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Division 1 looks good next year. 4 Ulster teams in it and any of them can beat each other, roscommon back up again, greatest yoyo team I have seen. Will be interesting
monaghanmad (Monaghan) - Posts: 378 - 25/10/2020 20:01:27
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Replying To katser: "Hard luck Mayo today...they gave it absolutely everything in pure desperation to try and claw on to Division 1 status, my heart goes out to them." Could you not find it in your heart to acknowledge also the pain felt by the Galway fans who after being humiliated by this poor Mayo team just one week ago bitterly cried that they hoped Roscommon would beat Mayo in the Champo so as to save Galway the pain of facing them again.
Where is your empathy, man!
timmyhogan (UK) - Posts: 290 - 25/10/2020 20:33:18
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Replying To yew_tree: "Cillian didn't play...nobody knows what's going on but must be injured again." Aidan didnt play either, but he captained the team to relegation...
Galwaymaster9 (Galway) - Posts: 393 - 25/10/2020 20:35:17
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Replying To monaghanmad: "Division 1 looks good next year. 4 Ulster teams in it and any of them can beat each other, roscommon back up again, greatest yoyo team I have seen. Will be interesting" I have a feeling that regardless of that fact, next year we'll still be hearing about how Ulster isn't really any stronger than the other provinces .
greatpoint (USA) - Posts: 427 - 26/10/2020 20:32:49
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Replying To yew_tree: "Cillian didn't play...nobody knows what's going on but must be injured again." James Horan said he got a slight knock and wasn't far off from featured yesterday.
ispeakwisdom (Roscommon) - Posts: 2487 - 26/10/2020 22:26:27
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Replying To greatpoint: "I have a feeling that regardless of that fact, next year we'll still be hearing about how Ulster isn't really any stronger than the other provinces ." Congrats to the kerry boys.
hamsterdean (Limerick) - Posts: 223 - 28/10/2020 22:10:33
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Replying To Galwaymaster9: "Aidan didnt play either, but he captained the team to relegation..." True mate...Aido only plays well against the poorer teams ;)
yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11227 - 28/10/2020 22:36:26
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Replying To yew_tree: "True mate...Aido only plays well against the poorer teams ;)" Agree, shows how overrated he totally is.. Good to see you agree.. He may struggle in Div 2 next year as well..
Galwaymaster9 (Galway) - Posts: 393 - 29/10/2020 09:31:35
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Replying To Galwaymaster9: "Agree, shows how overrated he totally is.. Good to see you agree.. He may struggle in Div 2 next year as well.." If only he could play against Galway and Sean Andy every week we'd be in business.
yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11227 - 29/10/2020 11:31:13
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Replying To yew_tree: "If only he could play against Galway and Sean Andy every week we'd be in business." Very funny but the Galway boys have a plan for that.......
Roscommon!
timmyhogan (UK) - Posts: 290 - 29/10/2020 12:56:55
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Replying To timmyhogan: "Very funny but the Galway boys have a plan for that.......
Roscommon!" I agree...we are only making up the numbers in Connacht this year sure. Galway and Roscommon ahead of us.
yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11227 - 29/10/2020 16:32:22
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I think this doesnt seem to be noticed here.
It looks like the promotions and relegation for this years leagues wouldnt count next year and maybe never count. Very unfair on Armagh Roscommon Cork Down and Wicklow.
Because Covid they are thinking of stopping counties going the lenght and breath of the country like the Donegal team going to kerry and Kerry going to Monaghan. They are thinking of having geographical divisions, division divided into 4 areas. And maybe 2022 have the divisions based on this leagues out come so Armagh and Roscommon are in div 1 in 2022. But that might not happen eitheir. Thats seems to be unlikely. I am only guessing that part myself that they might have 2022 league based on this years league. We just dont know. But having a league based geographical area and they are thinking of holding it March April May next year.
They are thinking of 4 divs of 8 and then dividing each div into one group of 4 eg 1B and another group of 4 eg 1B and winners of each group play in div final eg 1A winners v 1B Winners.
I am probaly not explaining myself well. It is very hard to teams who were promoted this year. Anyway here are the groups
North West Div 1
Donegal Sligo Derry Roscommon Fermanagh longford leitrim Mayo
North East Div 2
Monaghan Cavan Down Meath Armagh Tyrone Antrim louth
South West Div 3
Kerry Offaly Westmeath laois Galway limerick Clare
( This will be 7 team div)
South East Div 4
Dublin Cork kildare WIcklow Wexford Waterford Carlow Tippearey
Last time they this had all divisions with div 1 2 3 and 4 teams in one div was 1998 when Galway who were rank outsiders at start of the year in 1998 won Sam in Sept 98. Galway were div 3 team in 97 and didnt get promoted or relegated in 97. They stayed in div 3. Yet 98 league GAA mixed up the leagues and Kerry and Dublin were in div 3 with Wexford and Galway and Mayo were in div 1 with kilkenny. Galway topped the group and won Sam. Technically the only team in last 50 years from div 3 to win Sam.
So it is likely next years league will be shaped by Geography rather then merit.
Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 1067 - 30/10/2020 08:07:46
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Replying To Furlong1949: "I think this doesnt seem to be noticed here.
It looks like the promotions and relegation for this years leagues wouldnt count next year and maybe never count. Very unfair on Armagh Roscommon Cork Down and Wicklow.
Because Covid they are thinking of stopping counties going the lenght and breath of the country like the Donegal team going to kerry and Kerry going to Monaghan. They are thinking of having geographical divisions, division divided into 4 areas. And maybe 2022 have the divisions based on this leagues out come so Armagh and Roscommon are in div 1 in 2022. But that might not happen eitheir. Thats seems to be unlikely. I am only guessing that part myself that they might have 2022 league based on this years league. We just dont know. But having a league based geographical area and they are thinking of holding it March April May next year.
They are thinking of 4 divs of 8 and then dividing each div into one group of 4 eg 1B and another group of 4 eg 1B and winners of each group play in div final eg 1A winners v 1B Winners.
I am probaly not explaining myself well. It is very hard to teams who were promoted this year. Anyway here are the groups
North West Div 1
Donegal Sligo Derry Roscommon Fermanagh longford leitrim Mayo
North East Div 2
Monaghan Cavan Down Meath Armagh Tyrone Antrim louth
South West Div 3
Kerry Offaly Westmeath laois Galway limerick Clare
( This will be 7 team div)
South East Div 4
Dublin Cork kildare WIcklow Wexford Waterford Carlow Tippearey
Last time they this had all divisions with div 1 2 3 and 4 teams in one div was 1998 when Galway who were rank outsiders at start of the year in 1998 won Sam in Sept 98. Galway were div 3 team in 97 and didnt get promoted or relegated in 97. They stayed in div 3. Yet 98 league GAA mixed up the leagues and Kerry and Dublin were in div 3 with Wexford and Galway and Mayo were in div 1 with kilkenny. Galway topped the group and won Sam. Technically the only team in last 50 years from div 3 to win Sam.
So it is likely next years league will be shaped by Geography rather then merit." Ah well it'll be different anyway, I thought they were keeping the divisions the same and splitting them north and south.
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 30/10/2020 11:20:02
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Replying To Furlong1949: "I think this doesnt seem to be noticed here.
It looks like the promotions and relegation for this years leagues wouldnt count next year and maybe never count. Very unfair on Armagh Roscommon Cork Down and Wicklow.
Because Covid they are thinking of stopping counties going the lenght and breath of the country like the Donegal team going to kerry and Kerry going to Monaghan. They are thinking of having geographical divisions, division divided into 4 areas. And maybe 2022 have the divisions based on this leagues out come so Armagh and Roscommon are in div 1 in 2022. But that might not happen eitheir. Thats seems to be unlikely. I am only guessing that part myself that they might have 2022 league based on this years league. We just dont know. But having a league based geographical area and they are thinking of holding it March April May next year.
They are thinking of 4 divs of 8 and then dividing each div into one group of 4 eg 1B and another group of 4 eg 1B and winners of each group play in div final eg 1A winners v 1B Winners.
I am probaly not explaining myself well. It is very hard to teams who were promoted this year. Anyway here are the groups
North West Div 1
Donegal Sligo Derry Roscommon Fermanagh longford leitrim Mayo
North East Div 2
Monaghan Cavan Down Meath Armagh Tyrone Antrim louth
South West Div 3
Kerry Offaly Westmeath laois Galway limerick Clare
( This will be 7 team div)
South East Div 4
Dublin Cork kildare WIcklow Wexford Waterford Carlow Tippearey
Last time they this had all divisions with div 1 2 3 and 4 teams in one div was 1998 when Galway who were rank outsiders at start of the year in 1998 won Sam in Sept 98. Galway were div 3 team in 97 and didnt get promoted or relegated in 97. They stayed in div 3. Yet 98 league GAA mixed up the leagues and Kerry and Dublin were in div 3 with Wexford and Galway and Mayo were in div 1 with kilkenny. Galway topped the group and won Sam. Technically the only team in last 50 years from div 3 to win Sam.
So it is likely next years league will be shaped by Geography rather then merit." It's a long drive from Ballinabrackey to ballybofey. Same from kinnegad to Tralee. I use these two parishes as they are in Meath and Westmeath yet border each other. So a neighbour could be heading off to Kerry while the other one heads off to Donegal.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 30/10/2020 11:36:13
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Replying To KingdomBoy1: "Ah well it'll be different anyway, I thought they were keeping the divisions the same and splitting them north and south." If what you have outlined were to happen then where would this leave the second tier competition? e.g. being Cork and Down who are back in the All Ireland series after their promotion while Fermanagh and Cavan are in the secondary competition based upon this year's cut off. I'm not sure where this idea came from as I hadn't heard it being spoken about in any other forum or reported on in the national press? I can understand why the GAA would be looking to restrict teams in some way from travelling the length and breath of Ireland in order to fulfill fixtures, eg. Donegal to Kerry but with an increasing optimism that there will be a vaccine to help curb the virus in 2021 then I can't really see why the GAA would go for this proposed idea at this stage!!!
wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 1909 - 30/10/2020 11:42:28
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Replying To wicklowsupport: "If what you have outlined were to happen then where would this leave the second tier competition? e.g. being Cork and Down who are back in the All Ireland series after their promotion while Fermanagh and Cavan are in the secondary competition based upon this year's cut off. I'm not sure where this idea came from as I hadn't heard it being spoken about in any other forum or reported on in the national press? I can understand why the GAA would be looking to restrict teams in some way from travelling the length and breath of Ireland in order to fulfill fixtures, eg. Donegal to Kerry but with an increasing optimism that there will be a vaccine to help curb the virus in 2021 then I can't really see why the GAA would go for this proposed idea at this stage!!!" I'd be thinking the second tier would be put on the back burner for a year or 2 wicklowsupport (in my opinion that's where that competition belongs) but that's another story.
Are we really that close to a vaccine? I hope we are but I suppose the gaa have to plan for the worst outcome which would be that it could take a few years.
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 30/10/2020 11:54:39
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Replying To KingdomBoy1: "I'd be thinking the second tier would be put on the back burner for a year or 2 wicklowsupport (in my opinion that's where that competition belongs) but that's another story.
Are we really that close to a vaccine? I hope we are but I suppose the gaa have to plan for the worst outcome which would be that it could take a few years." I can see why the GAA would be looking at a Plan B. As you say, it is hard to know how realistic availability of a safe vaccine is in the short term i.e. 2021. I also agree with you that if this change was to be introduced then the secondary competition would need to be pushed out into the future and again, I agree, the whole secondary competition is a badly thought out idea and will do nothing but harm to the teams consigned to playing it on a regular basis but as you say that is a discussion for another forum and another day.
wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 1909 - 30/10/2020 12:48:03
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Replying To yew_tree: "I agree...we are only making up the numbers in Connacht this year sure. Galway and Roscommon ahead of us." Well the Galway boys think you are only 50% right.
And they even have a name for the plan - Project BaBa
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timmyhogan (UK) - Posts: 290 - 30/10/2020 17:12:38
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Replying To wicklowsupport: "If what you have outlined were to happen then where would this leave the second tier competition? e.g. being Cork and Down who are back in the All Ireland series after their promotion while Fermanagh and Cavan are in the secondary competition based upon this year's cut off. I'm not sure where this idea came from as I hadn't heard it being spoken about in any other forum or reported on in the national press? I can understand why the GAA would be looking to restrict teams in some way from travelling the length and breath of Ireland in order to fulfill fixtures, eg. Donegal to Kerry but with an increasing optimism that there will be a vaccine to help curb the virus in 2021 then I can't really see why the GAA would go for this proposed idea at this stage!!!" Basing the league on geography was all over the media. And the north west north east south west south east divisions and the teams in them I named this was in a lead article in the Irish Independent which does be good for getting leaks from the GAA and other big organisations. Time will tell, but I think geography will be part of next years league, even a vaccine in record time would take most of the summer to roll out at least. So next years league and championship will have restrictions doubtful you will see crowds at gaa matchs in tens thousands in 2021 eitheir.
Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 1067 - 30/10/2020 18:01:23
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Peter Donnelly getting his views heard in Monaghan set up, if he had more to say in Tyrone set up maybe he would still be there.
Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2006 - 31/10/2020 14:39:11
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