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It is a foul to throw the ball in any circumstances.
Aibrean (Kerry) - Posts: 263 - 06/09/2019 14:24:36 2233313 Link 0 |
The crucial difference is that he miscontrolled it and therefore would not be deemed to be in possesion of the ball. It would have for the referee to decide if he was in posession of the ball when he struck it to the net
Sindar (Roscommon) - Posts: 348 - 06/09/2019 14:40:03 2233319 Link 0 |
No foul
Sindar (Roscommon) - Posts: 348 - 06/09/2019 14:42:05 2233320 Link 0 |
Finally, and this one is a little less tricky. Aibrean (Kerry) - Posts: 263 - 06/09/2019 15:50:20 2233332 Link 0 |
Isn't it about being in control/possesion of the ball as well? Grey_Wolf (Leitrim) - Posts: 235 - 06/09/2019 16:09:36 2233338 Link 0 |
Ime not off my rocker, as people who apparently love rugby, one of the slowest ball games I have ever witnessed, have notroiously long restart methods/rules...me excluded everyone thinks its a great game!!!..of course it wouldnt work..
Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 06/09/2019 16:11:46 2233339 Link 0 |
And that's one of the reasons why I'm asking! :) Consider this one - https://www.gaa.ie/gaa-now/seamus-callanan-goal-x9406/ If the ball had gone another yard or so away from him, and the number 8 (is it Michael Breen?) had struck it instead, it should be given as a throw pass and a free out. So what makes it okay for a player to basically throw it to himself, when he can't throw it the same way to anybody else? Should the goal here have been allowed at all? By the way, am not having a dig at Callanan, and have no gripe about this match in particular. Am just using it to illustrate a point. Saw something similar in a club match recently, except the "throw" was a good five yards, instead of the one or two that Callanan did here. But yer man didn't score in the club game....it happened well out the field....so there was no big hullaballoo about it. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2251 - 06/09/2019 16:15:00 2233340 Link 0 |
Jaysus - I'm not surprised. There's no room for a game of football inside a pub. Somebody's drink is bound to get spilled.
lionofludesch (Down) - Posts: 475 - 06/09/2019 16:17:32 2233341 Link 2 |
Throwing the ball in after every score would just encourage stupid soccer-style choreographed celebrations. lionofludesch (Down) - Posts: 475 - 06/09/2019 16:18:56 2233342 Link 0 |
My interpretation would be he has fouled the ball once he hops it the second time. Once the ball hits the ground the foul has occurred and a free given. Had he unintentionally dropped the ball he has lost possession and no foul
TheDigger (USA) - Posts: 84 - 06/09/2019 16:21:04 2233343 Link 0 |
So a player can pass the ball over the head of an opponent, allow it to bounce off the ground, then gather possession again. Why is the ground a break in possession in this scenario but not in a scoring scenario?
TheDigger (USA) - Posts: 84 - 06/09/2019 16:23:18 2233344 Link 0 |
I reckon that not only is this not a foul, but he'd actually even be allowed to dribble it basketball-style for as far as he could manage, so long as he didn't catch it a second time. Could be wrong, though. Am very much a hurling man more than a football one..... Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2251 - 06/09/2019 16:27:17 2233345 Link 0 |
What did the player do with the ball when he bounced it the second time?
achara (Monaghan) - Posts: 563 - 06/09/2019 16:44:05 2233347 Link 0 |
Nothing. He did not touch it in any way.
Aibrean (Kerry) - Posts: 263 - 06/09/2019 16:54:41 2233351 Link 0 |
I'd imagine if he didn't catch the hop and just belted it with his fist as it bounced up it would be a score?.
The_Fonz (Westmeath) - Posts: 213 - 07/09/2019 01:08:26 2233402 Link 0 |
No, he does not "allow it to bounce off the ground". He catches it in the air.
Aibrean (Kerry) - Posts: 263 - 07/09/2019 11:03:33 2233421 Link 0 |
A player can legally hop the ball several times once he doesn't catch it. John Galvin of Limerick used to do this regularly and very effectively.
Westfester (Limerick) - Posts: 944 - 10/09/2019 20:22:44 2234190 Link 0 |
No foul. Consider the rulebook definition of a hop or 'bounce' as it's called in the rulebook. 1. BOUNCE For a player who has caught the ball to play the ball against the ground with his hand(s) and to catch it on return to his hand(s) again. [/I] So, if he does not catch the ball again he has not completed a second hop/bounce and has not fouled the ball. He can, of course, now fist or kick the ball. I have seen referees blow for this; they are wrong. Aibrean (Kerry) - Posts: 263 - 11/09/2019 05:44:43 2234274 Link 0 |
The goal would be a legitimate goal. A hop/bounce is only completed when the player catches the ball. This is in accordance with the definition of a hop/bounce: For a player who has caught the ball to play the ball against the ground with his hand(s) and to catch it on return to his hand(s) again. Accordingly, the player is NOT 'deemed to be in possession of the ball' unless he catches it and is free to punch or kick it away - even into the net. Aibrean (Kerry) - Posts: 263 - 11/09/2019 05:56:39 2234275 Link 0 |
No foul.
Aibrean (Kerry) - Posts: 263 - 11/09/2019 05:59:46 2234276 Link 0 |