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Michael Lyster

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Replying To Killarney.87:  "https://www.joe.ie/sport/pics-anyone-spot-gaffe-sunday-game-last-night-600283

https://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/michael-lyster-accidentally-ruin-man-match-surprise-173532"
What's this got to do with the Gleeson hurler of the year award? Man of the match is an RTE award and Hurler of the year is a GAA/GPA award. Not sure what point you are making with these links...

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 30/08/2018 15:51:03    2137706

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Michael Lyster will be missed. Charismatic man. Very laid back and relaxed. I remember bits of a metal structure falling down in the studio while the pundits were talking before some game. He just chuckled "the whole studio is falling apart here lads" and continued on as if nothing happened back to the analysis.

Grey_Wolf (Leitrim) - Posts: 236 - 30/08/2018 16:18:15    2137713

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Don't really understand the plaudits. He was well paid but delivered mostly awkward and clunky performances. I remember him at the Galway reception last year and he looked like it was his first day on the job. It was cringe. He was no Tom McGurk, Bill O Herlihy. They were a different class completely. Joanne Cantwell is a big improvement. Sunday Game is an awful production. Lyster not the worst but is a part of a very stale outfit . Good luck to him and all but he is no loss.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 30/08/2018 17:27:42    2137727

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Replying To Canuck:  "I can't believe that there is still people going on on over Gleeson getting HOTY. Get over it and leave this brilliant young hurler alone. He has been injured since and now is getting over that. Showing the gem he is in club hurling. Three line balls and three points last week. Joe Canning went through injury problems for awhile but eventually was able to show how special he is. Austin will prove the same in the years ahead.
Michael Lyster has been a star among presenters and all the best to him in retirement."
I've nothing against Austin Gleeson, he is a great hurler and best of luck to him.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 30/08/2018 17:30:47    2137729

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Replying To supersub15:  "If anyone listens or looks back on Michael Lyster's exit interview,well the way I read into it was he clearly didn't want to go, legally he didn't have to retire but he did, he was an honourable man and he will be sadly missed, so I wish him well, good health and happiness from here on in.
His successor Joanne Cantwell I wish her well in her new post, she is a very good presenter but I'm not so sure, imo I think it takes a bit more than being a good presenter, Daragh Maloney ticked all the boxes as far as I'm concerned but so be it. Gender quota along with gender balance may have played a small part in the appointment as well, however,along with that Joanne can bring a bit of balance to the post match analysis between RTE's Joanne Cantell and Sky's Rachael Wyse, just a thought really.
Window dressing the Sunday game is not going to improve things or make it more attractive to watch, more importantly the game itself should be looked at first in it's entirety."
I agree with a lot of that chief

I work in the industry abd have done for close to 20 years now and there is an awful lot of gender quota stuff going on especially at RTÉ after all the negative attention it has gotten in that department. There's a big push on it regardless of the talent level.

It's actually a completely redundant move as all it's done is create an atmosphere where more people feel hard done by. Positions should be based on talent not on what you have/don't have between your legs but there's a big social justice agenda going on and the broadcasting industry is gone into overdrive looking to prevent negative trending online and all it takes is the smallest story to create a snowballing-effect which can be very damaging in the eyes of advertisers looking to spend money

I own my own production/editing company so I'm out of the office politics TF but know plenty within that buzz to know that there's a fair bit of biting the lip going on. Only so long that can go on..

I feel that Darragh Maloney is an unlucky fellow. A lot outside of his control worked against him and I think he's the superior to what's currently in place. That's my professional opinion.

He's a commentator that I enjoy too, he injects enthusiasm into his broadcasting, very experienced chap and he served his time.

Unfortunately it's an odd time now. I see it as regression rather than progression if I'm very honest. Truly hope it starts to balance off again because you're watching a very reactionary time at present and with that comes bad decisions.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 30/08/2018 18:48:39    2137743

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Replying To bennybunny:  "Don't really understand the plaudits. He was well paid but delivered mostly awkward and clunky performances. I remember him at the Galway reception last year and he looked like it was his first day on the job. It was cringe. He was no Tom McGurk, Bill O Herlihy. They were a different class completely. Joanne Cantwell is a big improvement. Sunday Game is an awful production. Lyster not the worst but is a part of a very stale outfit . Good luck to him and all but he is no loss."
You're a brave man to go against the liberal agenda on here, the thumbs down brigade will be hammering the keyboards. I'm glad he's going, just wish he'd take Marty and the rest of the crew with him, we need the whole thing freshened up and get rid of the relics from another century.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3188 - 30/08/2018 22:07:44    2137773

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "You're a brave man to go against the liberal agenda on here, the thumbs down brigade will be hammering the keyboards. I'm glad he's going, just wish he'd take Marty and the rest of the crew with him, we need the whole thing freshened up and get rid of the relics from another century."
Liberal agenda?? Can someone not have an honest opinion on here without it being called "the liberal agenda"? You certainly seem to think a lot of your own opinion. There is an OFF button on your remote if you have a look. You can liberally press it.

kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 31/08/2018 02:01:03    2137804

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "You're a brave man to go against the liberal agenda on here, the thumbs down brigade will be hammering the keyboards. I'm glad he's going, just wish he'd take Marty and the rest of the crew with him, we need the whole thing freshened up and get rid of the relics from another century."
I'm with the two of you, I don't see what the fuss is. I think posters are getting nostalgic.

I do think Joanne Cantwell is good too and some posters are unfairly saying she is getting the gig because of gender quotas. I think she is better than Maloney.

RTE is very stale. The show are the All-Ireland hurling final was very poor and the 'awards' Section was just odd.

Marty is winging it for years and getting away with it as is Ger Canning.

Bill O'Herilihy was a far superior presenter and someone worth missing.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 31/08/2018 03:17:43    2137805

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Won't be sad to see the back of him...always was a poor presenter. Joanne Cantwell is worse with her nonsensical stats inputs..but it's endemic of their gaa coverage..canning is an awful commentator and can never hide his pro Dublin bias..sky are way ahead in terms of quality

mayotyroneman (Tyrone) - Posts: 1821 - 31/08/2018 09:54:37    2137837

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Replying To jimbodub:  "
Replying To supersub15:  "If anyone listens or looks back on Michael Lyster's exit interview,well the way I read into it was he clearly didn't want to go, legally he didn't have to retire but he did, he was an honourable man and he will be sadly missed, so I wish him well, good health and happiness from here on in.
His successor Joanne Cantwell I wish her well in her new post, she is a very good presenter but I'm not so sure, imo I think it takes a bit more than being a good presenter, Daragh Maloney ticked all the boxes as far as I'm concerned but so be it. Gender quota along with gender balance may have played a small part in the appointment as well, however,along with that Joanne can bring a bit of balance to the post match analysis between RTE's Joanne Cantell and Sky's Rachael Wyse, just a thought really.
Window dressing the Sunday game is not going to improve things or make it more attractive to watch, more importantly the game itself should be looked at first in it's entirety."
I agree with a lot of that chief

I work in the industry abd have done for close to 20 years now and there is an awful lot of gender quota stuff going on especially at RTÉ after all the negative attention it has gotten in that department. There's a big push on it regardless of the talent level.

It's actually a completely redundant move as all it's done is create an atmosphere where more people feel hard done by. Positions should be based on talent not on what you have/don't have between your legs but there's a big social justice agenda going on and the broadcasting industry is gone into overdrive looking to prevent negative trending online and all it takes is the smallest story to create a snowballing-effect which can be very damaging in the eyes of advertisers looking to spend money

I own my own production/editing company so I'm out of the office politics TF but know plenty within that buzz to know that there's a fair bit of biting the lip going on. Only so long that can go on..

I feel that Darragh Maloney is an unlucky fellow. A lot outside of his control worked against him and I think he's the superior to what's currently in place. That's my professional opinion.

He's a commentator that I enjoy too, he injects enthusiasm into his broadcasting, very experienced chap and he served his time.

Unfortunately it's an odd time now. I see it as regression rather than progression if I'm very honest. Truly hope it starts to balance off again because you're watching a very reactionary time at present and with that comes bad decisions."
Your post is excellent, and very professional, well done.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 3179 - 31/08/2018 12:12:47    2137874

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Excellent post indeed, and I couldn't agree more in that Daragh Moloney would have been an excellent replacement, and if truth be told the outstandingh candidate.

gilly0512 (Galway) - Posts: 1176 - 31/08/2018 12:43:22    2137886

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Best to Michael, very professional guy. How did he put up with Brolly, Spillane, O"Rourke, time to drain the swamp. Not fair on Cantwell to have to put up with their nonsense. Darragh Moloney is also good and very versatile, plenty for him to do.

suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1736 - 31/08/2018 13:22:03    2137900

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Replying To Killarney.87:  "I'm with the two of you, I don't see what the fuss is. I think posters are getting nostalgic.

I do think Joanne Cantwell is good too and some posters are unfairly saying she is getting the gig because of gender quotas. I think she is better than Maloney.

RTE is very stale. The show are the All-Ireland hurling final was very poor and the 'awards' Section was just odd.

Marty is winging it for years and getting away with it as is Ger Canning.

Bill O'Herilihy was a far superior presenter and someone worth missing."
Nothing wrong with Joanne Cantwell

But for me it was a massive promotion from where she had previously been.

It no doubt reflects Sky's/BBc's positioning of female broadcasters in prominent sports hosts/analysis positions

RTÉ don't have an original bone in their body

A little soon for her IMO and there were better placed broadcasters with more miles under their belt but I'm not surprised considering the push RTÉ have going on at the moment, the current climate within RTÉ benefited her greatly, right time, right place.

To that I have very little doubt.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 31/08/2018 15:23:42    2137939

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Replying To Killarney.87:  "I'm with the two of you, I don't see what the fuss is. I think posters are getting nostalgic.

I do think Joanne Cantwell is good too and some posters are unfairly saying she is getting the gig because of gender quotas. I think she is better than Maloney.

RTE is very stale. The show are the All-Ireland hurling final was very poor and the 'awards' Section was just odd.

Marty is winging it for years and getting away with it as is Ger Canning.

Bill O'Herilihy was a far superior presenter and someone worth missing."
Bill was a gentleman but his 'simple man' approach is unlikely to be seen again. I also think Cantwell is a stronger presenter than Maloney. I'm praising a Dub. - whatever next! Did she play football for Fingallions?

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 31/08/2018 15:53:25    2137950

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Nothing wrong with Joanne Cantwell

But for me it was a massive promotion from where she had previously been.

It no doubt reflects Sky's/BBc's positioning of female broadcasters in prominent sports hosts/analysis positions

RTÉ don't have an original bone in their body

A little soon for her IMO and there were better placed broadcasters with more miles under their belt but I'm not surprised considering the push RTÉ have going on at the moment, the current climate within RTÉ benefited her greatly, right time, right place.

To that I have very little doubt."
That's the problem, RTE copies everyone else so they are always late to the party with trends etc.

I do think Joanne Cantwell is good though and very knowledgeable on Football and Hurling. Maloney is weak on hurling. Don't get me wrong I think he is good too and a better Football commentator than Canning who was never bothered, and Marty.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 01/09/2018 15:08:21    2138162

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Personally I think this is the promotion that brings gender balance / quota within RTE seriously into question, I think it was a massive promotion for Joanne that seriously outweighs the balance between her qualification for the job and Daragh Maloney's.
Ms Dee Forbes has managed to feminise all depts. within RTE at an alarming rate, both radio and tv.
Good luck to Joanne Cantwell, however Daragh Maloney was a missed opportunity for RTE to improve their image.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 3179 - 01/09/2018 22:19:09    2138267

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Replying To supersub15:  "Personally I think this is the promotion that brings gender balance / quota within RTE seriously into question, I think it was a massive promotion for Joanne that seriously outweighs the balance between her qualification for the job and Daragh Maloney's.
Ms Dee Forbes has managed to feminise all depts. within RTE at an alarming rate, both radio and tv.
Good luck to Joanne Cantwell, however Daragh Maloney was a missed opportunity for RTE to improve their image."
Probably because Maloney is fronting the soccer these days, they didn't want him hosting the GAA too. I don't think Cantwell getting the job is a reflection on him, just think they maybe want a different face rather than the same person doing everything. Good luck to her.

kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 02/09/2018 02:07:06    2138288

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