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So you have four examples?
oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1380 - 15/01/2023 16:05:17 2452538 Link 0 |
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I said the card was technically correct and on the same basis so was Paudie Clifford's (deliberate contact with face/eye area). It is just my opinion that in both cases the contact was so minimal that the ref might have used his discretion as refs often do. The high tackle by the Fossa defender getting only a yellow was very lenient compared to the other two. The elbow to P. Clifford's face was dangerous and nasty. I agree that the Fossa player throwing himself to the ground in the first red does not change the fact that contact was made but the dive was almost as embarrassing as Paudie's speech. sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 684 - 15/01/2023 16:28:45 2452542 Link 4 |
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It's one of the greatest things about the GAA that fellas from even the smallest club can be senior inter county football
TheGreatRambo (Monaghan) - Posts: 79 - 15/01/2023 16:37:09 2452546 Link 3 |
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I think speeches have become a joke at this stage. Too many of them are longwinded and it seems everyone and anyone is mentioned in them. bruffgael (Limerick) - Posts: 144 - 15/01/2023 16:41:02 2452548 Link 1 |
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When Paddy Doherty of Down accepted Sam after the 1961 All-Ireland final his entire speech consisted of bruffgael (Limerick) - Posts: 144 - 15/01/2023 16:43:51 2452549 Link 1 |
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I think you're right they should go. Maybe Paudie has done some service if his self-serving dirge hastens the end of the tradition.
sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 684 - 15/01/2023 16:52:09 2452550 Link 2 |
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Maybe stick to playing football which he is good at.
ninjasmyth (Louth) - Posts: 716 - 15/01/2023 17:17:44 2452554 Link 0 |
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I agree Paudie was wrong in His speech but Fossa are a junior club. They are a tiny club. The Cliffords have brought them on. You think the club should be punished cos they have all Ireland winners.
CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3676 - 15/01/2023 17:43:43 2452559 Link 0 |
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How long will it take before Paudie Clifford is forced to eat humble pie and apologize for his rant ? eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1658 - 15/01/2023 17:45:05 2452560 Link 2 |
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It's been mentioned before but the whole set up in Kerry while works for them needs looked at as far as who plays in the provincial / All Ireland series. Basically team 9 from Kerry playing intermediate club versus team 17 / 18 from Tyrone.
benched (Tyrone) - Posts: 534 - 15/01/2023 17:58:40 2452564 Link 0 |
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Number of cards didn't reflect the nature of the game. Doubt the one that led to the afters would have been given had your man not dived like he'd been hit by a sniper. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2557 - 15/01/2023 18:06:43 2452565 Link 2 |
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Hard for me to comment on Fossa as a Junior club. However there is an issue not necessarily of Kerry's making. Counties of Kerry's size across the country have at least 16, some 20 senior clubs. Kerry have only 8, so their system is an outlier. So from Kerry we have club ranked number 9 progressing to the intermediate club series to meet teams from similar counties ranked 17 to 21. It's not so cleat at junior but obviously effects the level playing field too.
sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 684 - 15/01/2023 18:13:12 2452568 Link 1 |
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If the Tyrone team focused on playing football they would probably have won. They were a better footballing team but the first red card was unbelievable. To strike a player in the face off the ball was so stupid. Very difficult after that to double mark Clifford with a man less on the pitch. Your other point is really for another day and could easily be seen as sour grapes. Every county makes its own rules for it's championship format. Tyrone could follow Kerry's example if they wished
eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1658 - 15/01/2023 18:14:38 2452570 Link 1 |
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Maybe its the whole setup in Tryrone that needs looking at
Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1909 - 15/01/2023 18:16:17 2452571 Link 1 |
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Clifford was sent off. How could he accept the cup as he was suspended. Is this rule changed. It used to be that if winning captain was sent off then he could not accept trophy at end of match
Jack L (None) - Posts: 3099 - 15/01/2023 18:23:27 2452575 Link 0 |
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I hold my hands up if each county can make its own championship rules it becomes a lobsided and unfair competition. If Fossa is a junior club and plays junior players - fair enough, but in other counties this cannot happen and in other codes it wouldn't happen, because it is blatantly unfair.
arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4896 - 15/01/2023 18:23:46 2452576 Link 0 |
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Nil to do with Tyrone. While Kerry's internal club system, is their own business, having their 9th ranked club in the intermediate series against teams ranked 17 to 21 in nearly all other counties is a problem that needs attention
sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 684 - 15/01/2023 18:25:03 2452577 Link 1 |
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Ahh yes but if that is a Junior club how can it play Senior players? Its a nonsense and to make matters worse he has already competed in at Senior club level in other counties thats cheating.
arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4896 - 15/01/2023 18:26:29 2452578 Link 0 |
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People need to start looking at things from Paudi side. Paudi could have lost his top row of teeth 5 minutes earlier so forgive him for still being ragging in his speech. It might be a rule that a player sent off can't lift cup but so is a team being fined £80 for every minute they run over the 15 minute break. Unused rules happen all the time.
Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2014 - 15/01/2023 18:40:27 2452581 Link 7 |
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Paudie Clifford gave a great performance and his speech was refreshing in that for once someone told the truth. Officiating was terrible. Obvious targeting of the Cliffords ignored and sent both of them off for frivolous reasons at best. And when David pushed back all Tyrone players pilled in . This was a plan which backfired since they did it when they needed to keep the game flowing . Ashrules (Dublin) - Posts: 518 - 15/01/2023 18:43:00 2452583 Link 6 |