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Whats Going On In Westmeath Hurling?

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Cant believe Joe Quaid has been let go from Limerick, maybe there is 2 sides to the story (and maybe not!)...he has brought them on in leaps and bounds...very very strange..like most other weaker counties, was the expense of high profile name an issue for the Westmeath county board I wonder...

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 26/07/2019 12:11:32    2216719

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Replying To Fairplayalways:  "Cant believe Joe Quaid has been let go from Limerick, maybe there is 2 sides to the story (and maybe not!)...he has brought them on in leaps and bounds...very very strange..like most other weaker counties, was the expense of high profile name an issue for the Westmeath county board I wonder..."
Methinks the new man in has maybe already been chosen.

Ej (Wexford) - Posts: 355 - 26/07/2019 13:09:26    2216746

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Very poor form to treat a man like that.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1911 - 26/07/2019 13:18:28    2216752

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Replying To Fairplayalways:  "Cant believe Joe Quaid has been let go from Limerick, maybe there is 2 sides to the story (and maybe not!)...he has brought them on in leaps and bounds...very very strange..like most other weaker counties, was the expense of high profile name an issue for the Westmeath county board I wonder..."
i wouldnt say he brought them on in leaps and bounds either..there was a decent panel there and had good underage results. he did get them to Division 1 i suppose which counts but in fairness that westmeath team should have been in division 1 for the last 3 or 4 years anyway...The negative style of play in the cork game and the comments in the week leading up to that game wasnt great.

preddan (Kildare) - Posts: 738 - 26/07/2019 13:40:29    2216766

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Replying To preddan:  "i wouldnt say he brought them on in leaps and bounds either..there was a decent panel there and had good underage results. he did get them to Division 1 i suppose which counts but in fairness that westmeath team should have been in division 1 for the last 3 or 4 years anyway...The negative style of play in the cork game and the comments in the week leading up to that game wasnt great."
Didn't hear a whole lot of what he said except the bit where he said "we (or was it I expect) expect to be out of the championship on Sunday evening"...2 things about that, the Westmeath people will say he was running them down before they even pucked a ball in the game, if so I doubt if he did so intentionally, the second thing is you could argue he was doing what most other managers do is talk up the opposition, which he didn't need to do being Cork, but if that's why they dismissed him I would say it was an excuse to get rid of him rather than the reason, if you follow me...

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 26/07/2019 13:56:45    2216773

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Word is he was confrontational, dismissive of his selectors and created a very poor atmosphere.
The performances of Killian Doyle seemed to mask many problems

dakid (Australia) - Posts: 285 - 26/07/2019 14:14:25    2216775

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Everyone within Westmeath hurling knows that the team have went backwards since he took over. Yes they may have won the league but they've been at that stage for the last number of years. Performances on the pitch have dropped with only one forward playing well all year. Also numerous bad decisions throughout the year. Goal keeping decision from management team cost them that McDonagh final

westmeathgaa11 (Westmeath) - Posts: 220 - 26/07/2019 14:25:01    2216785

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Replying To westmeathgaa11:  "Everyone within Westmeath hurling knows that the team have went backwards since he took over. Yes they may have won the league but they've been at that stage for the last number of years. Performances on the pitch have dropped with only one forward playing well all year. Also numerous bad decisions throughout the year. Goal keeping decision from management team cost them that McDonagh final"
Doubt Westmeath would have beat Leix with a different keeper.

Unless the plan was to play two.

carlovia (None) - Posts: 1517 - 26/07/2019 15:26:46    2216810

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Nobody in the county is surprised to see him gone

valley84 (Westmeath) - Posts: 1890 - 26/07/2019 15:36:47    2216817

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Replying To valley84:  "Nobody in the county is surprised to see him gone"
Agreed, nothing to see here. Move on

soreknee (Westmeath) - Posts: 166 - 26/07/2019 16:53:25    2216842

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Replying To Fairplayalways:  "Didn't hear a whole lot of what he said except the bit where he said "we (or was it I expect) expect to be out of the championship on Sunday evening"...2 things about that, the Westmeath people will say he was running them down before they even pucked a ball in the game, if so I doubt if he did so intentionally, the second thing is you could argue he was doing what most other managers do is talk up the opposition, which he didn't need to do being Cork, but if that's why they dismissed him I would say it was an excuse to get rid of him rather than the reason, if you follow me..."
Mícheál Ryan the man before him seemed to have massive respect for that team and had belief in them.. Remember 2 years ago in semple stadium they went toe to toe with tipp for 55 minutes or more playing man on man. I definitely think Joe quaid did not get the best out of this team... They won div 2 but not in a pretty comfortable fashion either.

preddan (Kildare) - Posts: 738 - 27/07/2019 01:11:22    2216982

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Replying To carlovia:  "Doubt Westmeath would have beat Leix with a different keeper.

Unless the plan was to play two."
Conceded terrible goals and puckouts misfired, this lad wasn't even on the 26 for most of the games all year, the two goalies who were there for league and most of the championship weren't even in the 26 for the joe mcdonagh final, Everyone in Westmeath hurling know the sacking of quaid was justifiable

westmeathgaa11 (Westmeath) - Posts: 220 - 27/07/2019 07:42:44    2217000

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Some of these outside managers are out of one thing and one thing only and that's themseves. Fellas from ''hurling counties'' see the likes of Kerry, Westmeath, Carlow, Laois and to an extent Kildare and Meath as an easy way into management with an easy pay day.

Westmeath this season on paper had a good season, but as has been said was that down to Quaid alone?

Eamonn Kelly is another recent example of it. Left Offaly saying it was over work etc and two weeks later he was the Laois manager.

I wonder are these managers actually any good for a county? When a lot of them only look in the short term.

You then have the other side of the coin with the likes of Colm Bonnar who have actually improved teams they've managed

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1380 - 27/07/2019 16:31:09    2217132

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Being honest i didnt like him when he was with Kildare. Little or no sympathy. Hes not going to these counties for his love if the game.

daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 4012 - 27/07/2019 18:27:27    2217168

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Counties like Westmeath Offaly etc. should look inside for homegrown managers who actually care about the cause

westmeathgaa11 (Westmeath) - Posts: 220 - 27/07/2019 18:52:02    2217169

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His comments both before and after the cork game left a lot to be desired so I wasn't overly surprised. He doesn't come across as someone that is too articulate or someone that fits the mould of an intercounty manager.
You have a lot of people looking for a six team Leinster cship incl him (which I'm not one of!) but yet he comes out with mad comments before and after the cork game. After hearing his interviews I wasn't one bit surprised he was let go

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 27/07/2019 20:01:24    2217194

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His comments both before and after the cork game left a lot to be desired so I wasn't overly surprised. He doesn't come across as someone that is too articulate or someone that fits the mould of an intercounty manager.
You have a lot of people looking for a six team Leinster cship incl him (which I'm not one of!) but yet he comes out with mad comments before and after the cork game. After hearing his interviews I wasn't one bit surprised he was let go

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 27/07/2019 20:01:27    2217195

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Replying To oneoff:  "Some of these outside managers are out of one thing and one thing only and that's themseves. Fellas from ''hurling counties'' see the likes of Kerry, Westmeath, Carlow, Laois and to an extent Kildare and Meath as an easy way into management with an easy pay day.

Westmeath this season on paper had a good season, but as has been said was that down to Quaid alone?

Eamonn Kelly is another recent example of it. Left Offaly saying it was over work etc and two weeks later he was the Laois manager.

I wonder are these managers actually any good for a county? When a lot of them only look in the short term.

You then have the other side of the coin with the likes of Colm Bonnar who have actually improved teams they've managed"
Spot on with all your points there. There's managers from some of the traditional counties getting these jobs and the only reason is, is because of where they're born.
Also spot on with Colm Bonnar. Was disappointed he didn't seem to get a look in for the tipp job last year.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 27/07/2019 20:04:14    2217198

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Being honest i didnt like him when he was with Kildare. Little or no sympathy. Hes not going to these counties for his love if the game.

daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 3650 - 27/07/2019 18:27:27


Counties like Westmeath Offaly etc. should look inside for homegrown managers who actually care about the cause

westmeathgaa11 (Westmeath) - Posts: 10 - 27/07/2019 18:52:02


This is the issue. It's a bigger one for the Christy Ring etc teams when they can bring in outside players to help bring them the short term success they want.

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1380 - 27/07/2019 20:08:43    2217206

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Spot on with all your points there. There's managers from some of the traditional counties getting these jobs and the only reason is, is because of where they're born.
Also spot on with Colm Bonnar. Was disappointed he didn't seem to get a look in for the tipp job last year."
You often see when jobs for Kerry, Carlow etc come up lads who have never managed any team names being out forward. Then when they get the job the first sign of trouble they're gone. It would be interesting to see how long some of these fellas stay with counties. Kerry have gone trough 6/7 manages in the last 10 years, with some of them going after a year. Offaly and Laois would be up there with the same numbers i would think

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1380 - 27/07/2019 20:28:59    2217224

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