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The Corona Virus And Possible Effects To GAA Matches

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Replying To zinny:  "To be honest there is nothing in this statement that wasn't expected, club was always going to happen before inter county and saying October for inter county would allow most club championships to finish - we altered formats perhaps.
The behind closed doors is a bit more complicated I think. To make up for lost gate receipts they would have to show more live games but would the broadcasters have the ability to show all the games as there would so much overlap. The delivery platform is there through GAAGO but how many live games could the broadcasters manage in the one day.

What however it does show is the GAA has not given into the doom and gloom merchants who are similar to what we see on here."
Doom and gloom merchants? Or realists?

I still can't believe that after 10 weeks or whatever it is, that people cannot get their heads around the seriousness of this pandemic. I know that this is a GAA website and forum, and that we all obviously love our sport but my God, priorities lads.

There seems to be this attitude that we've done our bit for 10 weeks so that's us now, let's get the show back on the road.
The virus is still out there. 37 people died yesterday. 37! The only reason that it isn't way more is because the vast majority of us have practiced social distancing and obeyed lockdown measures.

All we've been doing is smothering the flames. If we're not extremely careful it could easily reignite, overwhelm the HSE and we'd be back to square one. 30 lads sweating and puffing on a football field is definitely not being careful.

Lads saying club will be played before county?!? How is this any less dangerous to public health? Christ above!

I said it before on this thread, we have absolutely gone soft as a country, used to just having what we want when we want. This pandemic has forced us all back to brass tacks. People talk about sport returning being a morale booster? Completely agree it would - but not at the potential devastating cost. Your morale should be boosted by the fact that you and your family are keeping safe and well please God, that we can still get out in the fresh air for exercise and we're not going to starve. If we have to make do without sport for 2020 then so be it.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 6828 - 07/05/2020 09:31:53    2277687

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Replying To Talking_Sense:  "Absolute nothing statement . It's just same pretty much as government said last week. There will be no club or county with this virus around. Clubs I doubt very much have any liability either insurance wise against Covid 19 and players or supporters could take this virus home to relatives and people could and will die.

Can't play without a vaccine or this virus gone. GAA are just stalling for time. They should just come out and call it a day for 2020"
Been saying this for weeks.

I said they should have just suspended all GAA activities, everything apart maybe from virtual Scor, for the remainder of 2020 and put it to bed. Instead they go and have more meetings and then issue a statement about .... inter county activity .... which betrays what their real interest is ... making money somehow this year.

They need to end the ongoing continuing nonsense of this endless speculation and quoted comments from individual players who understandably are dying (no pun intended) to get back playing but who don't have any responsibility for public health and safety.

Onion Breath (Carlow) - Posts: 1227 - 07/05/2020 10:16:56    2277689

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Replying To Crossgaa:  "There will be no championship football this year. GAA have appointed 5 doctors on advisory committee so no way in hell they will advise for games to go forward.
I think more importantly that underage club games should go ahead and this virus poses no treat to young people.

GAA will make no money with behind closed door games but I can't see how they just can't go with smaller crowds at games and space them out."
"I think more importantly that underage club games should go ahead and this virus poses no treat to young people."

Lord, save us (from the likes of this).

Onion Breath (Carlow) - Posts: 1227 - 07/05/2020 10:21:36    2277690

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Replying To Onion Breath:  ""I think more importantly that underage club games should go ahead and this virus poses no treat to young people."

Lord, save us (from the likes of this)."
thats what your up against onion breath,irish republicans and torys

Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 1820 - 07/05/2020 11:01:37    2277692

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Replying To Trump2020:  "For what's is worth the Korean Baseball League just got underway to almost empty stands and Merkel said the Bundesliga can get underway this month."
Just as well we have the Korean baseball to keep us entertained. The Kiwoom Heroes play in maroon and white, so we have our team sorted.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 729 - 07/05/2020 11:25:48    2277693

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "Doom and gloom merchants? Or realists?

I still can't believe that after 10 weeks or whatever it is, that people cannot get their heads around the seriousness of this pandemic. I know that this is a GAA website and forum, and that we all obviously love our sport but my God, priorities lads.

There seems to be this attitude that we've done our bit for 10 weeks so that's us now, let's get the show back on the road.
The virus is still out there. 37 people died yesterday. 37! The only reason that it isn't way more is because the vast majority of us have practiced social distancing and obeyed lockdown measures.

All we've been doing is smothering the flames. If we're not extremely careful it could easily reignite, overwhelm the HSE and we'd be back to square one. 30 lads sweating and puffing on a football field is definitely not being careful.

Lads saying club will be played before county?!? How is this any less dangerous to public health? Christ above!

I said it before on this thread, we have absolutely gone soft as a country, used to just having what we want when we want. This pandemic has forced us all back to brass tacks. People talk about sport returning being a morale booster? Completely agree it would - but not at the potential devastating cost. Your morale should be boosted by the fact that you and your family are keeping safe and well please God, that we can still get out in the fresh air for exercise and we're not going to starve. If we have to make do without sport for 2020 then so be it."
Would agree fully, how do people think it is safer for 30 club players to be in close physical contact and possibly spreading the virus and bringing it back to their families?? Parents, Grandparents etc. They cannot be in close contact with each other that's a fact so there will be no club or county activity until a safe vaccine is available, and this also applies to underage, yes it may not affect them badly but they would have a high risk of bringing it back to vulnerable family members!! Unfortunately when restrictions are lifted it will be all about trying to contain the virus as it will start spreading again very quickly so to think contact sport esp amateur will take place again in 2020 is madness..

dec (None) - Posts: 232 - 07/05/2020 12:14:35    2277696

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "Doom and gloom merchants? Or realists?

I still can't believe that after 10 weeks or whatever it is, that people cannot get their heads around the seriousness of this pandemic. I know that this is a GAA website and forum, and that we all obviously love our sport but my God, priorities lads.

There seems to be this attitude that we've done our bit for 10 weeks so that's us now, let's get the show back on the road.
The virus is still out there. 37 people died yesterday. 37! The only reason that it isn't way more is because the vast majority of us have practiced social distancing and obeyed lockdown measures.

All we've been doing is smothering the flames. If we're not extremely careful it could easily reignite, overwhelm the HSE and we'd be back to square one. 30 lads sweating and puffing on a football field is definitely not being careful.

Lads saying club will be played before county?!? How is this any less dangerous to public health? Christ above!

I said it before on this thread, we have absolutely gone soft as a country, used to just having what we want when we want. This pandemic has forced us all back to brass tacks. People talk about sport returning being a morale booster? Completely agree it would - but not at the potential devastating cost. Your morale should be boosted by the fact that you and your family are keeping safe and well please God, that we can still get out in the fresh air for exercise and we're not going to starve. If we have to make do without sport for 2020 then so be it."
I don't believe anyone has ever suggested that this is not a dangerous virus and that the implications of a full blown breakout in Ireland wouldn't be a disaster however there are also those of us who believe that with the current measures in place and the constant improvement in testing and contact tracing the virus may be eliminated from community transfer. In addition if people continue to practice proper hygiene and safe health care (incl getting the flu shot), if symptoms get tested and isolate until clear, then we can learn to live with the virus still out there stalking.
Nobody on here is talking about it happening tomorrow or next week but we are looking to the point where everything thats happening now makes a difference for the future. Three months ago I would hazard a guess nobody on this forum hardly knew what COVID 19 was so for anyone to come out and say they know the future is rubbish. All we can do is look at what the current strategy is designed to do and if it works then we will have games again, it won't be risk free but then again it never was but I guess there are some people who still think that washing hands and getting things like the flu shot won't be necessary if this virus went away.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 723 - 07/05/2020 12:35:16    2277697

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Replying To dec:  "Would agree fully, how do people think it is safer for 30 club players to be in close physical contact and possibly spreading the virus and bringing it back to their families?? Parents, Grandparents etc. They cannot be in close contact with each other that's a fact so there will be no club or county activity until a safe vaccine is available, and this also applies to underage, yes it may not affect them badly but they would have a high risk of bringing it back to vulnerable family members!! Unfortunately when restrictions are lifted it will be all about trying to contain the virus as it will start spreading again very quickly so to think contact sport esp amateur will take place again in 2020 is madness.."
Perhaps you should look at what has happened elsewhere in the world and begin to think that we could do the same in Ireland? do you know the virus exists outside of Ireland?

http://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2020/04/27/news/shanghai-gaa-1916514/?fbclid=IwAR2NKQzJYI4ASrJk9Wb1MbWN9llQ7DG42olAgyG0RAidX7EokOHjkbZ6cPA

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 723 - 07/05/2020 12:50:54    2277699

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Replying To dec:  "Would agree fully, how do people think it is safer for 30 club players to be in close physical contact and possibly spreading the virus and bringing it back to their families?? Parents, Grandparents etc. They cannot be in close contact with each other that's a fact so there will be no club or county activity until a safe vaccine is available, and this also applies to underage, yes it may not affect them badly but they would have a high risk of bringing it back to vulnerable family members!! Unfortunately when restrictions are lifted it will be all about trying to contain the virus as it will start spreading again very quickly so to think contact sport esp amateur will take place again in 2020 is madness.."
What if there is no safe vaccine next year at what stage do you get back to playing Gaa altogether it's obviously not safe at the moment but a few Months is a long time a lot of people saying park it for 2020 but what happens after this winter if no vaccine and it there's a rise in cases again do we park 2021 then aswell and so on!

theyoungbuck89 (Galway) - Posts: 54 - 07/05/2020 13:32:11    2277702

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Replying To theyoungbuck89:  "What if there is no safe vaccine next year at what stage do you get back to playing Gaa altogether it's obviously not safe at the moment but a few Months is a long time a lot of people saying park it for 2020 but what happens after this winter if no vaccine and it there's a rise in cases again do we park 2021 then aswell and so on!"
Good question, we're all thinking there will be a vaccine in 12 months or so and there is no gaurentee of that.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 10891 - 07/05/2020 14:14:15    2277706

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Replying To zinny:  "I don't believe anyone has ever suggested that this is not a dangerous virus and that the implications of a full blown breakout in Ireland wouldn't be a disaster however there are also those of us who believe that with the current measures in place and the constant improvement in testing and contact tracing the virus may be eliminated from community transfer. In addition if people continue to practice proper hygiene and safe health care (incl getting the flu shot), if symptoms get tested and isolate until clear, then we can learn to live with the virus still out there stalking.
Nobody on here is talking about it happening tomorrow or next week but we are looking to the point where everything thats happening now makes a difference for the future. Three months ago I would hazard a guess nobody on this forum hardly knew what COVID 19 was so for anyone to come out and say they know the future is rubbish. All we can do is look at what the current strategy is designed to do and if it works then we will have games again, it won't be risk free but then again it never was but I guess there are some people who still think that washing hands and getting things like the flu shot won't be necessary if this virus went away."
I understand what you're saying and I sincerely hope that over time, and as things evolve, the GAA can offer guidance as to how some sort of safe training and competition can take place, whether it be club or county. This would obviously have to be done in close consultation with the government and the health experts.

But all over social media at present there is this clamor and neediness for instant answers from the GAA. The GAA is a tiny speck of insignificance in the overall pandemic scheme of things. That's what I was getting at in my last post.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 6828 - 07/05/2020 14:56:54    2277707

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Replying To theyoungbuck89:  "What if there is no safe vaccine next year at what stage do you get back to playing Gaa altogether it's obviously not safe at the moment but a few Months is a long time a lot of people saying park it for 2020 but what happens after this winter if no vaccine and it there's a rise in cases again do we park 2021 then aswell and so on!"
Unfortunately that could be needed in the worst case scenario. But if we can get ourselves into a position like New Zealand are, then we'll give ourselves more options. The virus might still be in circulation. But if we expand our testing capability and contact tracing then perhaps there will be avenues to explore as to how we can safely have training and matches. It's just that at the moment, we're not there yet. So it's very difficult to say what the safest course of action will be in 3 or 6 months time.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 6828 - 07/05/2020 15:21:38    2277708

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "In case you didn't know, the Kerry captain is not a qualified medical expert. I prefer to listen to health and medical experts, than an unqualified 21 year old with no medical qualifications, and leave the decision on when play restarts to qualified medical experts, who haven't just got the welfare of the GAA on there mind, but the health and risk of deaths of the whole population of the country.

I never said "there's no appetite for it", don't put words in my mouth. And in case you didn't know, there are players from all over the 32 counties who very uneasy about returning to play sport at this moment."
You're getting confused. I'm quoting the GAA's statement from yesterday, they say there is a "a lack of appetite" for playing games behind closed doors. David Clifford is entitled to offer his opinions on whether the GAA should play games behind closed doors. He's hardly going to be making decisions. The GAA have appointed four doctors on the emergency committee to help with that. Again, coming out and saying there is "a lack of appetite" is an insult to the players who have trained all year. I guess there would be many players against a return to playing too but the GAA top brass is all about making money unfortunately.

summerof09 (Meath) - Posts: 233 - 07/05/2020 15:50:07    2277710

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Replying To Onion Breath:  "Been saying this for weeks.

I said they should have just suspended all GAA activities, everything apart maybe from virtual Scor, for the remainder of 2020 and put it to bed. Instead they go and have more meetings and then issue a statement about .... inter county activity .... which betrays what their real interest is ... making money somehow this year.

They need to end the ongoing continuing nonsense of this endless speculation and quoted comments from individual players who understandably are dying (no pun intended) to get back playing but who don't have any responsibility for public health and safety."
Sure of course you'd say that and you from Carlow. Sure ya have nothing to lose like.
You'd be used to packing it in at half time so ya would.

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 1366 - 07/05/2020 18:37:56    2277718

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Firstly lets all agree we have no idea how this is going to pan out and I think the next few weeks will be crucial including the first few phases. We will all listen to the health experts and if they say it is safe to play then we will have club games at the very least this year. The GAA came out yesterday with a statement that for me is following the guidelines set out by the Govt on the advise of our health experts, the best in this country. It is great to see that alignment. I would also like to commend the GAA for putting club activity ahead of inter county activity, at the end of the day club activity is the heart and soul of communities. Our own club senior panel consisting of approx 30 players have been training on their own since the middle of March, all following the same program. There is no doubt that all these players want to play GAA this year. So yes there will be some players who feel the risk is too great but they will be in the vast minority. The statistics that are emerging are really showing young people are getting mild forms of this virus and practically no deaths thankfully. Yes there is the risk of bringing it home but again with the right measures in place at home , this can be mitigated successfully. I read a statistic the other day that the amount of people who have died from Coivd 19 in this country under the age of 40 was 14. I know 14 is 14 too many but this is statistic and there are other statistics that are beginning to evolve based on data over significant periods of time, that give confidence to schools and sport being back on the agenda later this summer. Finally people on here are giving out about the lack of clarity from the GAA but I have to say I have been completely frustrated in respect to the lack of communications or clarity on the leaving cert. The stats again show that the leaving cert should go ahead - in my opinion if the leaving cert does not go ahead it will be a sad reflection of the governance of our educational system, heads will need to roll. There is no reason why the appropriate measures cannot be put in place around social distancing etc for the leaving cert. The only reason that the LC should not go ahead is based on the advice of the health experts and I just cannot currently see them advising against it.

rossno1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 251 - 07/05/2020 19:22:31    2277721

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Replying To catch22:  "Sure of course you'd say that and you from Carlow. Sure ya have nothing to lose like.
You'd be used to packing it in at half time so ya would."
Carlow is a small county yet still manage to have decent football and hurling teams.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 927 - 07/05/2020 20:46:55    2277729

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Replying To Trump2020:  "Carlow is a small county yet still manage to have decent football and hurling teams."
Ah, sure you could say that about some of the bigger counties too I suppose.

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 1366 - 07/05/2020 21:04:23    2277730

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Replying To Trump2020:  "Carlow is a small county yet still manage to have decent football and hurling teams."
They can hardly be considered decent at either code

pim (Meath) - Posts: 115 - 07/05/2020 21:06:20    2277732

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Replying To catch22:  "Ah, sure you could say that about some of the bigger counties too I suppose."
Yes you could but they're bigger so...

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 927 - 07/05/2020 21:58:31    2277736

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Replying To pim:  "They can hardly be considered decent at either code"
Their hurlers would beat Meaths Hurlers for example.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 927 - 07/05/2020 21:59:51    2277737

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