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Will Dublin still be getting two Super 8 games at home this year?

greatpoint (USA) - Posts: 427 - 13/01/2020 12:53:16    2259374

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I would imagine so. It really is stupid at this stage. Its not Dublins fault but the money grabbing gaa's. Absolutely no reason Dublin cant play down the country somewhere and ill tell you what Dublin fans would love the trip out of the big smoke for a big game in the middle of summer.

sourmilk93 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1142 - 13/01/2020 13:27:49    2259385

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The Dubs get whatever they want.

HEREBENJI (Donegal) - Posts: 421 - 13/01/2020 13:49:26    2259397

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Replying To HEREBENJI:  "The Dubs get whatever they want."
The Dubs get what they're given by the other 31.

Donegal's proposal last year was to give Dublin 2 home games (one in PP, one in CP) in the Super 8s but the rest of the 30 counties decided to stick with the two games in CP.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13703 - 13/01/2020 14:00:59    2259401

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Let's hope that Dublin play their games at three separate venues like every other county is expected to in the super 8 phase. Hard to argue with.

OGarmaile (Tyrone) - Posts: 248 - 13/01/2020 14:05:24    2259403

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Replying To MesAmis:  "The Dubs get what they're given by the other 31.

Donegal's proposal last year was to give Dublin 2 home games (one in PP, one in CP) in the Super 8s but the rest of the 30 counties decided to stick with the two games in CP."
Yes but you do know as a county board if you vote against what you are told by the Gaa the next time you go looking for funding for a project you will be told where to go. I wouldnt read anything into these votes they are alway bought of to suit the gaa and smaller counties are bullied into voting what they are told to do

sourmilk93 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1142 - 13/01/2020 14:23:01    2259410

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Replying To OGarmaile:  "Let's hope that Dublin play their games at three separate venues like every other county is expected to in the super 8 phase. Hard to argue with."
Agreed.

Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 13/01/2020 14:29:15    2259414

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Replying To MesAmis:  "The Dubs get what they're given by the other 31.

Donegal's proposal last year was to give Dublin 2 home games (one in PP, one in CP) in the Super 8s but the rest of the 30 counties decided to stick with the two games in CP."
The reason widely given it for the motion not passing was that the specific wording chosen by Donegal was unclear. The rest of the counties (including Dublin) supposedly agreed with the spirit of making the Super 8 home/away allocation fair and equal to everyone. Given that there has been no mention of it since then it looks like for the third year running Dublin will given double the home games of any other county. Were those who voted against the motion due to the wording but supposedly agreed with the spirit being dishonest when they said as much?

greatpoint (USA) - Posts: 427 - 13/01/2020 14:58:01    2259422

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Replying To greatpoint:  "The reason widely given it for the motion not passing was that the specific wording chosen by Donegal was unclear. The rest of the counties (including Dublin) supposedly agreed with the spirit of making the Super 8 home/away allocation fair and equal to everyone. Given that there has been no mention of it since then it looks like for the third year running Dublin will given double the home games of any other county. Were those who voted against the motion due to the wording but supposedly agreed with the spirit being dishonest when they said as much?"
To play in the Super Eights, you must either win a provisional title or come through the qualifiers. While Dublin are favourites to qualify for Super Eights, remember they are not there yet or indeed any other county. The arguement of where matches are played only comes into question once Super eights are decided.

Jack L (None) - Posts: 3099 - 13/01/2020 16:12:10    2259447

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Replying To OGarmaile:  "Let's hope that Dublin play their games at three separate venues like every other county is expected to in the super 8 phase. Hard to argue with."
I actually thought that they were going to amend the wording to "neutral venue" and dispense with the "Croke Park" fixture wording which is the source of the problem. We'll play anywhere.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 13/01/2020 16:14:02    2259448

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Replying To OGarmaile:  "Let's hope that Dublin play their games at three separate venues like every other county is expected to in the super 8 phase. Hard to argue with."
Lets hope the super 8s dont last much longer

Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 13/01/2020 18:04:48    2259474

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Replying To sourmilk93:  "Yes but you do know as a county board if you vote against what you are told by the Gaa the next time you go looking for funding for a project you will be told where to go. I wouldnt read anything into these votes they are alway bought of to suit the gaa and smaller counties are bullied into voting what they are told to do"
Have you evidence of this??

hamsterdean (Limerick) - Posts: 223 - 13/01/2020 19:00:17    2259491

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Replying To Breezy:  "Lets hope the super 8s dont last much longer"
I'm not hugely against the super 8s. Just the timing of them in the championship is a bit odd. And the fact that some counties play multiple games at the same venue which does not promote a level playing field.

OGarmaile (Tyrone) - Posts: 248 - 14/01/2020 12:06:17    2259677

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Replying To sourmilk93:  "Yes but you do know as a county board if you vote against what you are told by the Gaa the next time you go looking for funding for a project you will be told where to go. I wouldnt read anything into these votes they are alway bought of to suit the gaa and smaller counties are bullied into voting what they are told to do"
Would like to know this too. It's quite an accusation to make.

lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 758 - 14/01/2020 12:32:35    2259684

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Replying To Jack L:  "To play in the Super Eights, you must either win a provisional title or come through the qualifiers. While Dublin are favourites to qualify for Super Eights, remember they are not there yet or indeed any other county. The arguement of where matches are played only comes into question once Super eights are decided."
Dublin are 95% certain of getting there so these arguments should begin now. If we leave it till they cakewalk Leinster, there won't be enough time left to discuss and implement changes. In any case, hopefully the quarter finals come back next year and hopefully they're all played in neutral provincial venues

eoghan6688 (Galway) - Posts: 154 - 14/01/2020 12:39:10    2259685

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I did not realise that they have already qualified for the super 8s.

Gator (Monaghan) - Posts: 238 - 14/01/2020 12:49:51    2259688

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Replying To Joxer:  "I actually thought that they were going to amend the wording to "neutral venue" and dispense with the "Croke Park" fixture wording which is the source of the problem. We'll play anywhere."
They were going to but it appears to no longer be the case. It's all well and good to say "we'll play anywhere" and if that's the Dublin team's attitude it's commendable but until this imbalance is solved it doesn't really matter how many fans or players come out and say that. It rings hollow when Dublin as an intercounty entity are still enjoying the benefits of a biased system.

greatpoint (USA) - Posts: 427 - 14/01/2020 14:07:28    2259709

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Replying To lilylanger:  "Would like to know this too. It's quite an accusation to make."
Tried numerous time get a post through but cant. Basically i have it from a very reliable source who is on the Roscommon County Board

sourmilk93 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1142 - 14/01/2020 14:17:22    2259710

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Replying To greatpoint:  "They were going to but it appears to no longer be the case. It's all well and good to say "we'll play anywhere" and if that's the Dublin team's attitude it's commendable but until this imbalance is solved it doesn't really matter how many fans or players come out and say that. It rings hollow when Dublin as an intercounty entity are still enjoying the benefits of a biased system."
Unfortunately it's not within Dublin's gift to change it. Other counties collectively make these decisions and probably for money reasons. There lies the blame.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 14/01/2020 17:44:17    2259761

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Replying To sourmilk93:  "Tried numerous time get a post through but cant. Basically i have it from a very reliable source who is on the Roscommon County Board"
Would that reliable source be Kingdomboy? He has lots of reliable sources. He once stopped all Dublin tourists on their way into Kerry to ask them did the Dublin players hold down full time jobs. They all told him that their employers let them off for the summer to play football. True story.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 14/01/2020 17:48:07    2259764

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