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Hear hear
kick_it (Leitrim) - Posts: 15 - 13/10/2019 14:41:48 2243158 Link 3 |
There , there.
Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 13/10/2019 15:09:01 2243160 Link 3 |
Hardly that exciting and unpredictable if 9 of the last 11 Ulster Championships have been won by just two counties. The Provincial Championships are in serious trouble with only one or two counties dominating in each.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 13/10/2019 15:50:16 2243162 Link 6 |
4 won in last 12 seasons if u want to reframe slightly.
Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 13/10/2019 16:20:47 2243164 Link 0 |
Imagine how much money it would take to buy Meath an AI. I'd say the GDP figure of the USA would have nothing on it.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 13/10/2019 16:24:43 2243165 Link 7 |
Ha this is spot on
Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 13/10/2019 16:46:32 2243171 Link 1 |
Classic.... lol.
Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3725 - 13/10/2019 21:05:58 2243238 Link 1 |
A bit harsh on Connacht. They have 3 teams that have a realistic chance of winning a provincial title - like Ulster. They had a team that was knocked out of their provincial championship early (Mayo) beating a the Ulster champions just like Ulster had a team that was knocked out of their provincial championship early (Tyrone) beating a the Connacht champions. Doesn't sound like Connacht is "well behind".
Kurt_Angle (Dublin) - Posts: 567 - 14/10/2019 12:29:30 2243371 Link 1 |
Part of the problem is the thread heading - it names two counties and states that they both have an unfair advantage. It would be better to concentrate on the provincial system and to suggest ways of replacing it with a more competitive and fair system.
baire (Galway) - Posts: 1785 - 14/10/2019 13:28:38 2243393 Link 1 |
The provincial system is a big problem. 5(7), 6, 9 and 12 counties competing in each province. In Munster 90% of titles won by Cork or Kerry. In Connacht 96% of titles shared between Galway, Mayo and Roscommon. Leinster Dublin have won more the 2nd-5th highest winners combined ie Meath, Kildare, Offaly & Wexford. Ulster given that Cavan are not the powerhouse they had been up to 50yrs ago is the only competitive province with Monaghan, Tyrone, Armagh, Down, Donegal or Derry all capable of regularly coming out tops against one another. AnFearBan1234 (Meath) - Posts: 110 - 14/10/2019 13:39:38 2243397 Link 0 |
And taking those 12 years, 4 different winners but also all 9 Counties have appeared in a final in that time.
Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 14/10/2019 14:13:00 2243406 Link 1 |
Yes, that too. 2010, 2011, 2014, 2015, 2016 all close games. 2013 and 2015 Monaghan massive underdogs beat Donegal. Every year there is an upset in any given round. Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 14/10/2019 15:55:50 2243448 Link 0 |
That's a fair point.
Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4210 - 14/10/2019 17:20:42 2243480 Link 5 |
We have a very successful junior team which we enter into the junior championship every year can ye say the same?
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 16/10/2019 07:50:13 2243860 Link 3 |
"I see they also pulled the hurling minor team as well." What did they pull out of? oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1380 - 16/10/2019 09:45:09 2243881 Link 3 |
The Provincial championships are a waste of time, they had their use, the best thing would be to ditch them altogether. You simply cannot build proper competitions with those obsolete structures.
arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4895 - 20/10/2019 22:43:02 2244671 Link 0 |
Ditch the provincials, ditch the winter/spring league baire (Galway) - Posts: 1785 - 21/10/2019 08:59:11 2244702 Link 1 |
Now congress have bottled it or over politicized it with a self serving agenda. It will be left up to the fixture review committee to bring about meaningful change, from what i have heard so far they are looking at trying to equalize the provinces with counties migrating to different provinces to make the them more competitive., rounding up more equal numbers so every one will have the same number of counties and game in the provinces.
TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 21/10/2019 09:32:11 2244707 Link 2 |
If they are hell bent on keeping the provincials alive then that is not a terrible plan but it is fraught with difficulties at the same time. There is a precedent with Galway in the hurling but that was one county. If you are trying to swap multiple counties around the place it could get very messy and you'll still have anomalies. Ulster and Connaught will probably argue that they are doing just fine and may resist change. Who can they realistically drop in to Munster / Leinster to make them more competitive? Division one counties will not want to move provinces you would imagine. GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 21/10/2019 10:50:29 2244722 Link 5 |
The snippets i have heard, have been Ulster Counties migrating to Connacht and Leinster into Munster. That makes no sense to me, amalgamate the two most competitive provincial championships and then amalgamate the two weakest. If it was Connacht into Munster and Ulster into Leinster it would make more sense. I cant see it being a long term solution, quality and success are moving targets, once its done its done and it will be the same old thing with counties appexing and regressing. Perhaps if they had a minimum requirement for so many Div 1 teams in a province it could work, but then you run the risk of teams not minding getting relegated to have a handier championship. This, congress and the new rules all seem very reactionary to a specific moment in time to me and no long terms future proofing built into almost anything as the game is about to be diced up and football as we know it forever to be changed a big risk within that of it not being for the better. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 21/10/2019 11:40:56 2244735 Link 2 |