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Why Are Kerry The Worst Supported County In Ireland ?

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At a very poorly attended Semi Final of just over 30000 maybe there were 6000 Kerry Fans if that ?

Should Kerry get 1/4 of Dublin Allocation for the Final ...with such low intrest in supporting every Kerry man with a remote intrest in the final will be in Croke Park ?

I can't imagine any other team even Leitrim bring less supporters to an All Ireland Semi Final ?

eamonnmac (Cavan) - Posts: 59 - 15/08/2019 23:36:16    2226224

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Replying To eamonnmac:  "At a very poorly attended Semi Final of just over 30000 maybe there were 6000 Kerry Fans if that ?

Should Kerry get 1/4 of Dublin Allocation for the Final ...with such low intrest in supporting every Kerry man with a remote intrest in the final will be in Croke Park ?

I can't imagine any other team even Leitrim bring less supporters to an All Ireland Semi Final ?"
They only bother with finals in Kerry, I do agree with you when you say Kerry should only get 1/4 of what dublin get maybe that might encourage them to support there team all year round.

Royal.Legend (Meath) - Posts: 665 - 16/08/2019 10:04:43    2226274

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First off all. Kerry is huge county size wise. Now I spose Mayo is similar but mayo haven't won Sam in 500 years so they are longing for something whereas we're in a final most years. That's not to say kerry people don't care. Of course we do. I think kerry fans have been good with this new team . Leave attendances have been good. Killarney vs Mayo sell out. Brought 22 thousand to Croke Park for Donegal. There was 13 thousand vs Tyrone also. We will bring 30 or 40 thousand to croker in September 1st and bring Sam home to its ritual hanitat

Kerrymanlegend (Kerry) - Posts: 31 - 16/08/2019 10:15:50    2226279

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Replying To eamonnmac:  "At a very poorly attended Semi Final of just over 30000 maybe there were 6000 Kerry Fans if that ?

Should Kerry get 1/4 of Dublin Allocation for the Final ...with such low intrest in supporting every Kerry man with a remote intrest in the final will be in Croke Park ?

I can't imagine any other team even Leitrim bring less supporters to an All Ireland Semi Final ?"
Nasty comment to be fair. Using your numbers 6,000 (which is laughable) it is about 4% of Kerry population. There was about 36,000 when Dublin travelled to neutral venue Croke Park v Roscommon in the Super 8s (smaller percentage of Dublin's population even allowing for all the fans to be supporting Dublin and that game was a double header). Should Dublin have their allocation reduced too? How this this thread get allowed on the board?

CletusVanDamme (Kerry) - Posts: 63 - 16/08/2019 10:36:34    2226298

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The were a lot more than 6000 supporters there last weekend, the OP is an exaggeration. There has been a marked increase in support this year throughout the league and Super 8's although last weekend was a disappointment admittedly.

There are a couple of reasons why we generally get fewer people attending games

Distance / time to CP

Cost of travel and accommodation

Games clashing with height of tourist season

Supporter fatigue, we have had a lot of big games over the years, nice problem to have of course. I think we are seeing this with Dublin now too although they have a much broader base and easier access to games. Kilkenny as well

Mayo are probably the best supported county like for like but I virtually guarantee if they had won a couple of All Ireland's their numbers would drop off. It's the hunt that keeps them going

Kerry fans have been spoilt beyond belief over the years really

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 16/08/2019 10:51:29    2226305

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Replying To GeniusGerry:  "The were a lot more than 6000 supporters there last weekend, the OP is an exaggeration. There has been a marked increase in support this year throughout the league and Super 8's although last weekend was a disappointment admittedly.

There are a couple of reasons why we generally get fewer people attending games

Distance / time to CP

Cost of travel and accommodation

Games clashing with height of tourist season

Supporter fatigue, we have had a lot of big games over the years, nice problem to have of course. I think we are seeing this with Dublin now too although they have a much broader base and easier access to games. Kilkenny as well

Mayo are probably the best supported county like for like but I virtually guarantee if they had won a couple of All Ireland's their numbers would drop off. It's the hunt that keeps them going

Kerry fans have been spoilt beyond belief over the years really"
Supporter Fatigue? Semi final was Kerry's 6th game, Tyrone's 10th and Mayo's 9th, wheres the fatigue from those counties (in particular Mayo) who have had plenty of big games in recent times.

6000 is definitely an exaggeration by OP though having been at the match myself.

Highandmighty (Leitrim) - Posts: 54 - 16/08/2019 11:09:32    2226310

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Every county has a hardcore that go to all the games, Kerry are no different. Then you have transient ones, who will go to odd games and be selective of games. No county is any different. Ive understood it more as Dublin have had a run of success, i see more and more fans, picking games, partly due to cost, partly due to spectacle and partly due to the hassle of away games etc, what you want is that tension and drama - like up to half time against Mayo last week and the second half of the other Semi last week, spectators arent really given that in the majority of the games so people have a choice to make.

Conversely, though i remember pre 2011 and i wuld say Dublin would bring a massive crowds, its kind of like Mayo at the moment, its the building of the journey to what is a crescendo of hopefully winning, I often think if Mayo won a couple back to back would their crowd taper off.

To answer the question, no way should Kerry get less of an allocation, i think participating counties get to little as it is, the breakdown of who get tickets for a final is awful, with so many hangers on getting them. Id prefer it to be 50/50 with fans only as opposed event junkies.

The best atmospheres are always semi finals, there are people at finals who have no interest in them and just there to say they were, they no nothing about the game players and inevitably wreck everyone head when they come back to their spots 15 mins after the second has started. Its sad to see. There was a lad on his phone last year heading up to the final talking to his mate and telling him where he was he was in the Qsack stand and asking was their bars int he ground. Sad to see.

Id love to see a 50/50 split with just fans like the semis. Be cracking

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 16/08/2019 11:15:57    2226313

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Kerrys home league attendances are one of the highest in the league, 10K is not unusual.
Like many rural counties many people are in close to minimum wage employments so the cost of going to Dublin and croke park ticket prices is out of reach of plenty especially family's.

OpenStand (Limerick) - Posts: 675 - 16/08/2019 11:17:00    2226314

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It really was a poor attendance for a semifinal versus two rivals with very little between them on the pitch

The game had a lot going for it yet it wasn't enough on its own to draw a big Kerry supporter. If it was against Dublin I'd wonder would more Kerry fans attended?

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 16/08/2019 11:24:12    2226319

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Replying To eamonnmac:  "At a very poorly attended Semi Final of just over 30000 maybe there were 6000 Kerry Fans if that ?

Should Kerry get 1/4 of Dublin Allocation for the Final ...with such low intrest in supporting every Kerry man with a remote intrest in the final will be in Croke Park ?

I can't imagine any other team even Leitrim bring less supporters to an All Ireland Semi Final ?"
Where did you get that figure of 6,000 from?

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 16/08/2019 11:31:42    2226327

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Replying To eamonnmac:  "At a very poorly attended Semi Final of just over 30000 maybe there were 6000 Kerry Fans if that ?

Should Kerry get 1/4 of Dublin Allocation for the Final ...with such low intrest in supporting every Kerry man with a remote intrest in the final will be in Croke Park ?

I can't imagine any other team even Leitrim bring less supporters to an All Ireland Semi Final ?"
The Puck Fair was on the same weekend.

summerof09 (Meath) - Posts: 315 - 16/08/2019 11:43:23    2226336

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There was actually a sizeable number of Kerry supporters at the Meath game in Navan.

HighKings (Meath) - Posts: 271 - 16/08/2019 12:02:46    2226347

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Replying To Highandmighty:  "Supporter Fatigue? Semi final was Kerry's 6th game, Tyrone's 10th and Mayo's 9th, wheres the fatigue from those counties (in particular Mayo) who have had plenty of big games in recent times.

6000 is definitely an exaggeration by OP though having been at the match myself."
I'm talking about over the course of years, not just 2019. Like I said the same is happening with other successful counties.

And yes the 6000 figures is pure baloney plucked from the sky. The thread is a bit silly tbh

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 16/08/2019 12:06:24    2226349

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Kerry is over 4 hours from Dublin. Population only 147k. Per person in kerry more of them turned up then Dublin fans. If they play down in kerry they actually get decent numbers. Next time they play Dublin in a semi final it should be played in Thurles or Limerick.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 16/08/2019 12:13:35    2226357

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Like most other teams (Dublin and Mayo aside) Kerry have a core support that go to every match, in that repsect they are no different to anybody else. I am guessing they have have 5 or 6k loyal supporters who go to most championship matches, similar to other counties. Their home league games are always well attended. It also has to be taken into consideration how far it is from remote parts of Kerry to Croke Park.

As for the All-Ireland final itself, as long as the loyal supporters get their tickets I couldn't care less. Sure I remember people from Donegal looking for All-Ireland tickets in 2012 and 2014 and never been to a match all year, I would have absolutely no sympathy for them.

Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1874 - 16/08/2019 12:17:40    2226360

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Replying To Kerrymanlegend:  "First off all. Kerry is huge county size wise. Now I spose Mayo is similar but mayo haven't won Sam in 500 years so they are longing for something whereas we're in a final most years. That's not to say kerry people don't care. Of course we do. I think kerry fans have been good with this new team . Leave attendances have been good. Killarney vs Mayo sell out. Brought 22 thousand to Croke Park for Donegal. There was 13 thousand vs Tyrone also. We will bring 30 or 40 thousand to croker in September 1st and bring Sam home to its ritual hanitat"
Total attendance at the double header Mayo/Meath and Donegal/Kerry was only 48500. 75% of crowd was from Mayo and Donegal that day. No way was there 22000 from Kerry.

Also Kerry's game against Clare attendance was only 5000. Given that game was in Ennis I'd assume Clare had a fair share of the crowd.

Mfs (Mayo) - Posts: 251 - 16/08/2019 12:18:03    2226361

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Replying To eamonnmac:  "At a very poorly attended Semi Final of just over 30000 maybe there were 6000 Kerry Fans if that ?

Should Kerry get 1/4 of Dublin Allocation for the Final ...with such low intrest in supporting every Kerry man with a remote intrest in the final will be in Croke Park ?

I can't imagine any other team even Leitrim bring less supporters to an All Ireland Semi Final ?"
The journey from Leitrim to Crime Park is a lot easier. The train drops you in Drumcondra.

Hawkeye9212 (Donegal) - Posts: 266 - 16/08/2019 12:21:36    2226363

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I actually think over the last 3 or 4 years Kerry's support has improved a lot.

the_walls (Mayo) - Posts: 495 - 16/08/2019 13:19:34    2226390

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A few points to note in this, Which is a topic of poor taste.
1) Kerry is not a wealthy county. It's wealth is the place itself but financially it's not a well off county.
2) Industry, large employment pool is in either farming or tourism both busy periods are Summer.
3) Distance, 7 hours return to CP for West Kerry, 8 from South.
4) Cost, 50 euro for stand on Sunday outrageous.

Overall Kerry support has improved a lot and maybe we should set up a thread about another group of fans so we can stereotype them too.
I do wonder how some of this stuff is allowed.

westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1250 - 16/08/2019 13:29:15    2226394

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Replying To GeniusGerry:  "The were a lot more than 6000 supporters there last weekend, the OP is an exaggeration. There has been a marked increase in support this year throughout the league and Super 8's although last weekend was a disappointment admittedly.

There are a couple of reasons why we generally get fewer people attending games

Distance / time to CP

Cost of travel and accommodation

Games clashing with height of tourist season

Supporter fatigue, we have had a lot of big games over the years, nice problem to have of course. I think we are seeing this with Dublin now too although they have a much broader base and easier access to games. Kilkenny as well

Mayo are probably the best supported county like for like but I virtually guarantee if they had won a couple of All Ireland's their numbers would drop off. It's the hunt that keeps them going

Kerry fans have been spoilt beyond belief over the years really"
I agree mostly with you here but, plenty of other counties have to travel a considerable distance to Croke Park and/or pay for accommodation.

Games clashing with height of tourist season

Are you serious? Presumably by this logic, you think if the championship was played in the dead of winter more Kerry people would attend as its not in the tourist season?

The only reason is because Kerry have always been so successful which has resulted Kerry fans being accustomed to success to such a degree where a semi final is not considered a special event and a must attend game, the way it would be for most other counties.

That is not a criticism. Any other county with such regular success would be the same. If Mayo had the same amount of All Ireland's their support would be the exact same.

In a way I almost feel sorry for Kerry fans, they're so accustomed to winning, they will never know the magic of a rare winning All Ireland Championship run and how it can consume counties, like Donegal experienced in 2012, Limerick last year, Armagh in 2002 etc.

Antifa (Donegal) - Posts: 143 - 16/08/2019 13:29:50    2226395

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