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Meath V Dublin Leinster Final.

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Replying To BliainanÁir:  "I have. Apologies. But there's some relationship, maybe it isn't blood, he's often down (Ger) though in Joseph's.

The overall point I was making is Dublin gained more in GAA terms from country people than Kildare, Meath and Laois are gaining from migrant Dubs 1995 on. As a poster pointed out, think yourself, they are less likely to be interested in GAA.

To get back to the thread. I think Meath will give the Dubs their best Leinster test in 4 or 5 years but Dublin by 12 points. It won't feel like 12 points though as Meath will be close for 60min. A player to be sent off on both sides."
No problem man. We all get things wrong sometimes.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 13/06/2019 11:21:06    2194316

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Replying To DUBJOHN:  "I think I'll just bulldoze through all this bu!! s#! t and simplify this game, im fed up with Meath supporters going on about not fearing Dublin about how youse always put it up to Dublin etc. etc. etc., the bottom line is, the 80s and 90s and early noughties are no longer, apart from a little hiccup in 2010 Dublin have had the measure of Meath,this Dublin don't fear Meath anymore and haven't done for a long tíme and you can go on with all that macho bu!! but I fear this Dublin team just see Meath as a very very minor inconvenience along the way to the 5 in a row they won't be giving you much thought, you're way down the list of counties that Dublin would be wary of, i don't mean this post to be derogatory in anyway towards this Meath team or their supporters i just have to say it as i see it!"
Should we bother turning up? :)

Meath10 (Meath) - Posts: 209 - 13/06/2019 11:22:27    2194317

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Replying To DUBJOHN:  "I think I'll just bulldoze through all this bu!! s#! t and simplify this game, im fed up with Meath supporters going on about not fearing Dublin about how youse always put it up to Dublin etc. etc. etc., the bottom line is, the 80s and 90s and early noughties are no longer, apart from a little hiccup in 2010 Dublin have had the measure of Meath,this Dublin don't fear Meath anymore and haven't done for a long tíme and you can go on with all that macho bu!! but I fear this Dublin team just see Meath as a very very minor inconvenience along the way to the 5 in a row they won't be giving you much thought, you're way down the list of counties that Dublin would be wary of, i don't mean this post to be derogatory in anyway towards this Meath team or their supporters i just have to say it as i see it!"
That's a fair load of macho bull aswell in fairness DUBJOHN, we all know how great Dublin are and how far off the pace we've been in the last decade.

But we're still going to enjoy the build up to the match, even if we're told that we should know our place and we shouldn't hold any hope.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 13/06/2019 12:08:47    2194350

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Replying To Meath10:  "Should we bother turning up? :)"
Well if you want to see the greatest football team of all time you should definetly turn up.
If you want to see a Meath win no, stay away.

Condorman (Dublin) - Posts: 983 - 13/06/2019 12:13:23    2194353

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Replying To WanPintWin:  "People need to stop using the population number for direct comparison. It doesn't make any sense.
Registered GAA players are the actual pool available to counties to pick from. Dublin have the most but it's nowhere near the multiple of other counties, that their population is. This is due to Dublin having by far the lowest percentage of registered players.
As of the last numbers I saw from 2015, Dublin had 39K registered players (both codes). Cork had 34K, Galway 21.5K, Meath 15K, Kerry 15K, Mayo 10.5K. Laois had 9.5K.
If we're going to debate player numbers this is the number that actually matters."
True but when you have the amount of coaches the membership will rise to reflect the population in time.

Look it's the way things are. It shouldn't be lost that this Dublin team are phenomenal. Will take over the mantle of the greatest football team of all times more than likely this year. It would be begrudgery of the highest order not to acknowledge this.

As the Sundays pass by the list of challengers seems to decrease e.g. Tyrone's abysmal display last weekend, Kerry looking so porous at the back in the league final and not impressing v Clare, Mayo taking the circuitous route with an old team, Monaghan looking tired. Only Donegal seem on the up. We haven't really seen Galway yet. Roscommon lack power. Cork can hardly come back to contend? Meath progressing but I can't see them beating Dublin.

BliainanÁir (Laois) - Posts: 598 - 13/06/2019 12:20:21    2194360

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Replying To WanPintWin:  "People need to stop using the population number for direct comparison. It doesn't make any sense.
Registered GAA players are the actual pool available to counties to pick from. Dublin have the most but it's nowhere near the multiple of other counties, that their population is. This is due to Dublin having by far the lowest percentage of registered players.
As of the last numbers I saw from 2015, Dublin had 39K registered players (both codes). Cork had 34K, Galway 21.5K, Meath 15K, Kerry 15K, Mayo 10.5K. Laois had 9.5K.
If we're going to debate player numbers this is the number that actually matters."
Our (Laois) 9.5K is split fairly evenly between football and hurling.

We do ok if we win the Joe McDonagh we'll be 9th ranked in hurling. And Div 2 football. Longford and Monaghan often, and rightly so, get praised for how they perform in football. But we put out decent teams in both codes. Granted we were very poor v Meath last Sunday.

BliainanÁir (Laois) - Posts: 598 - 13/06/2019 12:31:41    2194369

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "You've totally the wrong family man. It's not Ger Brennan's dad I promise you. Ger Brennan's family are from Dorset street on Dublin north inner city your thinking of the Brennan brothers like Dessie Brennan and Co one of his brothers is Leo he's involved with my club and has sons involved that I know there no relation to Ger Brennan."
Yeah Dessie Brennan managed St marys of Saggart in the early noughties, his son David played for St Marys too and David also played with Laois for a couple of years in the noughties!

DUBJOHN (Dublin) - Posts: 973 - 13/06/2019 13:19:00    2194400

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Replying To Condorman:  "Well if you want to see the greatest football team of all time you should definetly turn up.
If you want to see a Meath win no, stay away."
I witnessed this greatest team of all time against Louth and Kildare as meath were playing beforehand but left well before half time both times. In portlaoise many Dubs left at half time too and got an early bus/train back.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 13/06/2019 13:29:07    2194407

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Replying To BliainanÁir:  "Our (Laois) 9.5K is split fairly evenly between football and hurling.

We do ok if we win the Joe McDonagh we'll be 9th ranked in hurling. And Div 2 football. Longford and Monaghan often, and rightly so, get praised for how they perform in football. But we put out decent teams in both codes. Granted we were very poor v Meath last Sunday."
Laois do a very good job of trying to keep both codes a competitive as possible. They're a true dual county. Galway's 21K would be fairly evenly split between football and hurling also (more football). It's especially difficult for smaller counties like Laois and Carlow who are making a real effort in both codes.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 3053 - 13/06/2019 13:39:15    2194418

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Replying To Condorman:  "Well if you want to see the greatest football team of all time you should definetly turn up.
If you want to see a Meath win no, stay away."
But are they the best ever yeah they're on the cusp of the 5 in a row and won't be stopped as there's no competition by your logic Mayo are the 2nd best of all time and that's just not true as much as I admire both
The best team I ever saw was the Kerry team in the 70's followed very closely by the Dubs of that era as both those squads drove each other on to outdo each other that Kerry forward line were just incredible
The current Dublin team are truly a great side but to say they're the best ever in my opinion is wrong

runnerin (Meath) - Posts: 202 - 13/06/2019 15:49:35    2194487

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Replying To runnerin:  "But are they the best ever yeah they're on the cusp of the 5 in a row and won't be stopped as there's no competition by your logic Mayo are the 2nd best of all time and that's just not true as much as I admire both
The best team I ever saw was the Kerry team in the 70's followed very closely by the Dubs of that era as both those squads drove each other on to outdo each other that Kerry forward line were just incredible
The current Dublin team are truly a great side but to say they're the best ever in my opinion is wrong"
It is all a matter of personal opinion, almost impossible to judge teams from different eras. IMO if this fantastic tram completes the 5 in a row they will be the greatest team of all time. Anyway back to Meath. Great to see them making progress but will be doing well to get within 10 points of the champs this time.

fingalman (Dublin) - Posts: 233 - 13/06/2019 17:54:22    2194529

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There will be far sterner tests ahead for this Dublin team this year and I can see them getting caught at some stage. Meath will huff and puff but no houses will be blown down this time.

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 13/06/2019 18:46:33    2194555

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Replying To Htaem:  "That's a fair load of macho bull aswell in fairness DUBJOHN, we all know how great Dublin are and how far off the pace we've been in the last decade.

But we're still going to enjoy the build up to the match, even if we're told that we should know our place and we shouldn't hold any hope."
And what's more is his post is the one I'll reply to on the Monday after we win the Leinster.
Hon the royal

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 13/06/2019 19:00:44    2194562

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Replying To runnerin:  "But are they the best ever yeah they're on the cusp of the 5 in a row and won't be stopped as there's no competition by your logic Mayo are the 2nd best of all time and that's just not true as much as I admire both
The best team I ever saw was the Kerry team in the 70's followed very closely by the Dubs of that era as both those squads drove each other on to outdo each other that Kerry forward line were just incredible
The current Dublin team are truly a great side but to say they're the best ever in my opinion is wrong"
Agree that the Kerry team of the late 1970s were the greatest ever football team.Roscommon lost to them by 3 points in the 1980 All-Ireland Final.We had won 4 Connacht titles in a row,won the 1979 National League and the 1978 All-Ireland U21 Championship.Kerry lost the 82 Final to a late Offaly goal and lost in Munster in 83 to a late Cork goal and there was no back door.Kerry came back to win further All-Irelands in 1984,1985 and 1986.That Kerry team could easily have won 9 All Irelands in a row.I do think the Dubs will win the elusive 5 in a row this year.Can't see the team to beat them.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2787 - 13/06/2019 20:10:07    2194574

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Replying To Meath10:  "Should we bother turning up? :)"
No!

DUBJOHN (Dublin) - Posts: 973 - 13/06/2019 21:57:47    2194615

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Replying To royaldunne:  "And what's more is his post is the one I'll reply to on the Monday after we win the Leinster.
Hon the royal"
RD that won't be happening, not a hope, but fair play to you and all the other Meath posters (except JackGoff) you have to have faith and believe that your team are going to win just as i and many others did supporting the Dubs when things weren't as good as they are now, as i said in a previous i don't mean to be derogatory towards the Meath team or their fans im just speaking my mind and i certainly hope youse give us some sort of game!

DUBJOHN (Dublin) - Posts: 973 - 13/06/2019 22:05:14    2194622

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Meath v Dublin. No team have ever won five matches in a row against each other in this fixture. The Dubs have won the last four championship matches against Meath. Will this be the first part of their drive for five?

OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 13/06/2019 22:24:37    2194631

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Replying To OLLIE:  "Meath v Dublin. No team have ever won five matches in a row against each other in this fixture. The Dubs have won the last four championship matches against Meath. Will this be the first part of their drive for five?"
Yes

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13671 - 13/06/2019 22:55:09    2194643

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This match may finally be the game that begins to lift the scales from eyes with regards the future of football. Dublin are pulling ahead of everyone, way ahead. An improving Meath would give a decent challenge to nearly all other Division one teams but Dublin are growing stronger not weaker becoming even more efficient and professional. In truth, Dublin are now way out on their own. Nostalgia won't cover up that truth here and Dublin will win this in a canter by 15 points plus. This match is a mere ticking exercise before Dublin cruise on to a 5 in a row. Let's talk about six baby will be the cry soon enough! Mark my words.

Kingdomson (Kerry) - Posts: 244 - 14/06/2019 00:01:06    2194668

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Replying To DUBJOHN:  "RD that won't be happening, not a hope, but fair play to you and all the other Meath posters (except JackGoff) you have to have faith and believe that your team are going to win just as i and many others did supporting the Dubs when things weren't as good as they are now, as i said in a previous i don't mean to be derogatory towards the Meath team or their fans im just speaking my mind and i certainly hope youse give us some sort of game!"
If I was a player and the meath setup had top class sports physiologists I'm sure they could brain wash me into believing we would win. But in this situation the players are better off realising it could get ugly so if it does it won't affect them as much for the next match which will decide if this year was a complete success or not.

We simply must win the 4th round qualifier or it will be 4 times in a row we've been knocked out when reaching that stage. And each time we got there by losing to Dublin in the final. The squad at least mentally need to be fully prepared this time to get over the leinster final as soon as it's over.

But I'm just a fan so I can believe what I want. Talking to meath fans nobody believes we will win so I'd give a safe estimate that 90%+ in the county expect us to be well beaten.

@Ollie
Very interesting stat. So Dublin will do more then 1 five in a row this year. It will be the biggest ever period of dominance for Dublin over Meath since the creation of the GAA.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 14/06/2019 01:38:13    2194677

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