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Are Kilkenny now 4th In Leinster?

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Replying To hurlorhurley:  "1st Galway
2nd Kilkenny
3rd Wexford
4th Dublin
5th Carlow

That would be my current order on things although 2nd,3rd, and 4th are all at an equal par. Home advantage will be critical in those games.

Dont rule out Carlow sneaking a win v one of those three also"
Can't disagree with that. I think there's hardly anything between Kilkenny, Dublin and Wexford.

Dublin having Wexford in Parnell Pk could be the key fixture for us this year.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 03/05/2019 10:38:01    2181599

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Replying To MesAmis:  "Can't disagree with that. I think there's hardly anything between Kilkenny, Dublin and Wexford.

Dublin having Wexford in Parnell Pk could be the key fixture for us this year."
Think the key game in the group is kk against the dubs. If the dubs win it will give them a serious boost and put savage pressure on both Wexford and kk.
Fully expect Dubs to beat Wexford in PP (hope I'm wrong). Also expect Wexford to beat kk.
Agree with earlier post from Larry about chris crummey....super talent

Ej (Wexford) - Posts: 355 - 03/05/2019 12:17:35    2181626

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Replying To Mayonman:  "Pretty accurate post i would say.

I think Galway are a level above the others in Leinster but on a given day could be caught by KK, Wexford or Dublin.

KK, Wexford & dublin are very hard to split. I think those 4 teams will all be training realistically thinking they can win Leinster although Galway will be thinking bigger (doesn't mean it will happen)."
100%
Galway should win, but if they have an off day, one of KK, Dublin or Wexford could catch them out.
Likewise, if one of KK, Dublin or Wexford have an off day, Carlow could catch them out....
Here's hoping for a great championship!

extranjero (Wexford) - Posts: 375 - 03/05/2019 13:14:11    2181647

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Replying To bloodyban:  "You fancy Carlow for a big win..?! This is the funniest post iv heard all month."
Carlow wont get the big win but they will be competitive. Probably will get a pasting from one of the other 4 but I expect they'll run one of the other 4 fairly close as well. They are in the Leinster championship on merit. Would you look down your nose at them and be dismissive of them as much if Offaly with their tradition were there instead?

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1904 - 03/05/2019 13:25:49    2181651

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Given kk's current injury situation Dublin will never get a good a chance as Saturday week to turn them over in nowlan park

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 03/05/2019 13:51:38    2181660

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Replying To PoolSturgeon:  "Carlow wont get the big win but they will be competitive. Probably will get a pasting from one of the other 4 but I expect they'll run one of the other 4 fairly close as well. They are in the Leinster championship on merit. Would you look down your nose at them and be dismissive of them as much if Offaly with their tradition were there instead?"
I would be equally as dismissive of Offaly. The leinster Championship should have a max of 2 coming out of it,the finalists. That would still leave a good team in Munster missing out.

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 03/05/2019 14:24:14    2181674

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Think the key game in the group is kk against the dubs. If the dubs win it will give them a serious boost and put savage pressure on both Wexford and kk.
Fully expect Dubs to beat Wexford in PP (hope I'm wrong). Also expect Wexford to beat kk.
Agree with earlier post from Larry about chris crummey....super talent
Ej (Wexford) - Posts: 69 - 03/05/2019 12:17:35


If we can turn KK over in NP next weekend I think we'll come out of Leinster, I agree I think we'll squeeze by Wexford at home, really could have beaten yous last year in WP, although it is a game that could still go either way. We could be going into the Carlow game on 4 points but at the same time we could be going into the Carlow game with nothing! I think whatever happens Dublin should go into the last game against Galway with a chance of getting out of Leinster.

I'm confident of Dublin being able to beat anyone in Parnell Park, not saying they'd defo win any game there but it is worth 4/5 points to us imo.

Crummy, is and has been for a couple of years, one of the best hurlers in the country. I wouldn't dismiss Seán Moran either, serious talent as well.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 03/05/2019 14:48:30    2181682

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Replying To MesAmis:  "Think the key game in the group is kk against the dubs. If the dubs win it will give them a serious boost and put savage pressure on both Wexford and kk.
Fully expect Dubs to beat Wexford in PP (hope I'm wrong). Also expect Wexford to beat kk.
Agree with earlier post from Larry about chris crummey....super talent
Ej (Wexford) - Posts: 69 - 03/05/2019 12:17:35


If we can turn KK over in NP next weekend I think we'll come out of Leinster, I agree I think we'll squeeze by Wexford at home, really could have beaten yous last year in WP, although it is a game that could still go either way. We could be going into the Carlow game on 4 points but at the same time we could be going into the Carlow game with nothing! I think whatever happens Dublin should go into the last game against Galway with a chance of getting out of Leinster.

I'm confident of Dublin being able to beat anyone in Parnell Park, not saying they'd defo win any game there but it is worth 4/5 points to us imo.

Crummy, is and has been for a couple of years, one of the best hurlers in the country. I wouldn't dismiss Seán Moran either, serious talent as well."
Wexford and Dublin is a 50/50 no matter where the venue game in PP could easily be a draw

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 03/05/2019 15:05:28    2181686

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Replying To bloodyban:  "I would be equally as dismissive of Offaly. The leinster Championship should have a max of 2 coming out of it,the finalists. That would still leave a good team in Munster missing out."
Ridiculous statement

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 03/05/2019 15:12:34    2181687

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Replying To bloodyban:  "I would be equally as dismissive of Offaly. The leinster Championship should have a max of 2 coming out of it,the finalists. That would still leave a good team in Munster missing out."
You are either a clown or a simpleton.
On second thoughts......probably both

Ej (Wexford) - Posts: 355 - 03/05/2019 15:21:46    2181689

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Replying To bloodyban:  "I would be equally as dismissive of Offaly. The leinster Championship should have a max of 2 coming out of it,the finalists. That would still leave a good team in Munster missing out."
bloodyban - Get rid of you Munster championship and lets have a proper championship.

logger (Wexford) - Posts: 296 - 03/05/2019 15:32:49    2181693

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Replying To bloodyban:  "I would be equally as dismissive of Offaly. The leinster Championship should have a max of 2 coming out of it,the finalists. That would still leave a good team in Munster missing out."
What a stupid comment.

thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1746 - 03/05/2019 15:41:13    2181698

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Replying To wexico15:  "
Replying To MesAmis:  "Think the key game in the group is kk against the dubs. If the dubs win it will give them a serious boost and put savage pressure on both Wexford and kk.
Fully expect Dubs to beat Wexford in PP (hope I'm wrong). Also expect Wexford to beat kk.
Agree with earlier post from Larry about chris crummey....super talent
Ej (Wexford) - Posts: 69 - 03/05/2019 12:17:35


If we can turn KK over in NP next weekend I think we'll come out of Leinster, I agree I think we'll squeeze by Wexford at home, really could have beaten yous last year in WP, although it is a game that could still go either way. We could be going into the Carlow game on 4 points but at the same time we could be going into the Carlow game with nothing! I think whatever happens Dublin should go into the last game against Galway with a chance of getting out of Leinster.

I'm confident of Dublin being able to beat anyone in Parnell Park, not saying they'd defo win any game there but it is worth 4/5 points to us imo.

Crummy, is and has been for a couple of years, one of the best hurlers in the country. I wouldn't dismiss Seán Moran either, serious talent as well."
Wexford and Dublin is a 50/50 no matter where the venue game in PP could easily be a draw"
Yeah pretty much. Has the makings of a great game.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 03/05/2019 16:04:22    2181702

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1. Dublim
2. Wexford
3. Galway
4. Kilkenny

So hard to call though could be the complete opposite. Leinster is now ultra competitive. Pity there isn't one more county up there to make it equal to munster with 5 contenders. Ofally, Carlow and Antrim the best chance but looks a long way off.

I'd like kilkenny to miss out just for the novelty and I hope it's a Dublin v Wexford final. Get another 60k crowd to Croker and hopefully Wexford lift the title.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 04/05/2019 14:07:26    2181822

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Replying To logger:  "bloodyban - Get rid of you Munster championship and lets have a proper championship."
Liam Moynihan in the Examiner newspaper has basically said the same. The Munster and Leinster Championship
S are unequal and really 3 is too little to come out of Munster ...it should be 4. Realistically only Galway can be considered contenders for the All Ireland this year...maybe Kilkenny if they get a run. But theres no other team with the squad to compete.
Limerick
Galway
Cork
Clare
Tipp
Waterford
Kilkenny


Dublin
Wexford

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 04/05/2019 15:55:12    2181831

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there is a Leinster there for Wexford or Dublin. I think Galway could rally a bit like Lk did in the qualifiers but hurling is impossible to predict and that is good.

suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1671 - 04/05/2019 17:11:47    2181843

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One thing I do know is the currently Limerick team have a long way to go before they can be called a great team, wouldn't come near Kilkenny team of few years ago, Cork had them bet in semi last year but for a lucky save!!!!!! Anyway back to real Leinster championship, my top three are Galway, Dublin and Kilkenny. Carlow will struggle but deserve their shot and best of luck to them

ke40 (Kildare) - Posts: 209 - 04/05/2019 17:58:02    2181849

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Replying To bloodyban:  "Liam Moynihan in the Examiner newspaper has basically said the same. The Munster and Leinster Championship
S are unequal and really 3 is too little to come out of Munster ...it should be 4. Realistically only Galway can be considered contenders for the All Ireland this year...maybe Kilkenny if they get a run. But theres no other team with the squad to compete.
Limerick
Galway
Cork
Clare
Tipp
Waterford
Kilkenny


Dublin
Wexford"
What would be the point in turning the Munster Championship into a farce where 4 out of 5 teams get out of it?

There are other, far more obvious and fair, solutions.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 04/05/2019 20:50:06    2181864

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Are Kilkenny now 4th In Leinster?

Yes; since a ball has yet to be pucked, they are 4th in the table after Carlow (1st), Dublin (2nd), Galway (3rd) and Wexford (5th); alphabetically.

On the other hand, the bookies reckon (current best prices for the Leinster Championship):

1st - Galway 11/8, 2nd - Kilkenny 7/4, 3rd - Dublin & Wexford 7/1, 5th - Carlow 2500/1

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2478 - 04/05/2019 21:07:01    2181867

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Replying To MesAmis:  "What would be the point in turning the Munster Championship into a farce where 4 out of 5 teams get out of it?

There are other, far more obvious and fair, solutions."
Agreed. Ridiculous suggestion. Its not long since only one team got out of Munster and some say we should go back to that. What makes it such a great championship is its competitiveness.
If Carlow were to win one game or even be competitive in their games then I do see a problem in sending them back down to the JoeMc. This would then raise even more call for change in Munster. Maybe a Kerry win in the JoeMc would allow both to go to 6 teams. No doubt the current system will be changed in time and hopefully because more teams are able to compete at the top level.

ZUL10 (Clare) - Posts: 693 - 04/05/2019 21:24:39    2181869

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