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Replying To border Gael:  "If Michael Murphy is being considered surly Cathal Mc Shane should be considered also. At the moment he's the highest scorer in the championship."
The only only people considering Murphy are Donegal people. There is not a chance he will get it. He had a great year but Donegal crashed out way to early. McShane would be ahead of Murphy in my opinion too

sourmilk93 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1145 - 28/08/2019 09:02:12    2230010

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Remind me when did Murphy score 5 outrageous points from play against the meanest defense in gaa or get two goals against the best man marker in the gaa ?

He didn't ,he kicked a load of wides and fell on his knees for the softest penalty you'll ever see as his team wimped out against Mayo, great player but nowhere near Mannion's or Con's level this year.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 28/08/2019 10:55:11    2230044

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Its between Moran, Mannion and Fenton for me
If Kerry win on Sunday then I would expect Moran would have to have a great game to do so and would make him a shoe in then. But its hard to look beyond Mannion though, he's been sensational this season. His shooting has been off the charts.
But I wouldn't rule Fenton out yet. If he has another game like he did 2nd half against Mayo then it would be tough to decide between him and Mannion. He is arguably the best footballer in the country since he first came on the scene. We take his consistency for granted at this stage.
I don't see Murphy getting in the running since Donegal crashed out before the semi's. He'll get an all star though

keithlemon (Australia) - Posts: 920 - 28/08/2019 11:15:17    2230053

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Replying To sourmilk93:  "The only only people considering Murphy are Donegal people. There is not a chance he will get it. He had a great year but Donegal crashed out way to early. McShane would be ahead of Murphy in my opinion too"
He won't get player of year but he'll get an all star. He is the complete package best all round player in Ireland.

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2410 - 28/08/2019 11:25:31    2230056

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Replying To rorysboys:  "He won't get player of year but he'll get an all star. He is the complete package best all round player in Ireland."
Dont even think he will get or deserves one. I expect Kerry and Dublin will make up the majority or the forward positions 5/6 and if anyone from another team sneaks in it most definitely will be McShane and deservely so, He led his team to an All Ireland semi and is top scorer in this years championship.

sourmilk93 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1145 - 28/08/2019 11:33:41    2230061

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Replying To sourmilk93:  "Dont even think he will get or deserves one. I expect Kerry and Dublin will make up the majority or the forward positions 5/6 and if anyone from another team sneaks in it most definitely will be McShane and deservely so, He led his team to an All Ireland semi and is top scorer in this years championship."
Top scorer yea maybe playing 9 games and being a free taker helped there.

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2410 - 28/08/2019 12:00:38    2230068

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Surely con callaghan is a shoe in for the footballer of the year he is a different class

HatchetMan2019 (Cavan) - Posts: 13 - 28/08/2019 12:01:08    2230069

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Replying To rorysboys:  "He won't get player of year but he'll get an all star. He is the complete package best all round player in Ireland."
Murphy plays midfield for Donegal he never has the same impact as Fenton has midfield never.

Every county loves to see Murphy out midfield away from the goal, does ok but nothing special when he's in near goal he's lethal no doubt.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 28/08/2019 12:04:38    2230071

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "Remind me when did Murphy score 5 outrageous points from play against the meanest defense in gaa or get two goals against the best man marker in the gaa ?

He didn't ,he kicked a load of wides and fell on his knees for the softest penalty you'll ever see as his team wimped out against Mayo, great player but nowhere near Mannion's or Con's level this year."
I didn't say he was, I said he was ahead of Clifford or Moran. I said Mannion should win it, or Fenton. It's right there in the post.

My point with the post is that some players are getting sounded out for a POTY nomination when they haven't been near Murphy's level this year.

You've had your say about Murphy v Mayo and I disagree with you, but we'll go in circles on that.

JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 28/08/2019 12:20:35    2230076

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Replying To sourmilk93:  "The only only people considering Murphy are Donegal people. There is not a chance he will get it. He had a great year but Donegal crashed out way to early. McShane would be ahead of Murphy in my opinion too"
I'm not considering him, but he's had a better individual year than quite a few of the names being bandied about. I'd agree that McShane has had a better individual year than some of the same names.

Obviously that can all change in the final but that just highlights what I find stupid about these awards. One big performance in the final and suddenly you're miles ahead of lads that did it for every single game of the championship.

And again, I think Mannion should win it. Fenton second, Sean O'Shea third. Con is up there too. If any of these 4 really turn it on in the final then they're a shoe-in for me.

JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 28/08/2019 12:27:47    2230080

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "Murphy plays midfield for Donegal he never has the same impact as Fenton has midfield never.

Every county loves to see Murphy out midfield away from the goal, does ok but nothing special when he's in near goal he's lethal no doubt."
Honestly clon this kind of post tells me you just haven't watched Donegal this year. Murphy played out around midfield against Kerry and had the game of his life. What you're saying here just isn't true about his impact.

Again, I'm not saying he should be winning POTY. But he has had an incredible 2019 no matter how often you say he choked or whatever else in Castlebar. A better 2019 than some of the names being suggested as nominees for this award.

JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 28/08/2019 12:33:39    2230087

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Replying To rorysboys:  "Top scorer yea maybe playing 9 games and being a free taker helped there."
I am sure it did help him but his scoring was still exceptional from play and he ahd a better year than Murphy. If Murphy didnt hit wide after wide at a crucial stage against Mayo, even if he passed from time to time they might have won and he would be entotled to his All star. At the minute he done F all more than say Conor Cox who wont and doesnt deserve one.

sourmilk93 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1145 - 28/08/2019 12:55:47    2230104

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Replying To JoeSoap:  "Honestly clon this kind of post tells me you just haven't watched Donegal this year. Murphy played out around midfield against Kerry and had the game of his life. What you're saying here just isn't true about his impact.

Again, I'm not saying he should be winning POTY. But he has had an incredible 2019 no matter how often you say he choked or whatever else in Castlebar. A better 2019 than some of the names being suggested as nominees for this award."
Joe it was in reply to a poster who says he's the all round best package , yes he had a great game against Kerry but to say he's all round the best package is wrong when he can be very average in midfield for a lot of games where he's running around doing nothing.

Again great player lethal inside.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 28/08/2019 13:00:02    2230106

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "Joe it was in reply to a poster who says he's the all round best package , yes he had a great game against Kerry but to say he's all round the best package is wrong when he can be very average in midfield for a lot of games where he's running around doing nothing.

Again great player lethal inside."
Fair enough clon I'm jumping to Murphy's defence very eagerly here haha

JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 28/08/2019 14:52:38    2230156

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Who cares about Footballer of the Year, the key question is who will beat Cluxton to the All-Star

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 28/08/2019 16:16:20    2230201

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Replying To sourmilk93:  "The only only people considering Murphy are Donegal people. There is not a chance he will get it. He had a great year but Donegal crashed out way to early. McShane would be ahead of Murphy in my opinion too"
I for one am not from Donegal but he is the most all-round and valuable player on view this year. There is no player more valuable to their team than Murphy is to Donegal. Does a tremendous job without the support other players named have.
It is regrettable that the player of the year award id usually confined to the two finalists.

Gaa Fan (USA) - Posts: 749 - 28/08/2019 18:34:12    2230228

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Replying To witnof:  "Who cares about Footballer of the Year, the key question is who will beat Cluxton to the All-Star"
Shane Ryan cert for all star in goals

kerryforsam19 (Kerry) - Posts: 95 - 28/08/2019 22:05:39    2230283

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Replying To sourmilk93:  "I am sure it did help him but his scoring was still exceptional from play and he ahd a better year than Murphy. If Murphy didnt hit wide after wide at a crucial stage against Mayo, even if he passed from time to time they might have won and he would be entotled to his All star. At the minute he done F all more than say Conor Cox who wont and doesnt deserve one."
Hit 1-4 against Mayo and dragged Donegal back into it, scored 1-7 against Kerry, bossed the game against Meath, bossed the game against Tyrone in Ulster. And you compare that to Cox, that's such a joke honestly.

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1321 - 28/08/2019 22:56:04    2230298

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I think its between Fenton and O' Callaghan but probably Fenton for me. He just oozes class and if he has a good final then I think he'll win it. If Kerry win on Sunday and Sean O' Shea has a big game then he's probably one of the few Kerry players that would be at that level to be in with a shout.

Tir Conaill Abu (Donegal) - Posts: 1671 - 28/08/2019 23:34:53    2230307

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Replying To Donegal_abroad:  "Hit 1-4 against Mayo and dragged Donegal back into it, scored 1-7 against Kerry, bossed the game against Meath, bossed the game against Tyrone in Ulster. And you compare that to Cox, that's such a joke honestly."
He did do little more than cox he led his team to a provincial title.Thats it. Had a good game against Kerry i agree. When push came to shove against Mayo he kicked wide after wide. So enough crap apart him doing this and that re-watch the game and look how gready he was shooting terrible wides. If he passed the ball now and again Donegal may have reached a Semi final

sourmilk93 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1145 - 29/08/2019 10:28:15    2230360

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