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Galways record in div 1 since they went up is excellent. Winning league title for this Galway would be great boost. From what Joyce is saying hes wants to win the league. Take any young team kerry , Donegal or Mayo and also Tyrone winning a national league div 1 would be important. To win a national title. It would be a good foundation to try and take Dublin on. The league can be downplayed but I would never downgrade the importance of winning div 1 league title . You find most All Ireland winners have won div 1 league title also. Look at all the league titles this current Dublin won. Its an important part of develop for a team.

90% of the teams that have won the All Ireland in last 80 years won national league div 1 title.

And in the last 80 years from 1940 to 2020 Twenty four yes 24 teams won national league div 1 title and then that team won All Ireland title afterwards. Sometimes in the same year. Others took 2 or 3 years. But so many teams in the past used national league div 1 title as a lauching pad for Sam Maguire.

League is the only national competition after All Ireland championship. Win the league and you greatly improve your chances to win Sam Maguire. Donegal kerry Tyrone Mayo and Galway should be pushing hard to win the league. The confidence especially for a young team is unreal. Say Donegal or Tyrone or Galway win the league it will greatly help their chances to win Sam Maguire.

Here is the list below of all the teams that have won league div 1 titles and All Irelands from 1940 to 2019. 24 times a county won league div 1 they won the All Ireland not long after.

1. Dubljn won div 1 league titles in 2013 2014 2015 2016 2018 . Dublin won the All Ireland in 2013 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019

2 kerry won league div 1 title in 2017. kerry won All Ireland in 2014.

3 Cork won div 1 league title in 2010 , 2011 , 2012 . Cork won the All Ireland in 2010.

4 kerry won league div 1 in 2004. kerry won rhe All Ireland in 2004. Kerry won the div 1 league in 2006 . kerry won the All Ireland in 2006. Kerry won the div 1 league in 2009. Kerry won the All Ireland in 2009.

5 Tyrone won their first div 1 league title in 2002 and 2003. Tyrone won first All Ireland in 2003

6 Armgh won their first div 1 league in 2005. Armagh won their first All Ireland in 2002.

7 Meath won div 1 league title in 1994. Meath won the All Ireland in 1996

8 kerry won div 1 keague title in 1997. Kerry won All Ireland in 97

8 Derry won the div 1 league title in 1991. Derry won All Ireland in 1993. Derry also won 3 league titles in 90s.

9 Dublin won div 1 league title in 1991 and 1992. Dublin won All Ireland in 1995

10 Cork won the league div 1 title in 1989. Cork won All Ireland title in 1989.

11 Meath won div 1 league titles in 1988 1990. Meath won All Ireland in 1987 1988

12 kerry won div 1 leagure in 1981 and 1982. Kerry won All Ireland 1984 1985 1986

13 Kerry won div 1 league in 1974. Kerry won All Ireland in 1975.

14 Dublin won league div 1 in 1976 and 1978. Dublin won the All Ireland in 1976 1977.

15 Down won div 1 league in 1960 and 1961. Down won the All Ireland in 1960 and 1961. Down won div 1 league in 1968 . Down won All Ireland in 1968.

16 Galway won league div 1 title in 1965. Galway won All Ireland 1964 1965 1966.

17 kerry won div 1 league title in 1969 , 1971, 1972. Kerry won All Ireland in 1969 1970.

18 kerry won div 1 league in 1959. kerry won All Ireland in 1959.

19 kerry won div 1 league in 1961. Kerry won All Ireland in 1962.

20 kerry won league div 1 in 1955. kerry won All Ireland in 1955.

21 Galway won league div 1 in 1956. Galway won the All Ireland in 1956.

22 Dublin won div 1 league in 1957. Dublin won the All Ireland in 1958.

23 Meath won div 1 league in 1951. Meath won All Ireland in 1954.

24 Meath won div 1 league in 1946. Meath won All Ireland in 1949.

25 Cavan won the div 1 league in 1948. Cavan won the All Ireland in 1948.

26 Mayo won the div 1 league in 1949. Mayo won All Ireland in 1950 1951.

In conclusion if your an upcoming team who has yet to win an All Ireland if you win the league it greatly helps your chances. However its not hundred per cent gurateed

Donegal won their first div league title in 2007 , Offaly won their first div 1 league title in 1998 , Monghan won their first div 1 league title in 1985 , laois won their first div 1 leagur title in 1986 , Roscomon won their first div 1 league title in 1979 and longford in 1966. None of these counties won All Irelands. But it was their first and only league title. Of the 6 countites , 4 them had great sucess at provicial level and the league win was part of a great era for those counties.

So overall win the league and it will help your chances lifting Sam.

Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 1067 - 20/01/2020 19:34:07    2261184

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Replying To sam1884:  "Let the games begin - I think there should be a forum for each league. For me Kerry to win the league, Dublin to finish mid table whilst they settle into a new regime and Meath to be relegated possibly pointless."
Not a hope of Meath not getting points.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 20/01/2020 19:59:40    2261186

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Replying To MarkRule:  "Think Monaghan will be under a bit of pressure myself. They looked awful in the McKenna cup final, granted they were missing alot of starters but you'd be worried if Mcmanus or McCarron picked up a knock. None of the newer lads looked near county level. Scoreline flattered Tyrone. Could also see Tyrone getting in a bit of bother with McShane and Donnelly. Meath first game in Navan won't be easy either. Meath probably struggle too with Newman out. Be reliant on Walsh and Conlon who are still very young and winter ball might not suit them especially Walsh. Dublin and Kerry to contest the final I think."
Fair analysis

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 20/01/2020 20:01:25    2261187

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Can we all agree all teams are missing players. Let's get over the sob stories. At no time in any sport are you going to get a full squad injury free.

Kerry to win it. Galway to get to final.

Meath and Mayo to get relegated.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2105 - 20/01/2020 20:44:49    2261201

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Think meath will go down along with 1 of the Ulster teams, final really depends where Dublin and Kerry are in there training etc.

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 20/01/2020 21:11:45    2261211

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We are seriously depleted at the start of the league and with LYIT making the Sigerson we could be even more down. We're still without Paddy Mc Grath, Eoin Ban, Jason Mc Gee, Oisin Gallen & Paddy Mc Brearty through injury or away. I think there's still 5 more with Sigerson commitments. Mayo will never get a better chance of 2 points in Ballybofey.

Tir Conaill Abu (Donegal) - Posts: 1686 - 20/01/2020 23:24:09    2261234

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Replying To Tir Conaill Abu:  "We are seriously depleted at the start of the league and with LYIT making the Sigerson we could be even more down. We're still without Paddy Mc Grath, Eoin Ban, Jason Mc Gee, Oisin Gallen & Paddy Mc Brearty through injury or away. I think there's still 5 more with Sigerson commitments. Mayo will never get a better chance of 2 points in Ballybofey."
Mayo missing Barrett, the two O Sheas, Higgins, Keegan, Treacy, Carr, Conroy, Ryan O Donoghue, Cillian O Connor, Fionn McDonagh, Jason Doherty. Stephen Coen in sigerson acgion. Both teams missing plenty

MarkRule (Mayo) - Posts: 41 - 21/01/2020 10:24:27    2261265

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "Can we all agree all teams are missing players. Let's get over the sob stories. At no time in any sport are you going to get a full squad injury free.

Kerry to win it. Galway to get to final.

Meath and Mayo to get relegated."
What makes you think that?

mayomanic (Mayo) - Posts: 87 - 21/01/2020 11:15:32    2261276

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "Can we all agree all teams are missing players. Let's get over the sob stories. At no time in any sport are you going to get a full squad injury free.

Kerry to win it. Galway to get to final.

Meath and Mayo to get relegated."
Would agree on Kerry winning and Meath relegated..
I think Monaghan / mayo or Galway could drop..

Galwaymaster9 (Galway) - Posts: 475 - 21/01/2020 11:48:58    2261285

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Replying To MarkRule:  "Mayo missing Barrett, the two O Sheas, Higgins, Keegan, Treacy, Carr, Conroy, Ryan O Donoghue, Cillian O Connor, Fionn McDonagh, Jason Doherty. Stephen Coen in sigerson acgion. Both teams missing plenty"
Won't be putting any bets on this game so. Will be a good opportunity to see what both teams have coming through.

Tir Conaill Abu (Donegal) - Posts: 1686 - 21/01/2020 12:25:25    2261294

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Replying To MarkRule:  "Mayo missing Barrett, the two O Sheas, Higgins, Keegan, Treacy, Carr, Conroy, Ryan O Donoghue, Cillian O Connor, Fionn McDonagh, Jason Doherty. Stephen Coen in sigerson acgion. Both teams missing plenty"
Sigerson is over for Ryan O'Donoghue, McDonagh & Carr, why they missing?

TheBishop (Galway) - Posts: 337 - 21/01/2020 13:10:11    2261304

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Replying To Tir Conaill Abu:  "Won't be putting any bets on this game so. Will be a good opportunity to see what both teams have coming through."
Will be a big chance for new and fringe players on both teams...away game in Ballybofey, I'd take a draw right now...maybe both teams would

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 12257 - 21/01/2020 13:26:05    2261316

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Replying To TheBishop:  "Sigerson is over for Ryan O'Donoghue, McDonagh & Carr, why they missing?"
O'Donoghue and Carr were injured the last few weeks anyway.

MayoDan (Mayo) - Posts: 575 - 21/01/2020 14:53:31    2261339

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Replying To MayoDan:  "O'Donoghue and Carr were injured the last few weeks anyway."
I feel that the ladies game does not get enough attention on here as in many other public forums for me. We have feelings too and I feel we should get more exposure. We train hard in all weather and no recognition. I think it is regrettable that we have this misogyny permeates through the GAA.

areyouconcernnnned (Longford) - Posts: 11 - 21/01/2020 15:01:22    2261341

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Replying To MayoDan:  "O'Donoghue and Carr were injured the last few weeks anyway."
Yep and McDonagh has a niggly injury too.

MarkRule (Mayo) - Posts: 41 - 21/01/2020 15:12:39    2261345

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Kerry - finalists at least
Galway - finalist I reckon and could win this league title.
Dublin - much like last year and probably miss out on a final
Mayo - tough set of fixtures but shouldn't have any relegation worries
Donegal - mid table
Tyrone - could reach the final also but will likely finish 3rd or 4th in the table
Meath - so long out of div 1 and troubled injury, will be competitive but relegated
Monaghan - awful replacement for O'Rourke, won't be lucky two years in a row relegated.

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 4071 - 21/01/2020 15:14:45    2261347

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "Can we all agree all teams are missing players. Let's get over the sob stories. At no time in any sport are you going to get a full squad injury free.

Kerry to win it. Galway to get to final.

Meath and Mayo to get relegated."
Agree, looks like majority of Division One teams will have to rely on lads who would not start if all were fit, a chance for some panel members to show their worth. Also think it will be a Kerry/Galway final. Not sure where Meath are at, great to get promotion last year, however many of the teams we played in Div Two were missing several. Little comparison to their championship teams. Super 8s were a bit of an eye opener but nonetheless great experience which hopefully will stand to us this year. Sundays game is a great test and should throw some light on where Meath football is at present.

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2257 - 21/01/2020 15:25:59    2261354

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Replying To seadog54:  "Agree, looks like majority of Division One teams will have to rely on lads who would not start if all were fit, a chance for some panel members to show their worth. Also think it will be a Kerry/Galway final. Not sure where Meath are at, great to get promotion last year, however many of the teams we played in Div Two were missing several. Little comparison to their championship teams. Super 8s were a bit of an eye opener but nonetheless great experience which hopefully will stand to us this year. Sundays game is a great test and should throw some light on where Meath football is at present."
But we were missing players last year also. Fair is fair. Where the best footballers in Meath last year
playing for Meath ? no. Every week last year on Meath forum there was debate how this player is not playing and we are missing this player and the best players in Meath were not playing for Meath.

Lke all teams outside div 1 we were losing 11, 12 plus players a year. Look at Cavan and Roscmoon have lost players this year when they back in div 2. If we get relegated we will also lose players next year.

Anyway we were missing in last years league were Joey Wallace , Eamon Wallace , Ronan Jones, Brian Conlon, Paddy Kennelly, Donal lenihan, Alan Forde ( and Padraig Harnan missed the whole league) and Shane Walsh ( Andy called Shane up to the panel last year and and he was training with the team before Christmas but had to drop out of the panel in January to concentrate on his leaving Cert studies, and not returning to play his first game in August in the last game of the year v kerry). We were missing some of the best players in the county eg the best forward in the county eg D lenihan , best midfielder in the county eg R Jones and some of the best footballers in the county eg B Conlon, J Wallace, S Walsh. Fair is fair we were missing player in the last few years, especially last year.

Great news they are back this year. And the addition of new players like Shane Walsh , Jack O Connor , Matthew Costello , Jordan Morris , Daithi McGowan , Robin Clarke , David Toner and Dominic Yorke to the panel this year and the return of ex panelist/players like Joey Wallace, Eamon Wallace, Ronan Jones, Brian Conlon , Paddy Kennelly, Donal Lenihan and the calling up of ex Galway Footballer Oisin O Brien to the panel means the Meath panel when everyone is fit will be much stronger then this year, then last year. All these new players some of the best footballers in Meath who werent playing for Meath last year is a positive and hugely helpful addition in Andy McEntees attempt to keep Meath in div 1. When you compare the depth of the Meath panel now and additions now to the super 8 panel Meath had last summer and in the spring; there is significant and hugely positive changes.

One example last year we had 3 midfield option Brian Menton, Shane McEntee ( wing back) and Adam Flanagan. This year we have these 8 midfield options eg Brian Menton , Shane McEntee , Brian Conlon , Ronan Jones ( after March ), Paddy kennelly , Thomas Murtagh and Daithi McGowan. These are all the midfielders McEntee has called up to the senior panel. Throughout all of last year he had 3 or 4 midfield options which included a half. Only 2 out and out midfielders on the panel last year compared to the 7 Andy currently is working with. When he has to trim down the panel he will have difficult choices who drop of his midfield options.

For example When Shane McEntee was injured v Clare in the qualifier to get into the super 8s we had to bring on a 20 year old corner back to replace him as we had no other options. Last year Andy had 3 midfielder. He currently has 8 on the panel. And Ethan Devine could also play midfield , that brings up to 9.

Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 1067 - 21/01/2020 16:43:00    2261371

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What is all the support for Galway based on?
They could hardly have done worse in the championship: beat London and Sligo and lost to Roscommon and Mayo. And, even though they survived in Division 1, their only decent win was away to Mayo; in fact, that was their only decent win in the whole of 2019.
They will probably get some momentum from Padraig Joyce's arrival but he does not have a particularly impressive managerial record either.

Aibrean (Kerry) - Posts: 366 - 21/01/2020 17:07:00    2261377

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Replying To Aibrean:  "What is all the support for Galway based on?
They could hardly have done worse in the championship: beat London and Sligo and lost to Roscommon and Mayo. And, even though they survived in Division 1, their only decent win was away to Mayo; in fact, that was their only decent win in the whole of 2019.
They will probably get some momentum from Padraig Joyce's arrival but he does not have a particularly impressive managerial record either."
New manager bounce, less injuries, should have the Corofin lads for most of the league and they reached the league final in 2018 let's not forget.

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 4071 - 21/01/2020 17:31:20    2261378

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