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Has the Sunday Game in it's current format run its course? Or are the current analysts just not up to scratch? Last night's program was so bad I went in and watched Love Island with the Mrs. reffingmad (Roscommon) - Posts: 371 - 29/07/2019 10:21:10 2218015 Link
What format would yo suggest ? What changes would make it better? catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 29/07/2019 10:47:48 2218031 Link
Replying To catch22: "What format would yo suggest ? What changes would make it better?" Well for a start analyze the major talking points of the weekend games, show more coverage of games and not all this beating around the bush and so called experts feeding their own egos. reffingmad (Roscommon) - Posts: 371 - 29/07/2019 11:02:37 2218043 Link
That was shocking stuff last night. The two lads spent 10 minutes trying to justify their own failings rather than talking about the many talking points in both games. Hopefully that's the two of them done for the rest of the year. Faithfull (Offaly) - Posts: 573 - 29/07/2019 11:03:05 2218044 Link
Des needs to go. RTÉ have better presenters. I wouldn't bring back the McGraths anymore. Cummins, Anthony Daly, and Eddie Brennan are much better analysts. Donal Óg somehow found a way to connect hurling traditionalists with the Brits. I'm it will come as a shock to all Gaels living in NI that they are the last remnant of British influence on these islands. Hawkeye9212 (Donegal) - Posts: 266 - 29/07/2019 11:04:38 2218046 Link
Have panelist that would discuss the actual game and not ex coaches using up time justifying how their own team was set up/played, blaming the 'black & tans' for the long ball etc. Appointing a presenter of Joanne Cantwell's calibre who stops a panelist going on a self promoting rant. Curlew66 (Roscommon) - Posts: 506 - 29/07/2019 11:07:03 2218049 Link
Replying To Faithfull: "That was shocking stuff last night. The two lads spent 10 minutes trying to justify their own failings rather than talking about the many talking points in both games. Hopefully that's the two of them done for the rest of the year." Agreed. I've seen some bad programmes but last night's was the worst. I couldn't understand why Des Cahill allowed Cusack and McGrath to spend so much time on their soapbox. Both were effectively abusing their position to promote their own personal agendas. License fee payers are entitled to expect so-called analysts to do what they are being paid to do (analyse the games). Cusack's comment about the Brits must go down as the craziest contributions ever on the SG, and that's saying something. midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 544 - 29/07/2019 11:25:10 2218063 Link
Replying To Hawkeye9212: "Des needs to go. RTÉ have better presenters. I wouldn't bring back the McGraths anymore. Cummins, Anthony Daly, and Eddie Brennan are much better analysts. Donal Óg somehow found a way to connect hurling traditionalists with the Brits. I'm it will come as a shock to all Gaels living in NI that they are the last remnant of British influence on these islands." There was me thinking the republic had many plantation towns, you know like Dublin. Donegal is actually a good example, much Ulster-Scots influence there PattyONeill (Derry) - Posts: 223 - 29/07/2019 11:27:08 2218064 Link
the sunday game has become a joke!!!! some of the pundits only want to talk about the shortcomings of ''the game''. so we hear about styles of play, blanket defenses, men behind the ball, sweepers, defensive game plans, two-tier systems, funding etc etc etc. all the boring old platitudes that started back 20 years ago nearly. theres a handful of them in both hurling and football combined that want to analyze the game. to think the evening after two spectacular semi-finals (I'll say that again- all Ireland semi-finals!!!!!) they spent a large proportion of the time talking about how they saw the opposition in the media to the sweeper!!!! and how it made them feel!! and somehow the english were brought into it. what was all that about. meanwhile, penalty shouts weren't discussed nor were the 65 shout (i don't think) amongst several other talking points of the two days action. I'll also mention that I had great hopes for Joanne, I really thought she was a brilliant appointment after Lyster (he now looks like a massive loss) but she comes across as almost angry sometimes or domineering. much different from what I remembered her in previous years. theweanling (Cavan) - Posts: 414 - 29/07/2019 11:41:39 2218082 Link
Replying To catch22: "What format would yo suggest ? What changes would make it better?" They should just cancel the football Sunday game. The most boring game doesn't need to be talked about especioally at a prime time slot. The Hurling Sunday game should be extended to feature more of the McDonagh & Ring cups and more analysis. clare_sparrow (Galway) - Posts: 426 - 29/07/2019 11:53:12 2218092 Link
Replying To clare_sparrow: "They should just cancel the football Sunday game. The most boring game doesn't need to be talked about especioally at a prime time slot. The Hurling Sunday game should be extended to feature more of the McDonagh & Ring cups and more analysis." That's a great idea, maybe get a handball slot up and running instead. catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 29/07/2019 11:58:39 2218097 Link
Replying To clare_sparrow: "They should just cancel the football Sunday game. The most boring game doesn't need to be talked about especioally at a prime time slot. The Hurling Sunday game should be extended to feature more of the McDonagh & Ring cups and more analysis." Stick to the point please, this is about quality of coverage by RTE not one code versus another. In any case, last night's show was 100% hurling and was still the worst load of oul scutter yet produced by SG. So while I agree with you that football should be separate from the minority sports it will not fix the real problem. There is a major issue with the editorial lines taken the SG. Analyzing every incident through the prism of lazy pre-conceptions, allowing individuals to rule the discussion, missing the key points, blind positivity to one code and extreme negativity (stemming from a game that happened 16 years ago) on the other. Remember, these are the same people who dreamed up the Marty squad so what would you expect? That plus with the ego-trip panelists selected is doing serious harm. Last night's display by the man whose previous actions helped cripple the proudest hurling county of them all, was a cringe-worthy attempt to display intelligence. The big talking point from yesterday's game (ref aside) was how Wexford froze with a 5 point lead and a man up. D.Fitz throws the same old lines out and the panelists bite. Any chance that questions would be asked of the mis-management of a game-winning position? Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 1058 - 29/07/2019 12:26:01 2218122 Link
I guess Joe Brolly is not that bad afterall suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1669 - 29/07/2019 12:35:06 2218133 Link
The analysis is so lazy by so many pundits though. If Wexford/Waterford/Clare lose, its because of a system. If Kilkenny lose, its not because of a "system" (even though Padraig Walsh is as much as sweeper as Kevin Foley). Its tiresome at this stage, every team plays an extra couple of men back who bomb up the field when needed. Liam Ryan's point yesterday was a sight to behold. Would everyone rather Liam Ryan stood at the edge of the box and never went beyond the 21? Hurling is evolving and the traditional "get it and drive it" analysts are not liking it, they'd much rather teams had Tony Doran or Christy Heffernan or Cormac Bonner on the edge of the square and put snow on it or whip on the ground rather than players making a pass, go, get it back, 3-4 times and work a score rather than just hitting it long. While that might have been great craic back in the day, I think modern players want more than that from the game. Evolution is a strange thing, some people just hate people thinking differently. StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1733 - 29/07/2019 12:50:21 2218145 Link
Replying To Eddie the Exile: "Stick to the point please, this is about quality of coverage by RTE not one code versus another. In any case, last night's show was 100% hurling and was still the worst load of oul scutter yet produced by SG. So while I agree with you that football should be separate from the minority sports it will not fix the real problem. There is a major issue with the editorial lines taken the SG. Analyzing every incident through the prism of lazy pre-conceptions, allowing individuals to rule the discussion, missing the key points, blind positivity to one code and extreme negativity (stemming from a game that happened 16 years ago) on the other. Remember, these are the same people who dreamed up the Marty squad so what would you expect? That plus with the ego-trip panelists selected is doing serious harm. Last night's display by the man whose previous actions helped cripple the proudest hurling county of them all, was a cringe-worthy attempt to display intelligence. The big talking point from yesterday's game (ref aside) was how Wexford froze with a 5 point lead and a man up. D.Fitz throws the same old lines out and the panelists bite. Any chance that questions would be asked of the mis-management of a game-winning position?" I never said football should be separate, I said its coverage should be cancelled. For reasons to do with how mind bogglingly boring it is. clare_sparrow (Galway) - Posts: 426 - 29/07/2019 12:55:12 2218149 Link
Replying To suckvalleypaddy: "I guess Joe Brolly is not that bad afterall" Ciaran Whelan would disagree. Hawkeye9212 (Donegal) - Posts: 266 - 29/07/2019 12:57:19 2218153 Link
Replying To clare_sparrow: "I never said football should be separate, I said its coverage should be cancelled. For reasons to do with how mind bogglingly boring it is." But last night had no football and it was still muck. Any comment on that? Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 1058 - 29/07/2019 13:01:51 2218154 Link
Replying To clare_sparrow: "I never said football should be separate, I said its coverage should be cancelled. For reasons to do with how mind bogglingly boring it is." Cut out the nonsense and stay on topic. Hawkeye9212 (Donegal) - Posts: 266 - 29/07/2019 13:14:33 2218159 Link
I watched last night's show in the vain hope of hearing the many talking points being discussed. Instead McGrath spent 5 mins ranting about "his game style", as tgat could be classed as innovative, creative! You had Donal Og with his massive chip on shoulders dumping it on Poor Cummins who was painted as some Conservative lackey of the Brits, Catholic Church etc etc totally unacceptable. The style of play of Wexford, Limerick, Waterford et all is a dead letter it has failed utterly. Limerick have evolved into an entirely different beast and shouldn't be lumped with others. But what had this nonsense got to do with Tipp winning a great match, despite tactics and dodgy officials. I am sure Cummins felt he should nearly apologise to others for Tipp proving both fellow panalusts are coaching failures. arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4897 - 29/07/2019 13:51:25 2218189 Link
Replying To arock: "I watched last night's show in the vain hope of hearing the many talking points being discussed. Instead McGrath spent 5 mins ranting about "his game style", as tgat could be classed as innovative, creative! You had Donal Og with his massive chip on shoulders dumping it on Poor Cummins who was painted as some Conservative lackey of the Brits, Catholic Church etc etc totally unacceptable. The style of play of Wexford, Limerick, Waterford et all is a dead letter it has failed utterly. Limerick have evolved into an entirely different beast and shouldn't be lumped with others. But what had this nonsense got to do with Tipp winning a great match, despite tactics and dodgy officials. I am sure Cummins felt he should nearly apologise to others for Tipp proving both fellow panalusts are coaching failures." Which is unfair on Cummins. He isn't opposed to innovation. I've heard praise keepers who are great at picking out players. Hawkeye9212 (Donegal) - Posts: 266 - 29/07/2019 14:14:11 2218214 Link