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Leinster SHC Final Wexford V Kilkenny

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Replying To Buachaillbui:  "04 was last Wex win. Dont think any of em are still playing. '16 was Kilkenny's last so prob more than half of squad going for first"
Hardly a big issue though. How many Munster medals had Limerick in 73,94 or 13 or Clare in 95 or Waterford in 2002.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4315 - 27/06/2019 10:56:56    2201621

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Hardly a big issue though. How many Munster medals had Limerick in 73,94 or 13 or Clare in 95 or Waterford in 2002."
Different era, different baggage. Now it doesnt matter anymore as there is a safety net. If this were the old system then I'd say definitely.

Buachaillbui (Clare) - Posts: 117 - 27/06/2019 12:40:20    2201668

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Replying To Buachaillbui:  "Different era, different baggage. Now it doesnt matter anymore as there is a safety net. If this were the old system then I'd say definitely."
There was a safety net before if you lost the Leinster or Munster final

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5009 - 27/06/2019 13:41:18    2201698

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Replying To cavanman47:  "There was a safety net before if you lost the Leinster or Munster final"
I'm referring to before the backdoor.

Buachaillbui (Clare) - Posts: 117 - 27/06/2019 14:21:47    2201721

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Hardly a big issue though. How many Munster medals had Limerick in 73,94 or 13 or Clare in 95 or Waterford in 2002."
Not an issue. Question was purely out of curiousity.

With Limerick and Galway winning All Irelands recently it just shows how many players have won cships for the first time. In mid 2000's it was very different. Exciting time for hurling.
If Tipp werent to win this year, then wouldn't it be great if Dublin or Wexford could do it? Not sure they're equipped to do that yet but its as good a chance this year as any.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 27/06/2019 18:59:23    2201832

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Replying To tonydoranfan:  "It's really funny the way Clare run down their own!, 5 all irelands and Davy involved in 3, you can't say Clare people are happy with them two clowns you have at the moment,
To be honest I'm not a big fan of davys tactics but a great great fan of the hurlng buzz in wexford at the moment and the amount of kids playing hurling here, will only be good for wexford in the future, so we done Davy fitzgerald"
I have no time for Davy but really hope Wexford win Sunday,will be brilliant to see.

cityman73 (Limerick) - Posts: 775 - 27/06/2019 19:33:29    2201840

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Replying To ChinCanHurl:  "Our last title was 2004, so no none of this Wexford panel have ever won a leinster title. A few of them have never even been to Croke park."
Have they ever been to Dublin? They could be in for a big culture shock.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2443 - 27/06/2019 20:05:24    2201856

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If Tipp werent to win this year, then wouldn't it be great if Dublin or Wexford could do it? Not sure they're equipped to do that yet but its as good a chance this year as any.
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 2567 - 27/06/2019 18:59:23

If Dublin or Wexford, or any other county outside the 'big three' (Cork, Kilkenny and Tipperary) were to win it this year; it would be only the second time in the history of the hurling AI championship that the winners for three consecutive years did not include one of the 'big three'. The only time this happened before was between 1994 and 1998; when Clare won it twice, Offaly the same and Wexford once.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2443 - 27/06/2019 20:23:34    2201866

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All the pundits are on about the extra space in Croke Park suiting Kilkenny, but as far as I know Wexford Park is about 142m x 87m where as Croke Park is 145m x 88m, hardly any difference?

WEX98 (Wexford) - Posts: 374 - 27/06/2019 20:41:55    2201872

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "If Tipp werent to win this year, then wouldn't it be great if Dublin or Wexford could do it? Not sure they're equipped to do that yet but its as good a chance this year as any.
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 2567 - 27/06/2019 18:59:23

If Dublin or Wexford, or any other county outside the 'big three' (Cork, Kilkenny and Tipperary) were to win it this year; it would be only the second time in the history of the hurling AI championship that the winners for three consecutive years did not include one of the 'big three'. The only time this happened before was between 1994 and 1998; when Clare won it twice, Offaly the same and Wexford once."
Nice stat

Buachaillbui (Clare) - Posts: 117 - 27/06/2019 21:35:07    2201891

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Hard to call this one. Which should make for a great match. Looks like it'll be packed. Wex always had great support. I was sure Wex would take Kk down in Windy city. At HT thought KK had played very well against the breeze and would pull away in 2nd half, particularly after the goal went in but they didn't (which was down to Wex playing so well also against the breeze). I'll go for Wex by 4 and pitch invasion.

I'd be interested to hear where Kk fans think they can hurt Wex amd likewise where Wex fans think Kk are vulnerable.

Buachaillbui (Clare) - Posts: 117 - 27/06/2019 21:49:47    2201897

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Has any of this Wexford team won a Leinster title and how many of the likely KK starting team are going for their first?"
I'd say most of the Kilkenny team have medals from 2016 as panel members but on the field of play I would estimate that about 6 of the team haven't featured on a Leinster winning team.

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 27/06/2019 22:23:55    2201917

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Replying To Buachaillbui:  "Hard to call this one. Which should make for a great match. Looks like it'll be packed. Wex always had great support. I was sure Wex would take Kk down in Windy city. At HT thought KK had played very well against the breeze and would pull away in 2nd half, particularly after the goal went in but they didn't (which was down to Wex playing so well also against the breeze). I'll go for Wex by 4 and pitch invasion.

I'd be interested to hear where Kk fans think they can hurt Wex amd likewise where Wex fans think Kk are vulnerable."
Wexford v Kilkenny is always physical. The ref the last day just let em at it and both sides were happy with that.
By all accounts sunday's ref is a bit whistle happy so if it's a free taking competition we all know who will come out on top.
I think there will be a couple of changes on both sides and Cody will definitely switch things up with his forwards.
I'm really hoping Seamus Casey gets a start for us. He's quick, very direct and positive in his play.

Ej (Wexford) - Posts: 355 - 27/06/2019 23:01:49    2201933

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Replying To Buachaillbui:  "Hard to call this one. Which should make for a great match. Looks like it'll be packed. Wex always had great support. I was sure Wex would take Kk down in Windy city. At HT thought KK had played very well against the breeze and would pull away in 2nd half, particularly after the goal went in but they didn't (which was down to Wex playing so well also against the breeze). I'll go for Wex by 4 and pitch invasion.

I'd be interested to hear where Kk fans think they can hurt Wex amd likewise where Wex fans think Kk are vulnerable."
We're vulnerable if Wexford play a sweeper and we play dumb and go long and hopeful. Kilkenny have been notoriously bad against teams operating a sweeper because Cody doesn't like to deviate from his traditional template of hitting the ball long and high into the HF line and telling them to "win their own ball". All very well if the likes of TJ Reid and Walter Walsh are catching clean ball but if they're not, the defence cleans up 75% of the breaking ball.

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 27/06/2019 23:04:06    2201935

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "If Tipp werent to win this year, then wouldn't it be great if Dublin or Wexford could do it? Not sure they're equipped to do that yet but its as good a chance this year as any.
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 2567 - 27/06/2019 18:59:23

If Dublin or Wexford, or any other county outside the 'big three' (Cork, Kilkenny and Tipperary) were to win it this year; it would be only the second time in the history of the hurling AI championship that the winners for three consecutive years did not include one of the 'big three'. The only time this happened before was between 1994 and 1998; when Clare won it twice, Offaly the same and Wexford once."
Very good stat indeed.

Notably for the 6 teams qualified through the Munster/Leinster cships all 6 are the top 6 in the roll of honour.
looking through the roll of honour I forgot how long it has been since Cork won an All Ireland. They'll fancy their chances this year. Definitely gone off the point of the thread now!

Looking forward to the Leinster final more this year than I have in a long time, especially the potential Reid/OHanlon battle. Although I'd be slightly surprised if Reid isnt moved.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 27/06/2019 23:05:06    2201937

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Win for Wexford would be massive. Love to see them on Sunday.

08-LK-2018 (Limerick) - Posts: 7 - 27/06/2019 23:47:33    2201961

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Looking for premium tickets for kk v wex.Anybody know where to get them.

Wexpurebred (Wexford) - Posts: 205 - 28/06/2019 08:50:35    2201991

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I'd be interested to hear where Kk fans think they can hurt Wex amd likewise where Wex fans think Kk are vulnerable.

Buachaillbui (Clare) - Posts: 23 - 27/06/2019 21:49:47 2201897

Its hard to know, I think Wexford half forward line can't win enough ball but I also think if we follow Galway's template and run at their full back line, I think there is goals to be had. I think Huw Lawlor hasn't been fully tested yet, I know it will be harder to get goals there with Padraig Walsh presumably knocking around.

There is serious hype about this match. I think either side can win it, I don't remember our last Leinster Final and I hope we can win it.

Good luck to both teams.

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1729 - 28/06/2019 09:08:08    2201994

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I meant to say I don't remember our last final victory

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1729 - 28/06/2019 09:09:31    2201995

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Replying To Buachaillbui:  "Hard to call this one. Which should make for a great match. Looks like it'll be packed. Wex always had great support. I was sure Wex would take Kk down in Windy city. At HT thought KK had played very well against the breeze and would pull away in 2nd half, particularly after the goal went in but they didn't (which was down to Wex playing so well also against the breeze). I'll go for Wex by 4 and pitch invasion.

I'd be interested to hear where Kk fans think they can hurt Wex amd likewise where Wex fans think Kk are vulnerable."
Kilkenny wont be vulnerable its not in their nature. Full back line and full forward line possibly their weakest lines but neither would be exactly vulnerable. We will play 2 inside so that will help them there. If the ref goes the whistle happy route red cards might have a huge bearing on the result. It will be an intense physical battle so maybe whichever team finishes with the most men on the pitch will have a huge advantage.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11693 - 28/06/2019 13:36:34    2202076

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