Well now that I haver recovered from the hangover and the slagging let me give my tuppence worth. Firstly congratulions to Tyrone. Deserved winners on Sunday. You have two mighty men on Sean Cavanagh and Brian Dooher. You have the shrewdest manager in Mickey Harte. We must hand it to ye as ye have the upperhand on us. Now to Kerry. No apologies needed from our players. 6 All Ireland Finals in 7 year.,winning three of the last four. Any county would be delighted with half your success. From Diurmuid to Tommy plus the subs you have done us proud.To the management Regretfully I must say too slow to make changes. 3 pasengers left on the field for too long, 2 of whom should not have even started. Again congtats to Tyrone and thank you this Kerry team, you will be back. Team of the decade? with one year to go it stands,Kerry 4 Tyrone 3. Come on 99. Thank you to the Tyrone fans with whom we prehydrated and dehydrated on Sat and Sunday nights in the Merchant.

Real Kerry Fan (None) - Posts: 2957 - 23/09/2008 12:01:56    105443

Good man Con, spoken like a true louth gaa man - KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT GAA. What band-wagon? Yes I was delighted to see Tyrone win but what's wrong with that. Half the country in RoI were behind Kerry.

I stand by my statement as Kerry have not beaten any team of significance in a final in 22 years!! Prior to that they only needed to beat Dublin and Cork. Compare that to today where any all-ireland winner will have to win at least 5 very competitive matches!! Times have changed but Kerry haven't!!

Real Louth fan (Louth) - Posts: 3157 - 23/09/2008 13:17:34    105539

Hey Real Kerry Fan!

It was everybody in Ireland who called it "match of the decade" apart from Tyrone. Now the match is over it is a bit late to take that title away. You sound like a sore Kerry loser!

Real Louth fan (Louth) - Posts: 3157 - 23/09/2008 13:19:02    105541

The old argument that Kerry get a bye into the quarter no longer holds ground. Tyroine got a bye this year, and nearly blew it. In 2003 I think Armagh beat Antrim, Waterford and New York to make the quarter.

This nonsense that Kerry got "soft" all Ireland,s is nonsense. Were Tyrone's three wins soft because they never beat Limerick or Down or Tipperary in a final? Those three have never lost a final, well Tipp did lose a home final. You might as well apply that rule.

When someone rewrites the Football Immortals or something, Tyrone may well be deemed the team of the decade because they were nobodies who then won three titles. Like Wexford hurlers in the 1950s, a mere two titles, but they brought something new to the table.

Mind you, some would have us believe that Kerry were winning "soft" titles in the 1970s against arguably the second best team ever, and Kerry only got on top of the "soft" Dubs when Liston arrived.

The Dubs may well be deemed the team of the 70s, even though Kerry won more titles, because that wonderful Dublin team, a cut above anything we have today, brought new excitement to the sport.

So if we are talking on media grounds, yes, Tyrone are the team of the decade.

If we are talking on football grounds, Kerry.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 23/09/2008 18:53:13    105918

The only team that can rightfully be called the "team of the decade" are the kilkenny hurlers..

banner_boy (Clare) - Posts: 1285 - 23/09/2008 20:52:14    106004

whichever kerry man that attacked me so wrongly i was talking about this century not the last. However i have not yet gone as far as to say they are the team of the millenium, well i will confirm this after Tyrones impending 6-in-a-row!

HokeyPokey (Tyrone) - Posts: 1744 - 23/09/2008 20:52:15    106005

Real Louth Fan. I dont know how you saw begrudgery in my post. Said Tyrone were worthy winners etc. A Kerry supporter praises Tyrone and you have a problem. Great supporters in Tyrone, pity begrudgery seems to be as usual in this website from non participating counties.

Real Kerry Fan (None) - Posts: 2957 - 23/09/2008 21:32:37    106034

Sorry Banner Boy, according to Tyrone fans that will be Galway. Hurling team of the decade. Beat Kilkenny twice, the only team to do so.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 23/09/2008 22:06:13    106066

As its stands Tyrone are clearly the team of the decade, simple maths!!!

All Ireland + (Kerry v Tyrone) = Total
Kerry 4 + 0 = 4
Tyrone 3 + 3 = 6


So there it is!! So even if Kerry win the next all ireland, Tyrone are still ahead!!

Seriously though.....if Kerry are the team of the decade and Tyrone have beaten them every time they played them, then what does that make Tyrone? It depends what youre criteria is, you can make a case for either and if people want to disagree its quite easy.

Flanders (Galway) - Posts: 604 - 23/09/2008 22:24:03    106085

Ive said it before and I will say it again, Kerry have not won 4 this decade, they have won 3. The year 2000 is the 10th year of the 1990's, so its 3-3 Tyrone V Kerry with two more years to play for.

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 23/09/2008 22:42:48    106110

brendtheredhand
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Ive said it before and I will say it again, Kerry have not won 4 this decade, they have won 3. The year 2000 is the 10th year of the 1990's, so its 3-3 Tyrone V Kerry with two more years to play for.

LOL such a statement! So what youre saying is that 1990 wasnt actually in the nineties at all but 2000 was?!! Such a daftie!!

Flanders (Galway) - Posts: 604 - 23/09/2008 23:33:19    106165

Flanders, you just wanted to argue that Galway are the hurling team of the decade. I was only joking.

And bread from Tyrone, certainly the millennium started in January 2001. But not the decade.

No-one is going to tell me that 1950 was in the forties, 1990 was in the 80s, or 1940 was in the 30s. So 2010 is not in what ever you call the "Os".

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 24/09/2008 00:01:24    106185

Good man Brendtheredhand.

I suppose 1980 was the 10th year of the 70's as well.

thykingdomcome (Kerry) - Posts: 1206 - 24/09/2008 07:55:28    106231

Since 2003 Kerry have lost to only Tyrone in the Championship. In those years Tyrone were knocked out by such teams as Mayo,Laois and Meath. Now they made a great return this year and fair play to them.But we await 2009 and if Tyrone win back to back titles then although it would be four titles each, Tyrone would shade the decade.

Real Kerry Fan (None) - Posts: 2957 - 24/09/2008 10:00:56    106281

patrique
County: Antrim
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Flanders, you just wanted to argue that Galway are the hurling team of the decade. I was only joking.

Huh?!! I never mentioned Galway hurling??

Flanders (Galway) - Posts: 604 - 24/09/2008 11:16:03    106366

The decade aint over yet!

Regards,

Snufalufagus.....Laochra Gael

Snufalufagus (Dublin) - Posts: 8100 - 24/09/2008 11:32:52    106389

None of Tyrones All Irelands can be called soft, in the 3 years that the won it they beat the reigning champions in the final. However it would be bigger step if we were to go and defend our title!!!

Tyr08 (Tyrone) - Posts: 435 - 24/09/2008 11:41:14    106399

Ok listen up you mathmatical geniuses out there, you tellin me that there are 11 years in a decade, 2000 - 2010, lets start counting shall we:
2000 (1)
2001 (2)
2002 (3)
2003 (4)
2004 (5)
2006 (7)
2007 (8)
2008 (9)
2009 (10)
2010 (11)

Now I'm no stephen hawkings but most of you guys must have ran out of fingers to count by now, with the exception of Patrique whos 11th finger compliments his webbed feet!

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 24/09/2008 22:03:15    107136

Oh God, where to start, the ignorance and plain stupidity of some posters is actually beyond me! Real Louth Fan: ''Kerry's reputation now in tatters and shows up practically all of their 35 titles as token wins against make-shift opposition!!'' That has got to be one of the most nonsensical statements ever to be uttered (or typed for that matter). Kerry's reputation is not in shatters. We lost an All-Ireland Final. I hate to say it (and at the moment, probably only a Kerry person can) but big deal! It happens to one county in football every year. This does not tarnish the reputation of that team. The only reason that it is so apparent to the whole country that they lost and how, is because it is the most widely viewed match of the year and because there won't be another match for some months to come so there is much time for idle speculation about many aspects of a team's performance on the day. Taking away the sense of occasion from the match, if this loss was in a match played earlier in the year (even if it were also a loss to Tyrone) it would not be classed as having destroyed Kerry's reputation. It would have cast some doubts over them certainly but because another match would soon be forthcoming, faith would soon be restored in the team's ability. As for the second part of your statement... as I have stated many times before, and All-Ireland is not one through one match alone. Many teams have to be beaten along the way. By your logic you are saying that there are virtually no decent teams in this country at all. A winning team is not responsible for the ability of their opponents. If there were other more capable teams out there, why did they not beat them? Now that is not to say that sometimes a team loses because of a bad day at the office etc etc. But the fact remains that in the majority of cases the correct teams make it to the semi-final/final stages of the competition. Are you trying to tell me that even though in this decade alone we have beaten the likes of Armagh, Dublin, Monaghan, Cork, Mayo, Galway etc we are still not worthy winners of the title of champions...? 0305: I think if you were to pay any attention to the facts, you would realise that yes indeed we have beaten Ulster opposition. Since when are Tyrone the only team in Ulster? You ask what the Kerry posters think... well I'm not going to speak for us all but yes I do think we are the team of the decade. We are by far the most consistant. If Roger Federer or Raphael Nadal had been beaten in a few games by Tim Henman for example... would you class Tim Henman as the best player ever to grace the tennis court? No.

Skye (Kerry) - Posts: 68 - 25/09/2008 00:54:37    107201

Redhandman: Kerry are not responsible for what the media does, nor do they claim to be. Why are Kerry people being cast as bad losers, unable to say Tyrone are the team of the decade when very few Kerry people ever said this match was going to decide the team of the decade? While this match may have been the most anticipated game of the decade, that does not necessarily indicate that the winners are the team of the decade. Two entirely different things that people seem to be having a problem in distinguishing. Also, just because a team are more memorable does not mean that they are the best. From the 2004 Olympics Cian O' Connor is one of the most memorable Olympians because of his very public fall from grace. Does this make him the best Olympian? No. Back to Real Louth Fan: It may well be that Kerry only had to beat Dublin and Cork (which in itself is a falsity because they had to beat at least one or two more teams to win the final...) but just because there are only a few teams who are capable of winning an All-Ireland at a particular time does not take away from the winners. They beat what was in front of them. If other teams weren't good enough, not Kerry's problem. It is very petty to try and detract from a team's win by making stupid statements such as you are inclined to do. I understand that because Munster isn't the most competitive province that Kerry are statistically more likely to reach the later rounds of the All-Ireland Championship. However, when a team don't have many competitive matches this is seen as a disadvantage. Ye can't have it both ways, changing your stance to put down Kerry's reputation. Besides, this year Munster was the only province to have two teams in the semi-finals, if Ulster is so fantastic where were there other teams? Also, last year both finalists were from Munster. Again, where were all these absolutely amazing, never-before-seen-the-likes-of-'em teams from Ulster? Do people start bashing Dublins wins because they only had eh... Meath and perhaps Kildare to beat? You keep repeating this ''soft All-Ireland'' nonsense. There is no such thing. Tyrone beat Dublin this year by 12 points. By your logic, they had a soft All-Ireland. Through the back door, beating a team by a larger margin in the quarter-final, beating Wexford in the semi (no disrespect to Wexford intended) and then beating a Kerry team that you think is useless. If that's your logic, fine, but stick to your guns. Tyrone have a soft All-Ireland in the bag. Sorted. You say soft All-Irelands don't count so really they have only won two titles that count... Ya, exactly, rubbish. You'd wanna sort your head out and think through your arguements before you start spewing rubbish all over the place. Brendtheredhand: Tell me, was 1990 part of the 90's or the 80's? The nineties right? So by your logic, you are saying that in fact there were 11 years in the 90's, 2000 being the eleventh! This present decade started in 2000. It will end in 2009. In 2010 the 10's will start. That is as simple as we can make it for you. You were dead right when you said you were no Stephen Hawking.

Skye (Kerry) - Posts: 68 - 25/09/2008 01:34:43    107203