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Probably too hard to call before the final but who would everyone's picks be? I don't think anyone is a shoe in this year as its very close and a big performance in the final could be the deciding factor. I am going to go with Clifford/Con (providing they but in a good performance) boman11 (Antrim) - Posts: 237 - 24/08/2019 08:32:02 2228954 Link
Brian Fenton really, but it would be unusual for a player to get it two years on the bounce, not sure its been done before Con, Mannion, Jack if they have good finals are in the running. Con has been different level this year. Stephen O Brien has had a great year as has David Moran, id be a big Sean O Shea fan myself and would have him ahead of the Clifford given league and championship, hes a footballers footballer. Clifford has been good but not player of the year good in my opinion, he has a high profile though and fills the column inches. Depends what they all do in a final and who wins it really. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 24/08/2019 10:11:29 2228971 Link
Replying To boman11: "Probably too hard to call before the final but who would everyone's picks be? I don't think anyone is a shoe in this year as its very close and a big performance in the final could be the deciding factor. I am going to go with Clifford/Con (providing they but in a good performance)" Jack McCaffrey, Paul Mannion, David Moran, Stephen O'Brien would be my 4 Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 24/08/2019 10:20:12 2228973 Link
Replying To TheUsername: "Brian Fenton really, but it would be unusual for a player to get it two years on the bounce, not sure its been done before Con, Mannion, Jack if they have good finals are in the running. Con has been different level this year. Stephen O Brien has had a great year as has David Moran, id be a big Sean O Shea fan myself and would have him ahead of the Clifford given league and championship, hes a footballers footballer. Clifford has been good but not player of the year good in my opinion, he has a high profile though and fills the column inches. Depends what they all do in a final and who wins it really." Big fan of Sean O Shea myself, another one with bags of potential. I think a lot of Cliffords performances this year have went under the radar (because there already is so much hype about him) and especially when he hasn't scored heavy. Off the ball he is absolutely fantastic, his movement on the inside is second to none in my opinion he is a very intelligent player.. but I do take your point of maybe not being player of the year good this year but I think it is debatable. For such a young lad he has stepped up with some big performances this year in league and championship. Although we all know its the business end of championship and how far you get that can really decide this award. Off the back of big games against the likes of Mayo and Tyrone in the later stages of championship I reckon a big final could see him take it. Stephen O Brien has had a great year too to be fair, along with 3 or 4 Dublin players nothing is nailed down so definitely some big performances required. Should be a great game. boman11 (Antrim) - Posts: 237 - 24/08/2019 10:41:07 2228975 Link
Unless he has a very bad final I wouldn't look beyond Paul Mannion. midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 545 - 24/08/2019 10:48:55 2228976 Link
Replying To boman11: "Big fan of Sean O Shea myself, another one with bags of potential. I think a lot of Cliffords performances this year have went under the radar (because there already is so much hype about him) and especially when he hasn't scored heavy. Off the ball he is absolutely fantastic, his movement on the inside is second to none in my opinion he is a very intelligent player.. but I do take your point of maybe not being player of the year good this year but I think it is debatable. For such a young lad he has stepped up with some big performances this year in league and championship. Although we all know its the business end of championship and how far you get that can really decide this award. Off the back of big games against the likes of Mayo and Tyrone in the later stages of championship I reckon a big final could see him take it. Stephen O Brien has had a great year too to be fair, along with 3 or 4 Dublin players nothing is nailed down so definitely some big performances required. Should be a great game." Young David is a fine player indeed, you get the feeling though he is still growing into this level and more to come, his time will come, hes all the potential in the world and if he is performing like this at 20, he will have a good chance of making an all time great, depending on what he can achieve, loads of headroom. Speaking objectively i think it would be good for him to be out of these conversations for a bit, continue to develop consisteny and grow at this level. If i was him i would be trying to lower my profile. Last year i thought there were more deserving players then him for the YPOY award, Howard, EBG and O Shea. I think it was his profile that swung if im being honest, i dont mean that to sound like he isnt a terrific player, he is, but really based on performances i thought the other three were better. Equally this year, i think people are mentioning him as POTY because he has a profile, has he really been the best player in the country? Not for me, nor would i expect him to be at 20. Hes contributed fabulously well for a 20 year old and had an excellent year 2, often a tough year, but their have been far better players. Lads not even mentioned like Michael Murphy etc i think have been better. I dont know how true it is but someone told me the other day he hasnt scored a goal this year. That said im tempting faith and he could rip us apart next Sunday, but i think its a bit of reach for him to be player of the year. I dont want people to think if cirtising Clifford here hes as good a player at 20 as weve seen, with huge head room, his time for POTY will come and he has a fair chance of becoming a great depending on what he achives, i like watching him, but best player in Ireland this year? Not for me. I think there is awful lot more to come from him, (hopefully next year). TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 24/08/2019 11:38:48 2228985 Link
Probably should say also, Young David probably deserves young player of the year this year, in my opinion. Although id be a big Jarlaith Burns fan too. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 24/08/2019 11:41:23 2228986 Link
If they've good finals it's for me; Paul Geaney David Moran Stephen O Brien David Clifford Sean O Se Con O Callaghan Jack McCaffrey Paul Mannion Brian Fenton Brian Howard Ciaran Kilkenny clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 24/08/2019 12:21:48 2228989 Link
Paul Mannion is a shoe in for FOTY. Work rate allied to skill, both feet & unlike the majority of programmed inter county players nowadays, not frozen with fear when shooting from outside the arc. moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 24/08/2019 12:30:35 2228990 Link
Replying To moc.dna: "Paul Mannion is a shoe in for FOTY. Work rate allied to skill, both feet & unlike the majority of programmed inter county players nowadays, not frozen with fear when shooting from outside the arc." Yeah and I'd say largely fear of the telling-off they'd get later for breaking "the rules" which these days have outlawed individualistic football. Fair enough, it's a team game, but the heavy hand of the manager is too obvious on too many players these days essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 24/08/2019 15:06:35 2229009 Link
Replying To Liamwalkinstown: "Jack McCaffrey, Paul Mannion, David Moran, Stephen O'Brien would be my 4" Fully agree and the final will probably tell who actually wins it. Too close to call at the moment GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 24/08/2019 22:36:47 2229065 Link
Replying To moc.dna: "Paul Mannion is a shoe in for FOTY. Work rate allied to skill, both feet & unlike the majority of programmed inter county players nowadays, not frozen with fear when shooting from outside the arc." He probably is the favourite it, I would like to see the odds though someone could be worth a few bob alright. Dublin have eased their way through many of their games this year, putting up some serious scores and big winning margins. playing as a forward in a team like this you will find yourself under a lot less pressure when in shooting positions or there abouts, the Dublin forwards are able tom play with so much freedom and generally don't have to worry too much about missing a shot in shooting range as they will likely be covered and it will be forgotten about a few minutes later after another 3 or 4 points have been tagged on. All that being said Mannion is a fantastic player and has played very well this year but I would be more inclined to give it to a player like Clifford or O Brien who have stepped up and taken games by the scruff when their county needs them. In my opinion that is more worthy of footballer of the year than someone who has been able to coast to scores and wins ( take nothing away from mannion ), especially when they have reached the final for the first time since 2015. Although I still think either of the 2 lads I mentioned would probably need a good final to take it. boman11 (Antrim) - Posts: 237 - 25/08/2019 09:19:49 2229096 Link
Darren coen or Stephen o'Brien for me whiterbannnas (Mayo) - Posts: 2441 - 26/08/2019 23:26:32 2229610 Link
Between Stephen O'Brien and David Clifford kerryforsam19 (Kerry) - Posts: 95 - 26/08/2019 23:57:56 2229618 Link
Replying To whiterbannnas: "Darren coen or Stephen o'Brien for me" lol boman11 (Antrim) - Posts: 237 - 27/08/2019 11:19:23 2229720 Link
Replying To essmac: "Yeah and I'd say largely fear of the telling-off they'd get later for breaking "the rules" which these days have outlawed individualistic football. Fair enough, it's a team game, but the heavy hand of the manager is too obvious on too many players these days" Err........It's not players from Tyrone we are talking about but players from Kerry and Dublin. witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 27/08/2019 12:48:59 2229765 Link
All this talk of Clifford and Moran and not a whisper of Michael Murphy. Dhia sabháil. I don't expect Murphy to get a nomination but it really highlights the "one big match" nature of these awards that he's not in the conversation here. Clifford is a fine player and I thought his performance v us was actually underrated because of an eejit of a comment from O'Rourke, but Murphy has been streets ahead of him this summer. Same goes for Moran who has had a fine game v Mayo and a good second half v Tyrone. The only time Murphy wasn't at his absolute best was against Mayo and even then he nearly dragged us to the semi-final only for some poor wides (by his own standards). Mannion or Fenton should win it unless Sean O'Shea has a great final, he's been Kerry's best player this summer in my opinion. JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 27/08/2019 12:56:23 2229771 Link
Moran was very good for Kerry in navan, but I think it's mannions to lose royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 27/08/2019 17:12:48 2229872 Link
Replying To JoeSoap: "All this talk of Clifford and Moran and not a whisper of Michael Murphy. Dhia sabháil. I don't expect Murphy to get a nomination but it really highlights the "one big match" nature of these awards that he's not in the conversation here. Clifford is a fine player and I thought his performance v us was actually underrated because of an eejit of a comment from O'Rourke, but Murphy has been streets ahead of him this summer. Same goes for Moran who has had a fine game v Mayo and a good second half v Tyrone. The only time Murphy wasn't at his absolute best was against Mayo and even then he nearly dragged us to the semi-final only for some poor wides (by his own standards). Mannion or Fenton should win it unless Sean O'Shea has a great final, he's been Kerry's best player this summer in my opinion." Michael Murphy. Gaa Fan (USA) - Posts: 749 - 27/08/2019 19:25:25 2229901 Link
If Michael Murphy is being considered surly Cathal Mc Shane should be considered also. At the moment he's the highest scorer in the championship. border Gael (Monaghan) - Posts: 894 - 27/08/2019 22:30:14 2229963 Link