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Yellow Hurling Ball

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I read they are 8 years at it. 8 years to change the color of a ball. God help the GAA. With all the issues in the Association this is what they roll out after 8 years.

gatha (Kilkenny) - Posts: 115 - 11/12/2019 21:48:37    2254354

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Replying To gatha:  "I read they are 8 years at it. 8 years to change the color of a ball. God help the GAA. With all the issues in the Association this is what they roll out after 8 years."
They should be more concerned with the weight of the sliotar - it's too light.

midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 169 - 11/12/2019 22:36:30    2254360

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I think the yellow ball could be a good idea as it may help umpires with the posts being white too .
What I would be more concerned with is standardisation on the match sliotar. There is world of difference between different sliotar manufacturer's. Referees and umpires/linesmen need to enforce this better. Time and time again any close up camera shot will show an array of different manufacturer's. Oneills is the only ball used for football matches so should be enforced properly for hurling too.
Both lidl and aldi sell sliotars with the official clg stamp and there's no comparison to an oneills sliotar.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 880 - 12/12/2019 13:03:53    2254424

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Replying To Bon:  "I think the yellow ball could be a good idea as it may help umpires with the posts being white too .
What I would be more concerned with is standardisation on the match sliotar. There is world of difference between different sliotar manufacturer's. Referees and umpires/linesmen need to enforce this better. Time and time again any close up camera shot will show an array of different manufacturer's. Oneills is the only ball used for football matches so should be enforced properly for hurling too.
Both lidl and aldi sell sliotars with the official clg stamp and there's no comparison to an oneills sliotar."
Never understood why all IC competitions dont have an official match ball. Any other ball sport I can think of does it both for reasons of fairness and definatly for the sponsorship money

Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 845 - 12/12/2019 15:28:31    2254446

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Its more than just a colour change is it not? My understanding is it contains a micro chip. Something they've trialled at the Fenway Classic. Apart from data gathering it'll help standardise the ball

Maroonatic (Galway) - Posts: 928 - 12/12/2019 15:38:54    2254447

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It beggars description to hear players criticizing this change, especially former ones. Its got to be interviewers asking silly questions or else these people have nothing to contribute and are just trying to be relevant saying something.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 775 - 12/12/2019 18:44:35    2254485

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Replying To Canuck:  "It beggars description to hear players criticizing this change, especially former ones. Its got to be interviewers asking silly questions or else these people have nothing to contribute and are just trying to be relevant saying something."
100%.
I heard a quote from one player 'if its not broken why fix it'.
Nobody said it was broken but surely its no harm to try it out for a while. Cant see how it would have any negative impact.

ZUL10 (Clare) - Posts: 588 - 13/12/2019 23:07:47    2254770

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Replying To Canuck:  "It beggars description to hear players criticizing this change, especially former ones. Its got to be interviewers asking silly questions or else these people have nothing to contribute and are just trying to be relevant saying something."
No suprise from the former ones sure everything was better in their day

Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 845 - 14/12/2019 13:23:02    2254814

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It is just sad that anyone would be so trivial about an attempt to make things easier for everyone. There was a certain stupidity to the comments also. In certain situations the yellow ball is only needed. So you are in a game and dusk or darkness arrives sooner, playing with a white ball. O no body brought the yellow ones. The wrong balls are here today etc. etc. Do some people think before commenting. Sometimes the lights are required in a day game.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 775 - 14/12/2019 18:39:24    2254848

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Sometimes on TV it is impossible to see the sliothar it can be worse under lights. It's a no brainer, but clearly not for quite a few, some brutal brainless comments.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4322 - 14/12/2019 23:20:51    2254900

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I think they should have chosen orange as the colour myself. A far more prominent and distinguishable colour. Yellow /saffron is an element of so many county colours, it wont be of great assistance to umpires when a sliotar of lowish trajectory sails near the posts against a backdrop of, say, a Hogan Stand packed with Clare supporters!

It's a welcome move though and I dont know why anyone would have an objection to it.

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1401 - 15/12/2019 08:07:18    2254921

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Replying To arock:  "Sometimes on TV it is impossible to see the sliothar it can be worse under lights. It's a no brainer, but clearly not for quite a few, some brutal brainless comments."
Exactly. Never mind personal opinion or tradition, what does the science say? Tests have shown a luminous yellow ball is much easier to see. In 1972, the International Tennis Federation began to start using yellow balls (better for TV viewers to pick out). In 2004, the Premier League switched to a yellow Nike ball during the winter months after the company's "sport-vision scientists … determined that yellow is the most visible casing colour to the human eye in lower light conditions".

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 946 - 15/12/2019 11:27:38    2254942

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Replying To Bon:  "I think the yellow ball could be a good idea as it may help umpires with the posts being white too .
What I would be more concerned with is standardisation on the match sliotar. There is world of difference between different sliotar manufacturer's. Referees and umpires/linesmen need to enforce this better. Time and time again any close up camera shot will show an array of different manufacturer's. Oneills is the only ball used for football matches so should be enforced properly for hurling too.
Both lidl and aldi sell sliotars with the official clg stamp and there's no comparison to an oneills sliotar."
Agree but man are they expensive. I'd love to have nothing but an O'Neills sliotars but at twice the price it's just not possible. Not to mention the shipping. It definitely needs standardisation but as far as performance, it's personal preference. Everyone raves about Star hurley's but to me they feel like baseball bats compared to ones I've picked up from mostly unknown hurley makers B. Barcoe(sp?) & Phelans.
Standardized & yellow = no brainer.

Gowran_Yank (Kilkenny) - Posts: 96 - 16/12/2019 11:11:13    2255114

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Replying To Gowran_Yank:  "Agree but man are they expensive. I'd love to have nothing but an O'Neills sliotars but at twice the price it's just not possible. Not to mention the shipping. It definitely needs standardisation but as far as performance, it's personal preference. Everyone raves about Star hurley's but to me they feel like baseball bats compared to ones I've picked up from mostly unknown hurley makers B. Barcoe(sp?) & Phelans.
Standardized & yellow = no brainer."
Ah yea they are expensive alright, but they should be the standard for champioship matches, then use the cheaper ones for training etc.
I thought I was the only person who doesn't like star hurleys!! ;)

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 880 - 16/12/2019 14:19:45    2255151

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The only thing about yellow is not eat snow that colour

DuhallowRed (Cork) - Posts: 109 - 17/12/2019 06:14:43    2255266

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Replying To DuhallowRed:  "The only thing about yellow is not eat snow that colour"
One of the many great things to be learned from listening to Frank Zappa

Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 845 - 17/12/2019 16:57:28    2255382

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Replying To midlands:  "They should be more concerned with the weight of the sliotar - it's too light."
Is It really tho? Ever try kicking one of them old Derby balls and compare it to a Gaelic footballer which is far heavier? Which would go further? Certainly not the light one... Its far too simplistic to say its got to do with the weight. Hurlers are better conditioned and hurls are also far better than years ago... The ball is also better quality. I dont buy the talk of making the sliothar heavier. Whats the point of it? So we can have less scores? There is also no evidence that it has been made lighter over the last 30 years.

When two balls of the same diameter are made of materials of different density and mass, the ball with the greater mass-density will travel farther if projected with the same amount of force, or at the same initial speed. So my physics research informs me. Are all sliotars equal might be a more apt question?

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 2848 - 17/12/2019 22:45:32    2255425

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Having 1 standardised sliotar for the championship should have been sorted out years back when Cork were fooling about with their special Cummins ones

Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 845 - 18/12/2019 12:04:06    2255465

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Is It really tho? Ever try kicking one of them old Derby balls and compare it to a Gaelic footballer which is far heavier? Which would go further? Certainly not the light one... Its far too simplistic to say its got to do with the weight. Hurlers are better conditioned and hurls are also far better than years ago... The ball is also better quality. I dont buy the talk of making the sliothar heavier. Whats the point of it? So we can have less scores? There is also no evidence that it has been made lighter over the last 30 years.

When two balls of the same diameter are made of materials of different density and mass, the ball with the greater mass-density will travel farther if projected with the same amount of force, or at the same initial speed. So my physics research informs me. Are all sliotars equal might be a more apt question?"
Your physics research is wrong.

Newton's Second law of motion states: Force equals mass x acceleration ( F = ma ).

Common sense tells us this. Could you kick a football with a mass of 1 kg further than a ball with a mass of 2 kg, using the same amount of force?

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 946 - 18/12/2019 13:56:57    2255484

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