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That is shocking stuff my god

wex82 (Wexford) - Posts: 214 - 14/07/2018 15:37:25    2121585

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Big players turn up?? Shocking stuff first half.

Dirk (Wexford) - Posts: 65 - 14/07/2018 15:40:34    2121587

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A very tame exit and a hugely disappointing performance

dumptruck1 (Wexford) - Posts: 206 - 14/07/2018 16:38:32    2121595

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Why do we use the same substitues every day? No disrespect to the fellas who came on, but none of them would strike you as a game-changer when a goal was needed. And I assume Paudie was injured, as surely his delivery alone would have been useful when we moved Mac and Chin inside in the last quarter?

Hugely disheartening display though, and when being analytical about the season, it's hard to see if we have improved much at all. Quarter final remains a massive mental hurdle, our wide count shows no sign of reducing, distribution from the sweeper is poor and its a system that other teams are learning to bypass, while there is still no variancy from our puck-outs.

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1491 - 14/07/2018 16:43:55    2121598

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Our problems in simple terms
1: puck outs
2: sweeper
3. Discipline (both on the field and off the field)
4: wides
5: weak panel
6: our "professional hurlers"

890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 1278 - 14/07/2018 16:59:14    2121602

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First half puck outs were terrible, presumably under instruction. Some the distribution from the back was incredibly poor. Really think we need to reassess the sweeper system, hasn't worked v well this year. Chin has not been good overall, playing inside doesn't suit, not getting best from Conor Mac, who tbf, tried manfully today. Davy has lifted us no doubt but a change of direction and style of play needed.

dumptruck1 (Wexford) - Posts: 206 - 14/07/2018 17:09:12    2121605

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Replying To Yellow:  "I'd like to think there will be one day where we will click and everything will come together. The wides will go over and the breaks will go our way. And all our big players will turn up.

Let's hope it's today"
Looks like it wasn't today. Sweeper system is dead. So many poor wides and turnovers. Distribution from sweeper was terrible yet no changes made.

We looked flat, having no inside forwards means we have to hit Hail Marys which usually go wide. Showed very good fight to get back into it - felt we threw off the shackles in that period.

Bye Davy.

Yellow (Wexford) - Posts: 589 - 14/07/2018 17:27:58    2121609

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Anytime Wexford play top opposition it seems that a big score is conceded, 0-29 vs Galway last year, 1-27 VS Kilkenny league semi final, 1-23 vs Galway championship this year and now today 0-27 vs Clare.
So after two years has the sweeper been a success or not, Wexford were supposed to evolve their game this year, but as the season progressed the evolution didnt!

Perhaps its time Jack O'Connor was brought into the backs
Damien Reck is wasted corner back. Brings a great zip and purpose a bundle of energy.
Anyone else think we have a centre back problem, Matthew o Hanlon just seems too slow and cumbersome, gets the run around time after time.
Is Shaun Murphy the best Wexford can offer as a sweeper?

What goes on in training, does they not practice match situations, 4 points down-5 minutes to go, what do you do, and we just seem to have brain fog when we need a moment of clarity. decision making, clucth position, hold it.

After the Kilkenny game this year in the league, it seems the wheels started to fall off the wagon, and the game against them in the championship-the one that got away-did leave some mental scars no doubt.

Time for a lot of soul searching.

WexGoal (Wexford) - Posts: 13 - 14/07/2018 18:06:15    2121628

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We were pathetic today. So much wrong with the team I don't know where to start. I'd prefer to go man on man and lose by 20 than how we went out today with the sweeper. Lots of players under-performing and playing out of their best positions also. Unfortunately I don't think we are good enough when it comes down to it either.

Davy offers a lot but probably time to move on now.

Just a word ... I found the Clare fans particularly obnoxious today. From a team similar to ourselves without much success I was very surprised. Kind of hope Galway beat them now.

the_post (USA) - Posts: 186 - 14/07/2018 18:42:53    2121650

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I can't understand how we give the ball straight to opposition time and time again under no pressure.
Do we practice sidelines at all 3 points came from poor cuts.3 points came from fanning distribution straighgt to Clare men and Shaun Murphy gives every ball to opposition.Chin was poor again way off.Ryan tried hard and Mac is dangerous but still hit crazy wides.We are still way off the pace.

wex82 (Wexford) - Posts: 214 - 14/07/2018 18:53:34    2121662

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Overall a poor championship and I'm disappointed with the post match ownership and analysis. There's no excuses of fatigue this time, once again the sweeper system seems to be a ploy to keep the score down and damage limitation down. What manager in Ireland would play Lee Chin as full forward, he's one of the best midfielders, it's the equivalent of playing Joe Canning at full back for Galway. We have an amazing player in Conor Mc and he gets v little or non support at times with the sweeper system and only playing 5 forwards. We've spent more money under Davy's reign, been away on training camps abroad, top hotels to prep in Ireland and it's our 4th quarter final in 5 years. No real meaningful progress, I think we've taken a step backwards. All of the journalists will ask if Davy will stay, we should be asking ourselves as a county and county board why do we want him to stay..

castletownman (Wexford) - Posts: 262 - 14/07/2018 19:01:05    2121667

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Replying To beano:  "Why do we use the same substitues every day? No disrespect to the fellas who came on, but none of them would strike you as a game-changer when a goal was needed. And I assume Paudie was injured, as surely his delivery alone would have been useful when we moved Mac and Chin inside in the last quarter?

Hugely disheartening display though, and when being analytical about the season, it's hard to see if we have improved much at all. Quarter final remains a massive mental hurdle, our wide count shows no sign of reducing, distribution from the sweeper is poor and its a system that other teams are learning to bypass, while there is still no variancy from our puck-outs."
Our decision making under pressure is very poor, this obviously is not being trained or worked on.

castletownman (Wexford) - Posts: 262 - 14/07/2018 19:03:49    2121670

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The first half today was just a continuation of the Westmeath game, lethargic, poor first touch, an overall poor display.

Mark Fannings puckouts leave a lot to be desired, he put us under all sorts of pressure in the first half.

WexGoal (Wexford) - Posts: 13 - 14/07/2018 19:21:49    2121676

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Replying To castletownman:  "Overall a poor championship and I'm disappointed with the post match ownership and analysis. There's no excuses of fatigue this time, once again the sweeper system seems to be a ploy to keep the score down and damage limitation down. What manager in Ireland would play Lee Chin as full forward, he's one of the best midfielders, it's the equivalent of playing Joe Canning at full back for Galway. We have an amazing player in Conor Mc and he gets v little or non support at times with the sweeper system and only playing 5 forwards. We've spent more money under Davy's reign, been away on training camps abroad, top hotels to prep in Ireland and it's our 4th quarter final in 5 years. No real meaningful progress, I think we've taken a step backwards. All of the journalists will ask if Davy will stay, we should be asking ourselves as a county and county board why do we want him to stay.."
Look who appears after a loss lads!!!
Your credibility is shot on this thing as you have never made a positive comment since trying to argue that Liam Dunne should stay.

You even made some good points there and I was tempted to change my mind but then you said we have gone backwards!! Are you serious?? No doubt its a poor performance and result and year overall really but backwards?? We are in 1A( stayed up) won 1B and have beaten all top teams except Tipp under Davy. If thats not progress from a 9 point beating by Offaly in the park ill leave it so.

Im not saying i want Davy to stay either, I do think it has too be looked at and weigh up the costs etc and whether its the way forward.

My real honest opinion is at the back of it we arent quite good enough in the heat of summer. Will we do better if a new man comes in?? I wouldnt be too sure!

hurler101 (Wexford) - Posts: 471 - 14/07/2018 19:54:07    2121686

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Replying To hurler101:  "Look who appears after a loss lads!!!
Your credibility is shot on this thing as you have never made a positive comment since trying to argue that Liam Dunne should stay.

You even made some good points there and I was tempted to change my mind but then you said we have gone backwards!! Are you serious?? No doubt its a poor performance and result and year overall really but backwards?? We are in 1A( stayed up) won 1B and have beaten all top teams except Tipp under Davy. If thats not progress from a 9 point beating by Offaly in the park ill leave it so.

Im not saying i want Davy to stay either, I do think it has too be looked at and weigh up the costs etc and whether its the way forward.

My real honest opinion is at the back of it we arent quite good enough in the heat of summer. Will we do better if a new man comes in?? I wouldnt be too sure!"
Who made you the credibility police.. It's an opinion site, not a part time job. I read and engage when I want to..

I'm sure Galway are devastated by the progress they've made by staying in Div 1 B.. just saying like.. Davy inherited a changed and up and coming team, not a team in progress, he's incorrect to attribute the progress they've made in his 18 months, it's an accumulation of 5/6 years at this stage, we should be ready by now to make the break through.. it's basic maths, when we're spending that much we should get something back in return.

castletownman (Wexford) - Posts: 262 - 14/07/2018 20:20:55    2121694

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Replying To castletownman:  "Who made you the credibility police.. It's an opinion site, not a part time job. I read and engage when I want to..

I'm sure Galway are devastated by the progress they've made by staying in Div 1 B.. just saying like.. Davy inherited a changed and up and coming team, not a team in progress, he's incorrect to attribute the progress they've made in his 18 months, it's an accumulation of 5/6 years at this stage, we should be ready by now to make the break through.. it's basic maths, when we're spending that much we should get something back in return."
I disagree with u to we have beaten every team except Tipp under Davy.Cant really compare nut I do understand the money thing.Needs to be weighed up now to see if he should be kept a change now might be good but who would you bring in now to push us on to next level

wex82 (Wexford) - Posts: 214 - 14/07/2018 20:27:13    2121700

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Management have to go. They have simply shown no ability to develop a panel or to address any of the issues with performances throughout the last two years

890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 1278 - 14/07/2018 20:38:14    2121707

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Replying To wex82:  "I disagree with u to we have beaten every team except Tipp under Davy.Cant really compare nut I do understand the money thing.Needs to be weighed up now to see if he should be kept a change now might be good but who would you bring in now to push us on to next level"
I really don't understand why people quote the teams we have beaten under Davy. Ok, apparently we've beaten everyone except Tipperary. To me it's more important that we have lost to ALL the big teams in ALL the big games this year. Kilkenny in league semi & championship, Galway in championship, Clare in championship. The time for moral victories is long gone.

yelowbelly (Wexford) - Posts: 409 - 14/07/2018 20:48:03    2121718

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Replying To wex82:  "I disagree with u to we have beaten every team except Tipp under Davy.Cant really compare nut I do understand the money thing.Needs to be weighed up now to see if he should be kept a change now might be good but who would you bring in now to push us on to next level"
Why not one of our own Wexford men? I think JJ Doyle would be ready for the job now, he's definitely served his time.

The last time we beat Clare, they were all Ireland champions and Davy managed them. His time is up, time to move on from the septic tactics. It's not working for us.

castletownman (Wexford) - Posts: 262 - 14/07/2018 21:00:41    2121729

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I am in favor in saying goodbye to Davy after today's disgraceful performance. The only question is who do we bring in? In reality we don't have any top players maybe outside of Liam Ryan. Maddox has to given a chance at CB next season as O'Hanlon legs look like their gone.

I also feel there is a sense of complacency in the squad. Our bench is so weak that their no pressure on the starting 15 and thus it doesn't matter how bad their performance was their almost guaranteed a place in the 15. I hope we see Shore, Breen and a few U21s in the panel next year with a new coach, just to freshen it up because it seems to have gone very stale

Finchfurlong996 (Wexford) - Posts: 255 - 14/07/2018 21:01:37    2121730

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