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Ya soccer may be the most popular sport in the world but in reality you could go out cut the grass come in and have missed nothing. Endless time for nothing to happen. In hurling go for a pee and the team losing by five points are new winning when you come back.Time management much more important.
Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2660 - 11/02/2020 14:28:16 2267071 Link 1 |
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for the 4 minutes after Bugler scored for Dublin to bring the game to two points, the ball was in play for 15 seconds. There was an injury, and the Ref took 1:50 to hand out three cards.
Gavvygavgav (Dublin) - Posts: 382 - 11/02/2020 17:06:03 2267098 Link 3 |
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You're clutching at draws there now. What about the rest of the match, you do know the average time the ball is in play for a football match is less than 40 minutes. Do the math, 1.50 to hand out 3 yellow cards, had he to colour them in something.
mhunicean_abu (Monaghan) - Posts: 1044 - 11/02/2020 23:37:44 2267193 Link 2 |
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I remember reading a book a few years back on home advantage where they had done an analysis on La Liga over a number of years and it really debunked a lot of the suspicions around home teams been favored in terms of frees and penalties however the one thing that they did find was the correlation between the amount of extra time played if the home team was winning or losing. Now in the GAA county games the majority of the extra time comes from the fourth official based on the formula given for cards and subs (cards in the GAA take a lot longer than in soccer to give) but there will always be that little bit where they can decide what to give. I would say however as ref its not just about being the home team, sometimes a team can really get under your skin and while you may referee the game an ignore that, when it comes to extra time its real guess work so the mind may be inclined to go one way or the other. A t the end of the day thats the human element of the game. If teams went out to play the game fairly, 100% certain there would be far less controversy.
zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1804 - 12/02/2020 02:00:22 2267201 Link 3 |
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The Clock as used in the Ladies game can do the exact same thing as the ref's fancy watch. Its the extra time in addition to announced added time that remiains, as David Gough said, "at the referees discretion", that is causing anger. Over recent years several gaa players have admitted to having serious gambling problems. Currently a number of Soccer clubs are being investigated for alleged match fixing. Is it reasonable to assume that only players are likely to get caught up in gambling problems? On the additional added time, it never happens in one sided games. There is no good reason being put forward for not having the countdown clock, why is it being opposed? giveitlong (Galway) - Posts: 1222 - 12/02/2020 10:29:54 2267235 Link 2 |
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Interesting to see the different approaches to additional time added by the referee when Dublin were leading by a point vs Donegal compared to when they were trailing vs Monaghan... SurelyToGod (Donegal) - Posts: 378 - 23/02/2020 18:42:51 2269373 Link 1 |
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Different games. However if you are inferring that Dublin dont suffer from timekeeping issues, I refer you to Dublin V Kerry where one David Clifford equalised in the 79th minute.
Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 23/02/2020 18:52:49 2269378 Link 11 |
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It happened today in the Mayo v Monaghan game. 3 minutes over announced time of 4 minutes. Monaghan were 9 points clear. Pretty one sided.
Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 23/02/2020 18:58:27 2269380 Link 9 |
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I totally agree with you here it is very inconstant at present. It was announced that there would be 7 minutes in the Donegal game. The first minute of the 7 the ball was dead waiting for a Dublin free. From the 74-76 minute there was the melle which resulted in 2 red cards and the ref blew his whistle on 78. This is getting extremely annoying and its not just against us in the Donegal game there was extra time on the additional time in our favour. I would be a big fan of taking in the same rule as rugby that when the clock goes red the next break in play the game ends as long as it doesn't disadvantage the attacking team. naomh_conaill_4 (Donegal) - Posts: 481 - 24/02/2020 11:07:39 2269633 Link 0 |
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Conor Lane the ref who got this thread started following the club final took charge of Galway V Tyrone yesterday. Galway were 19 points up at the end of the 5 minutes of announced added time. He played just 1 second over.
giveitlong (Galway) - Posts: 1222 - 24/02/2020 13:28:40 2269712 Link 0 |
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Declan Bonner raised this same point after the match. Would definitely be more acceptable had Donegal not seen Mayo equalise in the 80th minute at the start of the campaign. Now Donegal get 80 seconds added on when the game was stopped by the ref for 4 minutes plus during added time. I understand that the GAA have sneakily made the game an 80 minute match at inter-county level now, but how come so much of added it is left to guesswork on the part of the referee? Barring a serious injury, you'll rarely see more than 4 or 5 minutes given at a club match. Is it not the same rules all around? SurelyToGod (Donegal) - Posts: 378 - 24/02/2020 16:03:37 2269788 Link 1 |
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Eh ok. But I gave an example of a time when the result wasnt in doubt and 3 additional minutes over extra time was played. It depends on stoppages etc and having not seen the whole match I don't know if he was right or wrong.
Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 24/02/2020 17:17:38 2269818 Link 9 |
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Were you there Jackeen. Didn't notice your like around. You know everything about every game now? Don't be making broad brush comments without understanding or providing the context. Really doing yourself a disservice. At least recognize that there was way too much time added on vs Monaghan & too little vs Donegal. greysoil (Monaghan) - Posts: 965 - 24/02/2020 20:48:10 2269878 Link 1 |
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Take a day off will ya. You're as bad as my other stalker at this stage!
Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 24/02/2020 21:22:50 2269887 Link 10 |
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So basically it is all a conspiracy, Save the Dubs right? Poor Ulster paranoia what a burden. That grassy knoll is getting very crowded. Simple solution is to do what the Ladies game does end of whinging and moaning.
arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4896 - 24/02/2020 21:29:36 2269890 Link 2 |
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So certainly 2 to 1 in favour of Dublin then.
DonegalAtlantic (Donegal) - Posts: 111 - 24/02/2020 21:42:06 2269893 Link 1 |
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Ah now don't be flattering yourself
greysoil (Monaghan) - Posts: 965 - 24/02/2020 21:52:51 2269896 Link 0 |
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3.5 minutes past the 6 minutes stated in the 2017 final v Mayo. Does that count?
Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 24/02/2020 22:12:31 2269906 Link 8 |
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Well Mr Lane confirmed in Tuam yesterday he can't keep time. He played only 5 minutes. Now Cathal McShanes injury was nearly that alone. He gave nothing for other injuries or substitutions. GDL (Galway) - Posts: 721 - 24/02/2020 22:33:24 2269911 Link 0 |
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Monaghan only have themselves to blame with their time wasting.
Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 24/02/2020 22:36:38 2269913 Link 2 |