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Well Done Cork!

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Replying To Fionn:  "Looks like you are gonna argue your case until Xmas - if you say something to yourself long enough, sooner or later you will believe it.. lol
kerry took Cork for granted no matter how many times you so try to convince others otherwise.
Once again thou doth protest too much.... ;o)
Just like winning an All Ireland without winning your provincial...
What about your pals comment...???
If a team wins their provincial championship and win an allireland semifinal and final then that's still 100% a legitimate allireland.

As for Monaghan, yes Monaghan did think the game was won and didnt expect Cavan to come back at them, until it was too late. And the farney fans were disgusted with Banty's tactics also... I spoke to an ex player and he was fuming...!
Got beat by showing Cavan too much respect... well that made me laugh.... lol

Anyway, I am sure you will want the last comment like always, so I will move on..... ;o)
Oh yes he will, oh no he wont.... LOL."
Whatever makes you happy Fionn.However you were the one that gave Cork no chance not me or a lot of Kerry people. Its not important anyway. You are obsessed with Kerry s loss. They were beaten end of. If they played Cork again next weekend the same could happen again. That's life. Believe it or not but the favourites don't always win and when they don't there does nt always have to be strange reasons. By your synopsis if Kerry had nt thought about Dublin they D have beaten Cork easily. Again I say you ré being unfair to Cork.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3678 - 10/11/2020 22:37:42    2307409

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Does anyone know when the last time was that a division 3 team knocked the division 1 champions out of the Championship ?
Must be a fair while now ?

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 11/11/2020 07:04:57    2307428

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Replying To catch22:  "Does anyone know when the last time was that a division 3 team knocked the division 1 champions out of the Championship ?
Must be a fair while now ?"
Oh I'd say it happens a bit. I think in 2016 Tipperary were div 3 when they knocked out Cork who were div 1

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3678 - 11/11/2020 09:36:33    2307442

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I think Longford were in div 3 when they beat Mayo 10 yrs ago or so also. Longford also beat Derry in recent times too but not sure we're Derry div 1 then. Limerick beat Cork 2003 and think they were div 3 or 4 (but not certain). However it shows the unfairness of the gaa to div 3 or 4 teams. They bringing in no back door for them unless they reach provincial finals.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3678 - 11/11/2020 09:45:22    2307447

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To be honest I think there was too much being made of Cork being in div 3.i never considered them a div 3 team. They coasted through and won every game handy. They are div 2 now. It's funny that Mayo are being heralded as possible winners of Sam and technically they are same division as Cork. In 2 months time both playing division 2 football. Mickey Harte claimed a few years ago a div 2 team can't win Sam. When it was pointed out to him Tyrone were div 2 he stated no we re promoted so we are div 1 altho that a may and they would be playing div 1 till following Jan. Just a bit of useless info for you all to mull over lol.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3678 - 11/11/2020 09:54:36    2307449

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "Whatever makes you happy Fionn.However you were the one that gave Cork no chance not me or a lot of Kerry people. Its not important anyway. You are obsessed with Kerry s loss. They were beaten end of. If they played Cork again next weekend the same could happen again. That's life. Believe it or not but the favourites don't always win and when they don't there does nt always have to be strange reasons. By your synopsis if Kerry had nt thought about Dublin they D have beaten Cork easily. Again I say you ré being unfair to Cork."
Mick fíonn is like a child who's got at the sugar since we lost on sunday, at this rate he'll be burned out by the 19th of December and he'll miss the kluck collecting number 6 :-)

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 11/11/2020 10:19:54    2307460

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Mick fíonn is like a child who's got at the sugar since we lost on sunday, at this rate he'll be burned out by the 19th of December and he'll miss the kluck collecting number 6 :-)"
Well in fairness K Boy Fionn is only giving his opinion and he believes in it so that's fair enough. If we all agreed on everything it would be a sad world.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3678 - 11/11/2020 11:17:36    2307492

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Kerry are better than Cork. End of.

It was a complete balls up of epic proportions in my honest opinion

Cork finished on zero pts in the Super 8s last year on close to -20 pts difference.

Kerry topped their group against Division 1 opponents and got a good result against a 14 man Dublin and could have won

It was a horror show performance from Kerry and Corks utterly rudimentary tactics being good enough says it all.

It was a tactical mistake from the sideline combined with scandously missed opportunities and a complete lack of game intelligence in bad conditions.

You'd also have to question Kerry regarding their temperament and deliberate fouling that resulted in black cards. Cork were playing against 14 men for a sizeable portion of the game

It was a very bad night at the office for numerous reasons

One flukey long ball in exposed it all.. that again speaks clearly enough of the position Kerry had put themselves in.

Massive opportunity missed for Kerry in 2020 but listen it's bizarre circumstances to be playing football in.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 11/11/2020 11:33:01    2307498

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Kerry are better than Cork. End of.

It was a complete balls up of epic proportions in my honest opinion

Cork finished on zero pts in the Super 8s last year on close to -20 pts difference.

Kerry topped their group against Division 1 opponents and got a good result against a 14 man Dublin and could have won

It was a horror show performance from Kerry and Corks utterly rudimentary tactics being good enough says it all.

It was a tactical mistake from the sideline combined with scandously missed opportunities and a complete lack of game intelligence in bad conditions.

You'd also have to question Kerry regarding their temperament and deliberate fouling that resulted in black cards. Cork were playing against 14 men for a sizeable portion of the game

It was a very bad night at the office for numerous reasons

One flukey long ball in exposed it all.. that again speaks clearly enough of the position Kerry had put themselves in.

Massive opportunity missed for Kerry in 2020 but listen it's bizarre circumstances to be playing football in."
I would agree Jimbo in most of what you say but we all get those type of days when the bit of luck goes against you. I agree with you on the silly fouling although I did nt think Morans was a black card (it's ironic if he took a black card v Murchan last year who knows) but young Buckley was very silly and committed two foils in the one run. Yes big opportunity gone for Kerry this year but next year won't be long coming

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3678 - 11/11/2020 12:33:51    2307541

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "Well in fairness K Boy Fionn is only giving his opinion and he believes in it so that's fair enough. If we all agreed on everything it would be a sad world."
Ah look fíonn is probably a young lad mick and a bit excited about kerry being out, santa came early to him this year.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 11/11/2020 13:11:27    2307565

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "Oh I'd say it happens a bit. I think in 2016 Tipperary were div 3 when they knocked out Cork who were div 1"
That's fair enough but Cork weren't Div 1 Champions in 2016 though. Seems like it could be a bit longer than that.

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 11/11/2020 13:22:16    2307572

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You can imagine the reaction if Fitzmaurice pulled off such a master stroke

Big question mark over Peter Keane if you ask me

But that's only my take on it

If Dessie setup like like that against Meath who would easily give Cork a very good game of it, and in my opinion maybe even a little bit better than Cork, the sharks in the media would be smelling blood.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 11/11/2020 13:31:57    2307579

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Replying To catch22:  "That's fair enough but Cork weren't Div 1 Champions in 2016 though. Seems like it could be a bit longer than that."
Sorry I misread your comment. I though you meant div 1 team not champs. Answer to that question is I don't know but would agree i doubt if it happened too often. Maybe never.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3678 - 11/11/2020 13:35:55    2307583

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Replying To jimbodub:  "You can imagine the reaction if Fitzmaurice pulled off such a master stroke

Big question mark over Peter Keane if you ask me

But that's only my take on it

If Dessie setup like like that against Meath who would easily give Cork a very good game of it, and in my opinion maybe even a little bit better than Cork, the sharks in the media would be smelling blood."
You'll find out how good Cork are in a few weeks jimbo when they play Tipp in the munster final, both teams operated in div 3 this year and both have had a bit of underage success over the last 8-9 years as well.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 11/11/2020 14:13:00    2307607

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Replying To jimbodub:  "You can imagine the reaction if Fitzmaurice pulled off such a master stroke

Big question mark over Peter Keane if you ask me

But that's only my take on it

If Dessie setup like like that against Meath who would easily give Cork a very good game of it, and in my opinion maybe even a little bit better than Cork, the sharks in the media would be smelling blood."
Of course. Yes and many in Kerry not one bit happy with Keane s set up. In fairness we were nt happy before game with the team line out. About Fitzmaurice. Éamonn was slated after 2017 semi final draw with Mayo for mot having a sweeper. In replay he picked a young Tom Ó Sullivan at corner forward to play him as an extra defender with loads of pace. Kerry lost and Fitzmaurice was lambasted. Like a man said once "a winner has a thousand father's a loser is an orphan"

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3678 - 11/11/2020 14:13:14    2307608

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "Sorry I misread your comment. I though you meant div 1 team not champs. Answer to that question is I don't know but would agree i doubt if it happened too often. Maybe never."
No problem, it's a tough one alright and I don't know if it has happened. Needless to say it's not something that happens often. I'd imagine PK and Co will mull over this one for a fair while though.

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 11/11/2020 16:28:26    2307668

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Replying To catch22:  "No problem, it's a tough one alright and I don't know if it has happened. Needless to say it's not something that happens often. I'd imagine PK and Co will mull over this one for a fair while though."
I have no doubt they will.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3678 - 11/11/2020 17:57:22    2307704

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Iv just heard that Mark Keane might miss the munster final against Tipp because he has to go back to his club in Australia, I thought Cork would have him for the whole championship.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 12/11/2020 10:15:19    2307886

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Iv just heard that Mark Keane might miss the munster final against Tipp because he has to go back to his club in Australia, I thought Cork would have him for the whole championship."
Ha that's madness if true. Came to Ireland for a half an hour to down the Kingdom and fecked back off to Australia :)

ConnollyDub (Dublin) - Posts: 2007 - 12/11/2020 10:30:27    2307893

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Replying To ConnollyDub:  "Ha that's madness if true. Came to Ireland for a half an hour to down the Kingdom and fecked back off to Australia :)"
Sure you couldn't be up to those rebels :-)

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 12/11/2020 11:03:52    2307901

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