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Replying To zinny: "I don't think any side of the debate has a monopoly on childish and ill-though out responses. Some people are driven by emotions and thats fair enough as the virus could have effected them personally more than others. My issue is with the fact that even now people cannot see that what the country went through was not how things need to be in the future if the health authorities and the government have got it right. Our health lads like to link ourselves to NZ and while we are not there yet, it is where they want to get to. So with that in mind its worth looking at the below. Rugby is like the GAA to Ireland. This is about club and school rugby not professionals so is very relevant. NZ will continue to have social distancing in this time but yet here people cannot understand how the concept of contact sport and social distancing can co-exist.
https://www.nzrugby.co.nz/news-and-events/covid-19/
I would also bet that the GAA in Australia and NZ will be back up running very soon as well. People can say they are ahead of us in terms of controlling the virus but is that not where we want to be as well, why is it that hard to believe that Ireland may get there as well?" He replied to me numerous times without reading my posts properly. Same with people on twitter. They are dying to pidgeon hole people. They should be called out.
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Replying To TheFlaker: "You have fairly changed your tone on this! Gone from childish responses to posters who said there probably won't be a championship to now agreeing wholeheartedly with the same type of posts." I don't know what you mean. You probably have me mixed up with someone else.
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Replying To Trump2020: "I don't know what you mean. You probably have me mixed up with someone else." Probably has you mixed up with Donald ;)
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Replying To Trump2020: "I don't know what you mean. You probably have me mixed up with someone else." Your name is Trump, sure everything you post is outlandish! ;)
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7885 - 24/05/2020 12:17:36
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Replying To TheFlaker: "Your name is Trump, sure everything you post is outlandish! ;)" Ah but sure even a broken clock is right twice a day!
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Replying To Trump2020: "Ah but sure even a broken clock is right twice a day!" Ha indeed!!
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7885 - 24/05/2020 14:09:40
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I think this post belongs on this one
Great news yesterday with no deaths recorded. It's always a bit lower on Mondays though as weekend statistics need to be collated fully. It'll probably be next Monday before we see any fallout from the last lockdown restriction being lifted as well. But it was still a very welcome piece of news all the same.
Hopefully everyone can stick at it now. I see some people on social media advocating a return to normality quicker than planned. e.g. Colm Parkinson. But I still think we need to be careful. If we opened up GAA facilities do you think the vast majority would use them responsibly in accordance with the rules? You'd like to think they would, but I have some doubts.
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I am still not happy with the information that is given out daily, the key thing now is where the new cases are coming from, is it the community or close contacts or even imported. Dr Tony doesn't seem to even know but he says it could be as much as 50% coming from the community and if thats the case then the question is why?
I think the whole thing of opening up the GAA pitches is a bit false to be honest. I am not saying that they shouldn't be opened but lets not hide what people really mean with the talk of this the GAA pitch being the heart of the community stuff and somehow using a walking track around it is the be all and end all. Its about opening the pitch up for use for training again.
The GAA will have to change their stance but people should be honest about what they are asking for so that there is guidance for clubs and rules they can follow. Its not hard to do - have the club maintain a roster of who would be there and the times and just ensure all the other facilities are closed. I can meet up with my three other mates in any field or park or beach and as long as I follow the rules what is the issue. The pitch closure makes no sense at this stage.
I agree you will get some people who won't follow rules but I don't think that opening the pitch will change their mindset i.e. they are not following them now anyway.
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Replying To zinny: "I think this post belongs on this one
Great news yesterday with no deaths recorded. It's always a bit lower on Mondays though as weekend statistics need to be collated fully. It'll probably be next Monday before we see any fallout from the last lockdown restriction being lifted as well. But it was still a very welcome piece of news all the same.
Hopefully everyone can stick at it now. I see some people on social media advocating a return to normality quicker than planned. e.g. Colm Parkinson. But I still think we need to be careful. If we opened up GAA facilities do you think the vast majority would use them responsibly in accordance with the rules? You'd like to think they would, but I have some doubts.
Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 6784 - 26/05/2020 10:29:32 2279211
I am still not happy with the information that is given out daily, the key thing now is where the new cases are coming from, is it the community or close contacts or even imported. Dr Tony doesn't seem to even know but he says it could be as much as 50% coming from the community and if thats the case then the question is why?
I think the whole thing of opening up the GAA pitches is a bit false to be honest. I am not saying that they shouldn't be opened but lets not hide what people really mean with the talk of this the GAA pitch being the heart of the community stuff and somehow using a walking track around it is the be all and end all. Its about opening the pitch up for use for training again.
The GAA will have to change their stance but people should be honest about what they are asking for so that there is guidance for clubs and rules they can follow. Its not hard to do - have the club maintain a roster of who would be there and the times and just ensure all the other facilities are closed. I can meet up with my three other mates in any field or park or beach and as long as I follow the rules what is the issue. The pitch closure makes no sense at this stage.
I agree you will get some people who won't follow rules but I don't think that opening the pitch will change their mindset i.e. they are not following them now anyway." Yeah I think it's going to harder for the GAA to prohibit activity on GAA grounds as you say, when people are allowed to meet up in parks in groups of 4 and also with the numbers looking better. But how long would it be before there were large groups of players at different age levels collectively training? Would everyone obey the rules?
I totally get that people need some encouragement, and a wee bit of normality in terms of getting back onto the pitch would be a real boost. Jeez there'll be lads like young calves being let out into a field for the first time! But we still need to be careful and listen to the health advice.
Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9116 - 27/05/2020 10:59:53
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Replying To Lockjaw: "Yeah I think it's going to harder for the GAA to prohibit activity on GAA grounds as you say, when people are allowed to meet up in parks in groups of 4 and also with the numbers looking better. But how long would it be before there were large groups of players at different age levels collectively training? Would everyone obey the rules?
I totally get that people need some encouragement, and a wee bit of normality in terms of getting back onto the pitch would be a real boost. Jeez there'll be lads like young calves being let out into a field for the first time! But we still need to be careful and listen to the health advice." It'll be interesting to see if they wear masks while in these parks.
Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2113 - 27/05/2020 13:01:21
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Replying To Trump2020: "It'll be interesting to see if they wear masks while in these parks." The message on facemasks in Ireland has been a complete mess, I cannot understand why the west was so reluctant to embrace the who thing, even now as experiments have show that they are effective in preventing you giving and receiving droplets. As expert said, the worst facemask is better then no facemask.
zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1800 - 27/05/2020 13:44:15
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Replying To zinny: "The message on facemasks in Ireland has been a complete mess, I cannot understand why the west was so reluctant to embrace the who thing, even now as experiments have show that they are effective in preventing you giving and receiving droplets. As expert said, the worst facemask is better then no facemask." Yeah I was just saying that to the wife last night. Surely after what, 12 weeks there should be a consistent message about face mask wearing in public. Even if it only reduces risk by 25% why would we not do it?
Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9116 - 27/05/2020 14:39:03
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Warm weather wouldn't be entice people to wear a face mask.. No matter necessary it may be.
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Replying To FoolsGold: "Warm weather wouldn't be entice people to wear a face mask.. No matter necessary it may be." Seriously now, anyone not wearing one just because the weather is hot, needs a kick in the arse and to be told to cop on.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7337 - 27/05/2020 19:10:39
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Replying To zinny: "The message on facemasks in Ireland has been a complete mess, I cannot understand why the west was so reluctant to embrace the who thing, even now as experiments have show that they are effective in preventing you giving and receiving droplets. As expert said, the worst facemask is better then no facemask." Amen to that. I try to hedge the odds in my favor hence I wear one.
Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2113 - 27/05/2020 19:14:19
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Replying To GreenandRed: "Seriously now, anyone not wearing one just because the weather is hot, needs a kick in the arse and to be told to cop on." Ha ha ha. Ireland too hot? I don't hear that too often.
Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2113 - 27/05/2020 19:22:54
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Replying To GreenandRed: "Seriously now, anyone not wearing one just because the weather is hot, needs a kick in the arse and to be told to cop on." Many think it's ending with low cases, oblivious to a second wave.
FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2763 - 27/05/2020 19:47:49
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Replying To zinny: "The message on facemasks in Ireland has been a complete mess, I cannot understand why the west was so reluctant to embrace the who thing, even now as experiments have show that they are effective in preventing you giving and receiving droplets. As expert said, the worst facemask is better then no facemask." I dont know what expert you're quoting there but there are plenty of other experts who would have a very different opinion. The WHO itself does not have a clear message on mask wearing because opinions are divided. On their website under "advice for the public" it says......" If you are healthy you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with Covid 19. Wear a mask if you are coughing or sneezing. Masks are effective only when used in combination with frequent handwashing with alcohol-based hand rub or soap and water."
PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1902 - 27/05/2020 20:02:58
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Replying To PoolSturgeon: "I dont know what expert you're quoting there but there are plenty of other experts who would have a very different opinion. The WHO itself does not have a clear message on mask wearing because opinions are divided. On their website under "advice for the public" it says......" If you are healthy you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with Covid 19. Wear a mask if you are coughing or sneezing. Masks are effective only when used in combination with frequent handwashing with alcohol-based hand rub or soap and water."" I'd rather err on the side of caution. I'll wear one.
Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2113 - 27/05/2020 21:45:08
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Replying To FoolsGold: "Many think it's ending with low cases, oblivious to a second wave." They might end up CAUSING a second wave.
Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2113 - 27/05/2020 21:47:02
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Replying To FoolsGold: "Many think it's ending with low cases, oblivious to a second wave." Yeah I think there's a big fear that recent low numbers, while obviously great, are lulling people into a false sense of security.
We'll see how things pan out but erring on the side of caution would seem to be the most prudent approach.
I see South Korea had another cluster in the last day or so. So it would appear that while although we can gain some form of control, the virus is by no means eliminated.
Reminds me of an old ominous quote, "we haven't gone away you know..."
Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9116 - 27/05/2020 21:57:41
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