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Replying To castletownman: "and training camps in Portugal are training camps.. where players will have been fatigued and worked etc. We should be well able to handle these demands, it's not like we didn't know this would be the lay out of the championship this year, and the physical demands on us. We've had similar demands in previous campaigns, and were well able to handle it." Ok fine. We will bring back Liam Dunne. He will fix everything!
hurler101 (Wexford) - Posts: 471 - 05/06/2018 12:17:44
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Intyeresting reading the comments are here as alot of people are starting to realise issues that I actually highlighted months ago,namely the make up of the team,our positioning of key players, our weaknesses and our reluctance to test squad depth which has well and truly came back to haunt us. As others are realising shaun murphys use of the ball and desicion making in possession has been woeful all year,showed big improvement via dublin but against galway when put under any pressure he misplaced ball after ball. Why didn't we push up 15 on 15 when we were 7/8 down,throw caution to wind?
How or why Donohoe was left on Cooney for the entire first half was unreal. Donohoe is a good hurler but simply couldnt compete with cooneys power and physique.
Why are lads slating O Hanlon? He was marking the best forward in ireland to be fair and canning didn't exactly roast himf from play,most of cannings bestwork was from line balls and frees.
Defensively we struggled with there physique. I suggested moving Jacko back wing back for his size and Igot slated because he caught a few balls in the league against clare and galway but him wing forward is a complete waste of a hurler. O Keeffe struggled defensively as he tends to against the top teams but of course he scores a few points against weaker teams which clouds judgement. Quality hurler but better further forward.
Our usage of chin and Mc Donald is the great mysetery. Chin gave a master class at midfield last year but hasn't played there since. Hes spent the hole year standing on the wing watching the ball bypass him having no influence which is clearly affecting his confidence. Play him centrally or we wont see the best of him. As others have said regarding Mc Donald,I really pity the lad.The most gifted forward we've produced in years being swallowed up by a system that drowons him out of the game.
How or why mc govern and kehoe came on before dunne,dunbar and tomkins I just dont know. If i were in their boots I wouldnt of been long having a go. Disgraceful decision to bring on a half fit mc govern instead of those lads. very bad for moral.
Personally I would take off the shackles via kk sat night and have a right go at them 15 v 15,we have nothing to lose litrerally. Yes we all know fatigue will be an issue but if davy had of managed his squad a bit better it wouldnt be such a big deal. Playing the same 15 three weeks in a row was idiotic.
My team for sat,6 changes.
Fanning
deveraux
Ryan
Firman
Foley
O Hanlon
Moore
Chin
Jacko
Dunne
ROC
Tomkins
Dunbar
Mc Donald
morris.
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Replying To MyOhMi: ""The lads worked their hardest on the weekend but we're fatigued" - Chin didn't work his hardest for the first goal .. He stopped and his man continued going forward" Youre right he let Mannion go. Dunno y. Hope he plays better against KK. Hes not bn great so far. Is he fully fit?
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15762 - 05/06/2018 14:41:58
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Replying To cragask: "Intyeresting reading the comments are here as alot of people are starting to realise issues that I actually highlighted months ago,namely the make up of the team,our positioning of key players, our weaknesses and our reluctance to test squad depth which has well and truly came back to haunt us. As others are realising shaun murphys use of the ball and desicion making in possession has been woeful all year,showed big improvement via dublin but against galway when put under any pressure he misplaced ball after ball. Why didn't we push up 15 on 15 when we were 7/8 down,throw caution to wind?
How or why Donohoe was left on Cooney for the entire first half was unreal. Donohoe is a good hurler but simply couldnt compete with cooneys power and physique.
Why are lads slating O Hanlon? He was marking the best forward in ireland to be fair and canning didn't exactly roast himf from play,most of cannings bestwork was from line balls and frees.
Defensively we struggled with there physique. I suggested moving Jacko back wing back for his size and Igot slated because he caught a few balls in the league against clare and galway but him wing forward is a complete waste of a hurler. O Keeffe struggled defensively as he tends to against the top teams but of course he scores a few points against weaker teams which clouds judgement. Quality hurler but better further forward.
Our usage of chin and Mc Donald is the great mysetery. Chin gave a master class at midfield last year but hasn't played there since. Hes spent the hole year standing on the wing watching the ball bypass him having no influence which is clearly affecting his confidence. Play him centrally or we wont see the best of him. As others have said regarding Mc Donald,I really pity the lad.The most gifted forward we've produced in years being swallowed up by a system that drowons him out of the game.
How or why mc govern and kehoe came on before dunne,dunbar and tomkins I just dont know. If i were in their boots I wouldnt of been long having a go. Disgraceful decision to bring on a half fit mc govern instead of those lads. very bad for moral.
Personally I would take off the shackles via kk sat night and have a right go at them 15 v 15,we have nothing to lose litrerally. Yes we all know fatigue will be an issue but if davy had of managed his squad a bit better it wouldnt be such a big deal. Playing the same 15 three weeks in a row was idiotic.
My team for sat,6 changes.
Fanning
deveraux
Ryan
Firman
Foley
O Hanlon
Moore
Chin
Jacko
Dunne
ROC
Tomkins
Dunbar
Mc Donald
morris." Agree about MOH kept Canning quiet enuf from play. Think hes trying get match fitness into Liam og. Dunno if Dunne or Dunbar wouldve got any ball against Galways back 6. No good being fast if you cant get the ball. Maybe hes saving them for the weekend. Maybe theyre not doing well enough in training. Chin playing more central makes sense but K Foley and Nolan have been, along with Paudie Rory and Ryan, our best players so far the round robin. Morris and Reck done well too. Maybe Chin could play centre forward and let Rory and Mac roam?
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15762 - 05/06/2018 15:00:47
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Lads can I say a couple of thinks for 1 I agree and disagree for lot of things on this for 1 we are always negative when we lose and blame the system I always say I don't mind playing the sweeper if you have the right man playing it.... look at Galway's tactics in first half pump the ball into the forwards fast and high as they new like Leinster final last year they had a advantage Murphy was not once near where the ball was landing.... Donohoe is a good corner back Saturday wasn't his day Noel Connors probably the best corner back would struggle with cooney cause of his height..... I do agree that the switch should of took place sooner.... jack o and d o.... jack o is a midfielder or half back for me d O Keefe is a midfield or half forward.... Brian Cody once said a wing backs job is to stop the ball getting into the full forward line scoring points is a bonus... O Hanlon I said it before O Hanlon as done very well at center back.... not using our squad which I agree with we didn't enough in the league.... chin for me has to play center forward dropping into midfield... Dunbar and dunne... was is the point in playing these 2 when Murphy pucks the ball out over the line or straight to the opponent most of the time they need fast low ball.... dunnes inconsistency for me i have only seen dunne play 2 good games for Wexford... Offaly in qualifies 2016 under dunne and in the league this year v Waterford.... 15v15 I agree why can't we go with a spine of the team Saturday of fanning Ryan O Hanlon foley Nolan chin and Mac.... I would let the reigns off Saturday 15v15 with a team of ... fanning devereax Ryan firman foley O Hanlon Moore foley Nolan Rory o chin Tomkins Dunbar McDonald McGovern maybe only 55 mins with dunne coming on
gannett83 (Wexford) - Posts: 317 - 05/06/2018 18:58:42
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Apparently Rory OConnor is a doubt for Saturday. Hand injury. Surely he can go if its not broken. It happened at the start of the game and he played on so you would imagine he will be fine. He would be a massive loss for us.
All this talk of dropping sweepers and moving okeefe and jacko are probably a waste of time. I agree it should happen but it wont. No way davy will take dee out of wing back. Not now. The only time he ever changed things up was against waterford last year and he changed it all to the detriment of the team.
We should start hoping that Kilkenny have forgotten how to stop our gameplan or that we get a much needed plan B sorted for Saturday night. I dont think Davy will change too much. He will think its too risky. At the very least all he needs to do is put mac at the edge of the square. Play chin centre forward and get him on the ball early and often. I wouldnt really mess aroumd with the backs. I do think the player hes looking for in okeefe is actually Reck. Reck played wing back last yesr and was great. Leave Okeefe move to half forward then. Bring young firman in a corner back hes probably played the most of any sub.
Wexboi92 (Wexford) - Posts: 74 - 05/06/2018 19:50:37
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Replying To hurler101: "Ok fine. We will bring back Liam Dunne. He will fix everything!" ????
castletownman (Wexford) - Posts: 262 - 05/06/2018 21:33:25
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Replying To Wexboi92: "Apparently Rory OConnor is a doubt for Saturday. Hand injury. Surely he can go if its not broken. It happened at the start of the game and he played on so you would imagine he will be fine. He would be a massive loss for us.
All this talk of dropping sweepers and moving okeefe and jacko are probably a waste of time. I agree it should happen but it wont. No way davy will take dee out of wing back. Not now. The only time he ever changed things up was against waterford last year and he changed it all to the detriment of the team.
We should start hoping that Kilkenny have forgotten how to stop our gameplan or that we get a much needed plan B sorted for Saturday night. I dont think Davy will change too much. He will think its too risky. At the very least all he needs to do is put mac at the edge of the square. Play chin centre forward and get him on the ball early and often. I wouldnt really mess aroumd with the backs. I do think the player hes looking for in okeefe is actually Reck. Reck played wing back last yesr and was great. Leave Okeefe move to half forward then. Bring young firman in a corner back hes probably played the most of any sub." THink there has been a bit of an over reaction to the Galway game. They are by far the best team in Ireland at the moment. We put in a performance like we are capable of on Saturday we'll be there or there abouts .Expect Firman to start but can't see Davy making many more even though we could do we 2 or 3 to freshen things up. Agree with most posters would love to see Jacko nd Dee switch but can't see this happening the same as we wont see 15 on 15. Wouldn't be surprised to See Chin at 11 however. Chin needs to be involved around the centre he is lost on the wing. We really need to curb the influence of Buckley at centre back. Would like to see Paudie Foley take up Tj Reid thought Hanlon struggled to cope with him in the league . We need to start giving Rory nd Conor Mac much better service in the full forward line . All is not doom and gloom . These lads have given great service of the last few years and we aren't as bad as we showed on Saturday . Hopefully our supporters travel again in huge numbers and get behind them. Our support will be needed as the lads inevitably will begin to tire . Our backs are to the wall however and I expect our lads to deliver a big performance on Saturday.
Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 05/06/2018 22:07:54
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Replying To hurler101: "Whats ridiculous is wanting to start players who have not played a minute all year. Why in the name of good would you think they are up to it?? On what are you basing calls for them to start??
Bring back Guiney?? A lad who has consistanly not lived uo to his name, a name inflated by his constant absence!!" Shane Thompkins is a good hurler
Firman has been go in the two tough league games he has played and I taught he has done well in the last two championship matches we played
Dunbar is a good young player that I feel deserves a chance
Colm Kehoe is a good hurler and we need to see if he up to it or not and what better place then in Nowlan Park against kk.
Where in my post did I say bring Guiney back??? You might think the above comment are ridiculous but I certainly do not. That what this board is about people giving their opinions, Is it not?
hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1135 - 05/06/2018 22:12:04
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If we bottle up your man TJ I'm sure we will get a result and also if we have a good referee that can cop on to the steps that the likes of Reid takes in every game and gets away with it. In my book Kilkenny will be no way near as good as they were in the park against wexford in the league.Honestly I think there MOJO is very flat. But I know ours is also after the Galway game but come the end of the week touch wood we will have it back.
Wexpurebred (Wexford) - Posts: 205 - 05/06/2018 23:33:49
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Poor performance no doubt on Saturday but I think there might be a slight overeaction here, putting things in perspective only Tipp in last years semi final have really gone toe to toe with Galway in championships 17 & 18 and unless there form takes a dramatic nosedive its hard to see them been stopped this year.
If us and kk were entering Saturdays game in the same situation I see it as a complete 50-50 but with there weekend off and our 4th week out in a row we're up against it but hopefully in adversity we show the same spirit Waterford did last Sunday when they were written off.
I'd love us to have a cut 15 on 15 on Saturday but cant see it happening,Chin needs to up it big time, i'm not buying playing wing forward is the big problem, he's done most of his hurling under davy there and given some brilliant performances there like tipp and cork in this years league, i do think midfield is his best position but he's more than capable of having a big influence at wing forward if he up's his game, ever sense he went off injured against clare in the league his form has snow-dived.
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Replying To Afinestick: "THink there has been a bit of an over reaction to the Galway game. They are by far the best team in Ireland at the moment. We put in a performance like we are capable of on Saturday we'll be there or there abouts .Expect Firman to start but can't see Davy making many more even though we could do we 2 or 3 to freshen things up. Agree with most posters would love to see Jacko nd Dee switch but can't see this happening the same as we wont see 15 on 15. Wouldn't be surprised to See Chin at 11 however. Chin needs to be involved around the centre he is lost on the wing. We really need to curb the influence of Buckley at centre back. Would like to see Paudie Foley take up Tj Reid thought Hanlon struggled to cope with him in the league . We need to start giving Rory nd Conor Mac much better service in the full forward line . All is not doom and gloom . These lads have given great service of the last few years and we aren't as bad as we showed on Saturday . Hopefully our supporters travel again in huge numbers and get behind them. Our support will be needed as the lads inevitably will begin to tire . Our backs are to the wall however and I expect our lads to deliver a big performance on Saturday." I agree Foley probably the best to match up to Reid needs to have plenty of aggression if you stand off him he can hurt us big time, O'Hanlon done well on wally walsh last year think he would be suited to him,I'd put reck on luke Scanlon, they'll probably have either blanchfield or Donnelly in the ff line maybe devereux could match up best there. If fennelly is in the ff line Ryan could go on him, fennelly done a number on him last year but I think Ryan has improved as a full back and arguably 2nd best in the country at the moment after daithi burke. If fennelly starts half forward o'keeffe could match up there like in league in 2017 although I agree wouldnt mind see him moved to midfield and Jacko to wing back.
At the other end off the pitch we really need physical men on Buckley and Walsh someone like Chin or Jacko akin to conal keaney a few weeks ago, Joe canning did a job on him too but he's a special talent in the form of his life. Someone like Conor Mac or even Chin has to go full forward on Walsh, walsh is a brilliant hurler but not a brilliant full back and seems to struggle against those good in the air, wouldn't be putting morris or Rory on him anyway, I would be concerned if kk put him as the spare man presuming we play 5 forwards he could serious damage in that role.
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Just seen there that ourselves and KK conceded the same cumulative total vs Galway (seventeen points). Incidentally, the lowest tally scored by any team in the Munster championship thus far was Tipp's 2-14 in round one versus Limerick. So it's clear to see that we are falling short in the scoring stakes when compared to our contemporaries.
And that's clear to see too in the same old high wide count per game and lack of form of some of our key forwards.
I would concur with the previous suggestions of moving Chin into centre-forward, and place Mac at the edge of the square IF Walsh starts there. Otherwise, move him wing-forward for his ball-winning ability. Give Chin a free-role at 11, start Dee wing-forward but drop him as an extra midfielder and allow Mac,Rory, Morris and AN Other fluid movement up front. Reck wing-back, Firman in one corner, Donohoe/Murphy in the other. Ryan on Fennelly if he starts at FF.
Strangely enough, I would like to see Richie Hogan thrown in from the start on Saturday as to me it would be a sign of desperation from Cody, and an admission that they have no one else up to be relied upon up front yet. Playing a half-fit Hogan certainly worked in our favour last year!
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To be honest we hadnt a hope of beating galway,i just couldnt see it!! Whatever about the league,galway have timed there run to perfection and i cant see them been caught this year again!! Its simple in my mind!! We cannot cope with big physical teams simple as,with or without a sweeper it doesnt matter!! I think certain players on our team are completely over rated!! I think we are in trouble with even the most average teams when they simply push up on us,eg dublin,we didnt know what to do!!we will struggle against kilkenny big time if they have fennelly hogan tj walter in and fit,they will adapt the same tactic as galway and its simple we cant cope with that!!i think when murphys put under pressure to mop up ball in a crowded area with big men and put under pressure hes not able,he does look good against the poor teams tho!!i dont think if we go 15 v15 like some people want i wouldnt have murphy in the backs i think hed be takin to cleaners like walsh cup final when he wasnt a sweeper!! We have made huge strides as regards fitness levels and organisation but the quality just isnt there!!the system will get us so have like it has already and i can see the same outcome again this year!! The fundementals of hurling is all the skills,hard work and be able to dominate ur own area and when u can support the players around u!! I say it again win ur own area and the skills,catching,striking,passing,shooting,tackling !!we are poor in the air in defence and our shooting has always been terrible!!on a positive we have one good forward who has real potential in oconnor!!i think we have a huge amount of work on our hands and think its goin to be a long time b4 we win real trophys that we will be remembered for!!
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Replying To beano: "Just seen there that ourselves and KK conceded the same cumulative total vs Galway (seventeen points). Incidentally, the lowest tally scored by any team in the Munster championship thus far was Tipp's 2-14 in round one versus Limerick. So it's clear to see that we are falling short in the scoring stakes when compared to our contemporaries.
And that's clear to see too in the same old high wide count per game and lack of form of some of our key forwards.
I would concur with the previous suggestions of moving Chin into centre-forward, and place Mac at the edge of the square IF Walsh starts there. Otherwise, move him wing-forward for his ball-winning ability. Give Chin a free-role at 11, start Dee wing-forward but drop him as an extra midfielder and allow Mac,Rory, Morris and AN Other fluid movement up front. Reck wing-back, Firman in one corner, Donohoe/Murphy in the other. Ryan on Fennelly if he starts at FF.
Strangely enough, I would like to see Richie Hogan thrown in from the start on Saturday as to me it would be a sign of desperation from Cody, and an admission that they have no one else up to be relied upon up front yet. Playing a half-fit Hogan certainly worked in our favour last year!" Id say the munster teams wouldnt be racking up big totals on Galway either. Agree our forwards need to be more fluid to compensate for there bn less of them.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15762 - 06/06/2018 20:21:19
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Replying To theboys: "To be honest we hadnt a hope of beating galway,i just couldnt see it!! Whatever about the league,galway have timed there run to perfection and i cant see them been caught this year again!! Its simple in my mind!! We cannot cope with big physical teams simple as,with or without a sweeper it doesnt matter!! I think certain players on our team are completely over rated!! I think we are in trouble with even the most average teams when they simply push up on us,eg dublin,we didnt know what to do!!we will struggle against kilkenny big time if they have fennelly hogan tj walter in and fit,they will adapt the same tactic as galway and its simple we cant cope with that!!i think when murphys put under pressure to mop up ball in a crowded area with big men and put under pressure hes not able,he does look good against the poor teams tho!!i dont think if we go 15 v15 like some people want i wouldnt have murphy in the backs i think hed be takin to cleaners like walsh cup final when he wasnt a sweeper!! We have made huge strides as regards fitness levels and organisation but the quality just isnt there!!the system will get us so have like it has already and i can see the same outcome again this year!! The fundementals of hurling is all the skills,hard work and be able to dominate ur own area and when u can support the players around u!! I say it again win ur own area and the skills,catching,striking,passing,shooting,tackling !!we are poor in the air in defence and our shooting has always been terrible!!on a positive we have one good forward who has real potential in oconnor!!i think we have a huge amount of work on our hands and think its goin to be a long time b4 we win real trophys that we will be remembered for!!" I think youre being hard on the lads there. Alot of these lads beat Kilkenny by 17 points in an u21 Leinster final. They can obviously shoot tackle pass etc. In fact the skills as in picking the ball up cleanly, catching passing etc have come on leaps and bounds in the last 4 years or so. There is still a fragility or uptightness when playing the bigger matches though, regardless of the opposition. The lads still seem very nervous on the big occasions and this seems to hold them back. If you spend the week thinking about a big occasion coming up the excitement/lack of proper sleep can tire you out. Maybe the flatness isnt down to physical tiredness but rather a mental issue. Lee Chins bad form for example could be down to thinking too much about the upcoming games. If hes not injured. Maybe hed play better if he got a job. Hed be mentally fresher perhaps. Likewise Mac. I dont care what you say Mac has all the skills in spades. And the physique also. Maybe the pressure of our newfound expectations is dragging our team down. Maybe Paudie Foley is playing so well because he did a year out and a bit of travelling. Hes another lad that has all the skills and the physique. Maybe the lads should get a few pints once in a while!! Who knows? We can speculate and philosophise all we want but its all nonsense at the end of the day. It ll be up to the lads to be up for the game. The best thing about following Wexford since the early 90s still hasnt changed- none of us really have a clue what will happen any given Saturday or Sunday!!
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15762 - 06/06/2018 21:18:39
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Replying To Viking66: "I think youre being hard on the lads there. Alot of these lads beat Kilkenny by 17 points in an u21 Leinster final. They can obviously shoot tackle pass etc. In fact the skills as in picking the ball up cleanly, catching passing etc have come on leaps and bounds in the last 4 years or so. There is still a fragility or uptightness when playing the bigger matches though, regardless of the opposition. The lads still seem very nervous on the big occasions and this seems to hold them back. If you spend the week thinking about a big occasion coming up the excitement/lack of proper sleep can tire you out. Maybe the flatness isnt down to physical tiredness but rather a mental issue. Lee Chins bad form for example could be down to thinking too much about the upcoming games. If hes not injured. Maybe hed play better if he got a job. Hed be mentally fresher perhaps. Likewise Mac. I dont care what you say Mac has all the skills in spades. And the physique also. Maybe the pressure of our newfound expectations is dragging our team down. Maybe Paudie Foley is playing so well because he did a year out and a bit of travelling. Hes another lad that has all the skills and the physique. Maybe the lads should get a few pints once in a while!! Who knows? We can speculate and philosophise all we want but its all nonsense at the end of the day. It ll be up to the lads to be up for the game. The best thing about following Wexford since the early 90s still hasnt changed- none of us really have a clue what will happen any given Saturday or Sunday!!" One of the best posts on here I have seen. When things are going well we think we are amazing when we lose we are horrendous ... the answer is some where in between. We can rattle any team on our day and do into any match with a degree of confidence (unlike the last decade ) maybe bar galway who look a cut above everyone this year.
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Replying To gminor: "So was there really any point getting rid of Liam Dunne at all if you think we don't have the hurled.?" Yet again you bring in Liam Dunne to the mix!!!! I have lost count of how many times you push your pro liam agenda here!!! He is gone, can you not just move on at this stage and support the team thats there.
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An extract from Davy Fitgerald's post match interview with Liam Spratt last Saturday:
'This Wexford team, they WILL get there, just stay with. I know there's a few disgruntled people. Can I tell most of the supporters? Don't listen to them guys, just stay with the people who are behind us all the time.'
Sliotharyslope (Wexford) - Posts: 138 - 07/06/2018 12:58:42
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