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In the UK it is different to the Republic how deaths are recorded as a Covid death. My mother died of heart failure , she had Covid previously and had made a full recovery, death is heart failure, that is the way it is recorded here.
arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4896 - 29/03/2021 00:11:24 2335289 Link 2 |
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How long between her Covid diagnosis and her death ? If it was more than 28 days, it'd've been the same in the UK. lionofludesch (Down) - Posts: 475 - 29/03/2021 09:28:12 2335293 Link 0 |
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Whether it's a misdemeanor or felony, it's obviously deep rooted in our DNA, some may pay a heavy price others obviously not.
supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2907 - 29/03/2021 10:08:02 2335296 Link 0 |
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The way it should be across the board. But that wouldn't create a juicy enough story for the Tele so they made up lies about a child from Derry despite knowing the truth beforehand.
SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 29/03/2021 10:41:40 2335298 Link 1 |
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Sorry about the loss of your Mom Arock.Hope you doing ok, Take care.
CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3676 - 29/03/2021 11:48:36 2335301 Link 1 |
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In fairness it's not solely an Irish problem. You see it across the water with the Tories as well. Dominic Cummings basically doing what he wanted during their lockdown for example. My father in-law summed it up pretty well recently when he said you'd probably get in more trouble in Ireland owing €1000 than you would in owing a million. Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9136 - 29/03/2021 11:53:03 2335302 Link 1 |
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But the school involved was a rugby school not a GAA one yes or no. It's not a big part of the story but it is part of it . The wealthy in this country have a sense of entitlement and as in this case have no problem jumping the queue ahead of the ordinary person who has to shut up and get in line-as somebody said here earlier it's like the wealthy man getting off the sinking Titanic before the poorer women and children. Like it or not rugby is their game. You can see that rugby arrogance even here on this thread with KillingFields yapping on about pro 14 and rugby being professional and rugby bubbles and the GAA has to wait it's turn before it can resume (-rugby has had far more cases than the Intercounty GAA had last autumn) and even claiming LOI soccer can control Covid better than the GAA could."]Well said upwell. Watching from the sidelines, it's a most interesting scenario where a private hospital had excess vials and they were offered to a school 14k from them, a school of privilege where parents pay a lot of money to have their children educated in a particular ethos. To me whether it's a rugby school or not is irrelevant. Plenty of schools who foster GAA see themselves and are seen by many in society as being a little above the rest as well. Little doubt that excess vials may be there in all vax centres. What I find interesting is that the school actually took them ! This should be at the heart of the story but has not generated much attention ... but why did they take them... surely the school should have said ...thanks but please offer them to those who are more in need... it seems as if that did not happen. The school said it had 'no comment.' I dont think that is good enough and they should be challenged on this... but perhaps 'privilege' puts it beyond the pale of being asked and being expected to respond. Not good enough either if we think that they were right to take them when offered. Morally, just not right. I can understand that doses can become excess, but all in our society should have worked within protocols and that applies in my opinion to all 20 staff from that school. We can point the finger at the hospital CEO but not a good message sent out by the school at all. I am sure their ethos and its guardians will have a peak at their practice and it will be interesting if a statement is made at some future date and if a journalist is willing to pursue the story and report it. carlowman (Carlow) - Posts: 1821 - 29/03/2021 12:06:20 2335303 Link 0 |
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Lads would ye stop banging on about privilege,,, you'd swear we're the cursed of the earth, bottom of the list. Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1708 - 29/03/2021 13:23:36 2335304 Link 2 |
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I feel that if I had a family member or friend in that hospital and they were not offered a dose of the vaccine when it became available, I would bang on about it a lot and I would feel justified about it. Privilege in this most recent episode has further driven a wedge between those who have and have not. Social cohesion is important. We do not live in a bubble and this most recent act has not helped at all. It is not flippant, we should highlight it we cannot brush it under the carpet and pretend it did not happen. We should learn from it, follow the protocols and ensure it does not happen again. Those in charge have a serious responsibility, a social responsibility and it does extend far beyond the notion if looking after oneself first and ones friends second... and to be honest, these people need to gave a look at their position. And by the way I personally have fully recognised that I am privileged to live in this land. I would not start comparing life here in this country with North America or any European country. Life here is far better but we should demand the highest standards from those in the public eye especially when people lives may be at risk. carlowman (Carlow) - Posts: 1821 - 29/03/2021 13:52:44 2335308 Link 2 |
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So........... Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9136 - 29/03/2021 14:04:27 2335310 Link 0 |
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I can't see them going straight into championship, even last year the players had the club championship after the layoff. Some form of league will be played.
zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1804 - 29/03/2021 17:06:02 2335317 Link 0 |
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R.I.P. Sorry to hear this.
Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2120 - 29/03/2021 18:45:40 2335322 Link 2 |
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Once you see the GAA going for another bag of taxpayers money to bail them out, it's only then will you hear about the championship plans. They are some crowd to blow money. AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 29/03/2021 19:05:19 2335323 Link 2 |
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Yeah, and they give nothing back, like with only about a million people attending games each year all over the country spending money in local towns, restaurants and bars, sportswear, trains, buses,, tax receipts from ticket sales, advertising,, yeah sure its all take take take
Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1708 - 29/03/2021 20:05:49 2335330 Link 4 |
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Not a patch on the FAI though.
updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 817 - 29/03/2021 21:13:21 2335334 Link 5 |
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On every topic all you seem to come out with all this whataboutery, I'd hate to see you on a live debate, what about this, what about that. You're coming across as a very insular bitter old man.
AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 29/03/2021 22:47:14 2335336 Link 0 |
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So your logic is that nobody would spend this money if it wasn't for the GAA, the whole country is depending on the sale of a few pints, bloody hell has the country developed at all ! If you want to use that flawed logic, we can also say that the money which wasn't spent in that way last year was better spent on home improvements and the likes, but of course it's all worthless leprechaun economics.
AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 29/03/2021 22:57:30 2335337 Link 0 |
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Yes indeed. Look at the Delaney scandal- can you imagine the blow holing that would be going on if the GAA had wasted such vast amounts of money.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4321 - 29/03/2021 23:14:55 2335339 Link 1 |
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Your what we call a WUM around here. I'm just surprised so many of my fellow posters are falling for it. Anyway humour me, please give actual examples of where the GAA have blown money? yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11231 - 30/03/2021 00:13:19 2335342 Link 7 |
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Sorry could you explain that comment? Facts and figures please.
zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1804 - 30/03/2021 00:23:44 2335344 Link 1 |