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I'd nearly be inclined to have Dublin slightly ahead of Wexford, as much as I admire both counties I find it hard to have faith in Wexford at times.
Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1913 - 05/05/2019 01:03:24 2181893 Link 0 |
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Typical Munster arrogance, laugh all you like at Kilkenny but if you have to meet them in mid-August your cockiness will dissipate fairly quickly. Listen ye were by far the better team last year but s..t and bricks come to mind in the last few minutes of that final and had it to be KK that was there you could still be waiting so don't ever, ever count the cats out before a ball is struck.
MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1066 - 05/05/2019 11:24:42 2181924 Link 0 |
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This is a decent considerate post. I like it's balance and consideration for the underdog. Also giving the likes of Carlow or Kerry one year in the top stream does not give a fair reflection of where they are actually at, for example a County could be unlucky in a particular game or suffer a few injuries or indeed a loss of form of one or two top players. Still think the choice should be there for the County involved to opt out themselves.
MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1066 - 05/05/2019 11:43:34 2181930 Link 0 |
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It took Limerick 45 years to in an All Ireland from 1973, and 33 years from 1940 to 1973. Hardly gives Bloodyban any cause to gloat. It could be another generation or two before Liam McCarthy visits Shannonside. Kilkenny would give them pucks of it in the championship, then we'll see how good they are. Their fans can head back to the oval ball then. thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1746 - 05/05/2019 12:56:59 2181945 Link 0 |
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I'd never discount Kilkenny. If you read my post I said Kilkenny have a chance if they got on a run. I dont know what predicting this years Championship has anything to do with Last years All Ireland. Absolutely nothing I would venture. Theres no arrogance on my part. It smacks of the usual Stockholm syndrome which has developed in every County in Leinster talking up Kilkenny. The Leinster Championship is bang average every year and sometimes alot worse. Thank God for Galway. The funny thing is Kilkenny folk are never as thin skinned as the rest of the Leinster counties. bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 05/05/2019 16:43:04 2181966 Link 1 |
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Kilkenny are still 2nd in Leinster same as last year also still a match for any Munster team on their day. As for the championship set up so what if Munster is stronger the current system works great. Got a real sense of danger in both groups and even matches in most knockout games. The only change needed is to put a relegation playoff in Leinster same as Munsters. Carlow are clearly top 5 in Leinster and would be a shame to see them have to skip the championship every second year in exchange for teams like offaly who they are clearly better than Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 05/05/2019 16:48:06 2181968 Link 0 |
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Spoken like a true Offaly man...now that you have no hurling team of your own you pull on the black and amber geansai..Slightly sad to say the least. Of course I always follow the oval ball aswell,most Limerick people do. Rugby and hurling ,you cant go wrong. Power and skill. The only people with an inflated sense of themselves are the Leinster people on here...Have you guys looked at the All Ireland Under 21 statistics for the last 20 years or so .?? Ye haven't kept the ball pucked out to the Munster ir Galway teams. It's a terrible situation that you have let develop. The days are gone when Offaly could turn up with a fag in the corner of their mouth and a belly poking out of the Jersey and use their great skill to beat anyone. Its moved on and the least Leinster can do is get fit and get decent sized squads. I'm not criticising Dublin or Kilkenny here...just everyone else. bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 05/05/2019 16:52:28 2181969 Link 1 |
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Absolute arrogance, max 2 from Leinster and still a good Munster team missing out, clearly inferring that 4 should advance from Munster. Why not make it a full open draw? Oh no that would infringe on the sacred cow that is the Munster Championship, now I am not calling for the end of the Munster Championship but you cannot have it both ways. The provincial championships have been an elimination process since they were first introduced and should continue to be so on an equal a footing as possible. Otherwise arrogance and greed will become ingrained in the system. Take it or leave it. And while you are there there have been some brutal games in Munster as well.
MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1066 - 05/05/2019 17:05:44 2181971 Link 1 |
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What a miserable post... it's just sad when insults are your best attempt at argument. skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1065 - 05/05/2019 17:59:40 2181984 Link 0 |
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Leinster fans always blame munster for the lack of an open draw but the truth is leinster hurling needs the prov championships more than we do. All munster teams start the year aiming for liam but how many actual leinster countoes could say that nowadays. Without a shot at prov glory IC hurling would be dead in Wexford and Dublin due to the lack of hope from proping up open draw groups every year
Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 05/05/2019 18:39:02 2181998 Link 1 |
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Most years neither Dublin nor Wexford have a shot at provincial glory so your point doesn't really stand up. Hurling should have had an open draw years ago but the sacred cow of the Munster Hurling won't be sacrificed. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 05/05/2019 19:42:28 2182007 Link 7 |
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You people won't let Kerry into their own Championship unless they "force" another Munster County out, Leinster let Galway in but others were put out. Really though this debate is headed " Are Kilkenny now 4th in Leinster" and has now descended into the "we are Munster" so only us have any say into how hurling should be administered.......short memories indeed. Kilkenny have won enough, literally for my lifetime, and if I had a choice it would be no harm if they were ranked 13th in Leinster for a year or two (good for the game? no for the others) but the reality is that they have numerous injuries but they also have NUMEROUS replacements, more than any other county with the exception of Cork/Tipperary/Galway, so those injuries will not have the same impact as on others. I do not want to wish 4th on Kilkenny but it would be great for Wexford and/or Dublin or indeed Carlow to finish ahead of them but I doubt it will happen! This assumes that Galway will be one or two. So to answer the initial question, they will finish third or better in Leinster, my opinion only. MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1066 - 05/05/2019 20:24:31 2182015 Link 0 |
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In Fairness Galway were in Munster from 59 to 69 inclusive and were allowed into Munster at all levels. They left of their own volition.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4338 - 05/05/2019 21:50:02 2182034 Link 0 |
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If limerick posters ever wonder why they take some flack have a read at some of the nonsense that was put on here today. bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 06/05/2019 01:56:54 2182067 Link 1 |
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I suppose we are supposed to have no opinion. I only stated facts about Galway and Munster-unlike in Leinster our province welcomed them in at all grades. As a matter of fact deduct 1910 fom 1955 and you just might come to the conclusion that Wexford also went forty five years without an All Ireland Hurling title. Maybe it is is you who feels that anything you say should not be challenged.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4338 - 06/05/2019 11:11:05 2182083 Link 1 |
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I wasn't referring to your post, you're post wasn't visible until this morning. In fairness you didn't put up any of the nonsense I was referring too, the sort of stuff I was talking about was the clown who said intercounty hurling would be dead in Dublin and wexford if there was an open draw
bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 06/05/2019 11:45:28 2182089 Link 0 |
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Yes wexford have only 1 all ireland sense 1968 but do you see the same sense of entitlement as you do from limerick posters...no bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 06/05/2019 12:01:18 2182093 Link 0 |
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If Wexford were in Munster you wouldn't have 96s All Ireland either. Clare or Tipp would have beaten ye. But you won it and fair play. No one can take that away from ye. Limerick had 6 or 7 all Ireland final appearances since 73 .But Wexford are in Leinster and I hope they do very well this year. That's my genuine hope. I like Wexford but I think what irks Munster people is that Wexford people think the current Wexford team could compete successfully in the Munster Championship . They wouldn't. If Galway were allowed into the leinster under 21 championship then Wexford, Offaly and Dublin would never even get to Leinster finals.so I think they should keep the status quo. bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 06/05/2019 14:59:51 2182133 Link 0 |
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Jeez you keep digging this hole deeper and deeper. 1. What has 96 got to do with this? 2. How do you know clare and tipp would have beat wexford? Wexford beat the Munster champions in the all ireland final in 96 and would have hammered ye only for Joe quaid playing half the game with 14 men. You need to check your facts aswel galway are in leinster u21 now u20, beat wexford by a point after extra time in 1 of the best games of 2018 underage or senior in last years leinster final. bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 06/05/2019 15:34:56 2182140 Link 0 |
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I was the clown he was referring to. For suggeting that its solely the munster fans and their "sacred cow" that keep the championship from being an open draw. And I have spent 25 years of watching Limerick mostly lose so no im not intitled. Surely its more intitled to feel that we all have to pretend Wexford are a major power in hurling ATM because of past glory Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 06/05/2019 16:12:36 2182147 Link 0 |