talking about?

Meath4Sam2020 (Meath) - Posts: 132 - 22/11/2020 22:39:56    2313551

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I do think Andy has earned the chance next. I know Saturday was an absolute disaster but I'm sorry we just can't judge performances off Dublin. Maybe my tune will change in 2 weeks. But I expect Dublin to destroy Cavan. Look at counties in and around division 2 that have had championship successes. Roscommon, Cavan, Tipperary, Monaghan, even Galway. All these counties have won provincial titles and all of them that played Dublin in the championship got destroyed. It's a depressing situation but if we continue to judge ourselves against Dublin we will continue to look for short term gains to get there that will undermine any success. The key is to try get to a division 1 level where we actually stay in division 1. Andy deserves another year to try get this team back to division 1, unfortunately if things do go wrong there are no options inside the county it seems

LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1462 - 22/11/2020 23:17:07    2313571

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Cian o neill who did nothing with Kildare and even less with Cork

Go home you're drunk folks

brian (Meath) - Posts: 1954 - 22/11/2020 23:26:34    2313576

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Seems to be a few disgruntled squad players on here, just to say it looks from the outside that you are improving despite what your say about keeper etc. On the coaching front no need to worry about Nally strong word here he's coming back to Louth and why wouldn't he listening to this.

Chubby (Louth) - Posts: 102 - 23/11/2020 08:13:36    2313624

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Replying To Crinigan:  "Good shouts there. Rochford and O'Neil underrated. O'Neil been with a bit too many counties for my taste though."
i don't blame the management for alot of Saturday actually , when players look so off the pace there's more to it than that , i don't know if they were genuinely tired after the kildare display , huge emphasis on cillian o sullivan acting as the main ball carrier which has been the same for years now , it's fine against average teams but not against Dublin . Our full forward line was hyped to be the greatest since the eighties which simply isn't true and where the management can take blame is the goalkeeping situation , same problem we had in the super eights .

For me now it's about what will they take from this , we aren't any closer to closing the gap on Dublin even though we are improving. It's not all doom and gloom though and league performances have suggested that ,
This will be an easy all -Ireland for Dublin to win .

meath1987 (Meath) - Posts: 127 - 23/11/2020 09:36:01    2313651

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Replying To Crinigan:  "What about Colm O'Rourke?

Managers that I would like (outside county) would be:

Tony McEntee (ex crossmaglen manager)
Jim McGuinness (highly unlikely)
Pat Gilroy (highly unlikely)
Paul Galvin (has Meath relatives, I know he's done nothing in management)
Malachy O'Rourke"
I would definitely entertain the idea of C'O'R. One of our own and very highly rated. But look, people have been arguing for him since the mid-00's. Maybe the job isnt for him, and he's happier elsewhere.

McGuinness yes.

Gilroy: personally Id be happy to go for him, but he might not be a fit for many in Meath.

Galvin: Not enough experience. The Wexford episode won't help his career.

Malachy O'Rourke: yes.

Tony McEntee: no.

Young_gael (Meath) - Posts: 589 - 23/11/2020 09:51:36    2313659

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How about trying to everse the absolutely reckless decision 10 years ago of replacing Eamon O'Brien. A great Meath football man and a key part to Sean Boylan's success. A time when he had our goalkeeper driven the ball 80 yards to Joe Sheridan on the 40 and straight on the attack. Note this was pre-mark rule. What stood out for me yesterday, was the ability of Cavan and Tipperary fielding superbly from kickouts at crucial moments in the game. Our half forwards are all below 6ft and not good fielders. The also played direct ball into full forward lines. These were all traits of successful Meath teams over the years which we have sadly moved away from.

winatallcost (Meath) - Posts: 511 - 23/11/2020 09:59:24    2313666

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Replying To Chubby:  "Seems to be a few disgruntled squad players on here, just to say it looks from the outside that you are improving despite what your say about keeper etc. On the coaching front no need to worry about Nally strong word here he's coming back to Louth and why wouldn't he listening to this."
I highly doubt there's any players reading any of this stuff Chubby. But if they are, more power to them. We are living in a democracy after all. Nally is a big reason why Meath have improved, and if he goes back to Louth, your gain. Meath by-and-large is happy with the progress made but we demand more than what we seen on saturday, and given our available manpower and resources and tradition, a mickey mouse show wont be tolerated here. On that note, all the best moving forward.

Young_gael (Meath) - Posts: 589 - 23/11/2020 10:03:56    2313671

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Replying To Young_gael:  "I would definitely entertain the idea of C'O'R. One of our own and very highly rated. But look, people have been arguing for him since the mid-00's. Maybe the job isnt for him, and he's happier elsewhere.

McGuinness yes.

Gilroy: personally Id be happy to go for him, but he might not be a fit for many in Meath.

Galvin: Not enough experience. The Wexford episode won't help his career.

Malachy O'Rourke: yes.

Tony McEntee: no."
Colm O Rourke ?

meath87889699 (Meath) - Posts: 41 - 23/11/2020 10:15:00    2313691

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Replying To Young_gael:  "I would definitely entertain the idea of C'O'R. One of our own and very highly rated. But look, people have been arguing for him since the mid-00's. Maybe the job isnt for him, and he's happier elsewhere.

McGuinness yes.

Gilroy: personally Id be happy to go for him, but he might not be a fit for many in Meath.

Galvin: Not enough experience. The Wexford episode won't help his career.

Malachy O'Rourke: yes.

Tony McEntee: no."
O'Rourke would rather stand up in the media box in front of the cameras and criticise than commit to the job.

Why dont we look at trying to get one of the Dublin backroom team coachs in as lets be honest they seem to know what works and what dosnt.

Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 631 - 23/11/2020 10:30:22    2313710

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Replying To winatallcost:  "How about trying to everse the absolutely reckless decision 10 years ago of replacing Eamon O'Brien. A great Meath football man and a key part to Sean Boylan's success. A time when he had our goalkeeper driven the ball 80 yards to Joe Sheridan on the 40 and straight on the attack. Note this was pre-mark rule. What stood out for me yesterday, was the ability of Cavan and Tipperary fielding superbly from kickouts at crucial moments in the game. Our half forwards are all below 6ft and not good fielders. The also played direct ball into full forward lines. These were all traits of successful Meath teams over the years which we have sadly moved away from."
Good point.

One of disappointments for us this year is we basically ignored the advanced mark. I would have thought it would suit our traditional game but we seemed to ignore it completely and didn't try to take advantage of it like Donegal did for eg.

Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1319 - 23/11/2020 10:44:54    2313732

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Replying To Crinigan:  "Good point.

One of disappointments for us this year is we basically ignored the advanced mark. I would have thought it would suit our traditional game but we seemed to ignore it completely and didn't try to take advantage of it like Donegal did for eg."
As an aside, its hard to believe that for such a long time Meath teams were made up almost universally of lads of 6 foot height plus.
Perfectly suited to the mark. In fact you look at the 88 team in the pre-match pic before the final vs. Cork, and only McCabe and Flynn were under 6', with the mainstay 6'2-6'4 and tanks. Fast forward thirty years and we're a team of fliers with maybe five or six lads hitting 6'3. Amazing how times change. The mark atm just doesent suit the players at disposal.

Young_gael (Meath) - Posts: 589 - 23/11/2020 11:00:34    2313761

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Replying To LoyalRoyal66:  "Think it's time the gaa takes a look at themselves. Given cavan gaa's success today it makes me wonder if we could somehow push to be moved into the ulster championship it might be better for the future of the game in our county. Lads may think I'm joking but look at Galway in the hurling, has brought them on leaps and bounds.

If we could push for this it could allow us to rebuild, and in time challenge for ulster's and all Ireland's."
sweet jezuz aris

Thelongwoodslasher (Meath) - Posts: 385 - 23/11/2020 11:05:06    2313767

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Replying To Irish_downunder:  "O'Rourke would rather stand up in the media box in front of the cameras and criticise than commit to the job.

Why dont we look at trying to get one of the Dublin backroom team coachs in as lets be honest they seem to know what works and what dosnt."
This thing of painting Colm O'Rourke as a media man only is untrue. Colm is an excellent club person and managed Simonstown juniors this year. He knows Meath club football inside out and his knowledge of the game is exceptional. He also happens to be one of our most decorated and greatest ever players. Unfortunately he is unlikely to be interested or get the job.

winatallcost (Meath) - Posts: 511 - 23/11/2020 11:11:40    2313785

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