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Wexford hurling 2018

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Replying To Sliotharyslope:  "Anyone believing that Wexford will beat Offaly easily are frankly deluding themselves. The same attitude existed among some supporters before we played Offaly in '81, ,'82, '84, '88 in Leinster and in '91 in the League final. Wexford had beaten Kilkenny in the previous game on 4 of these occasions before Offaly sent us home with our tails between our legs each time. I think it's disrespectful to such a great hurling county to make such silly predictions. Knowing what Offaly bring to the table in terms of unity, honest, hard work and no little skill, I think we will see a very close encounter again on Saturday evening."
That's absolutely spot on. 84 was the worst of those matches. That Wx team was class but were over confident, Offaly got off to a great start and Wx came back but ran out of time. 30 years later and sick is the only word to describe that experience.

Be under no illusions, this is Wexford's most important game of the season.
Lose and with a series of other potential results, we could be in real trouble of being demoted.
Win and we have a good summer ahead of us.

This squad are well capable of winning but only of they are focused because this Offaly team are solid and motivated.

Good luck to the hurlers!

Punter72007 (Wexford) - Posts: 319 - 24/05/2018 17:50:10    2103639

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Replying To cragask:  "Fair point on Macs movement he can be a bit static at times and his workrate needs to be more consistent but I still morris or whoever is beside mac needs to play closer to him and support him better,at times last week morris was 40 yards from mac when bad ball was delievered, offerring no support at all. Better movement,better ball and more support and mac will deliever. If we could somehow create 1 v 1this is where he thrives."
How on one hand can you be critical of how far Morris was away from Mac and then hope that we could create 1 v 1 situations?? This is total rubbish.

shamedmodelman (Wexford) - Posts: 42 - 24/05/2018 20:49:29    2103673

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Replying To cragask:  "Fair point on Macs movement he can be a bit static at times and his workrate needs to be more consistent but I still morris or whoever is beside mac needs to play closer to him and support him better,at times last week morris was 40 yards from mac when bad ball was delievered, offerring no support at all. Better movement,better ball and more support and mac will deliever. If we could somehow create 1 v 1this is where he thrives."
I agree that he needs support but it cant come from the other inside forward. If Morris stays close to Mac their spare man has the opportunity to double mark them both, ie just double tackle which ever one gets the ball because they are in close proximity! The fact that morris moves laterally is the only thing creating any space in front of goal. To play an effective 2 man inside line you need a lot of movement.( you also need quick ball to encourage such movement)

Mac is ingrained in the old style full forward mode, and to be fair to him he'd do an excellent job at this and be a serious threat to any full back. Its not his fault either as all his life ball has been rained in on him at will and he hasnt had to work on his movement from a young age.

To be fair to all our inside forwards(and i was on for a good few years at a reasonably high level) i wouldnt fancy their job. The ball coming in is slow and im not sure Davy wants his inside men doing the scoring, as compared to traditional hurling. The plan seems to be always taylored to get a free shooter on the 40 or out wide. Im not complaining by the way lads thats just an observation.

As i have said i think last weeks 15 will start as its our best 15. Unlike others I think any more than 2 changes would weaken our team a lot.
Just hoping for a win tomorrow night and we can have a right rattle at galway the following week!

hurler101 (Wexford) - Posts: 471 - 24/05/2018 21:02:39    2103676

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Replying To shamedmodelman:  "How on one hand can you be critical of how far Morris was away from Mac and then hope that we could create 1 v 1 situations?? This is total rubbish."
yeah was saying same.
hurler101 is right,one v one situations need space,not another lad and his man and a sweeper in beside him.we will not create goal scoring opportunities with the system we play,we either get quick ball in away from a sweeper,or we accept d o keefe etc bombing up the pitch and getting a few points.because once they do,defences just drop off.once we win,i dont care which.
i also agree Punter72007 this is without a doubt our most important game of the year.i did think it before last sundays match,but a win on saturday is nothing short of vital.lose,and we are staring the joe mcdonagh cup in the face.win,and we have a mighty tussle v galway coming on the horizon.
if we feel we are genuine contenders,it is a game we should win and must win.
i wont make the game due to champions league final,what were gaa authorities thinking playing this at 7.....baffling

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 25/05/2018 08:45:58    2103725

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The GAA fixtures committee should appoint Nostradamus to arrange all the games from now on. In their defence, the draw was made in October, how could they legislate for a well-supported team like Liverpool getting to the CL final? There wouldn't be a peep had it being Real-Roma or Roma-Bayern.

As for changing the throw-in time, both teams itinieries would have been in place for a while and they wouldn't like to be knocked off-kilter, while car-parking protocol would have to altered which would affect traffic on the day.

The GAA can't win between throw-in times and the ticket prices. Going to a match isn't compulsory, if you can't afford to go don't. Bringing kids to ANYTHING is expensive these days. I still think that the price of a ticket to a GAA championship match represents far better value when compared to their main competitors.

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1502 - 25/05/2018 10:45:35    2103754

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The GAA can't win between throw-in times and the ticket prices. Going to a match isn't compulsory, if you can't afford to go don't. Bringing kids to ANYTHING is expensive these days. I still think that the price of a ticket to a GAA championship match represents far better value when compared to their main competitors.

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 226 - 25/05/2018 10:45:35 2103754

i agree with that.i just thought maybe they could have had it at 5.
tickets are good value,but peoples interests go far beyond gaa in this day and age and supporters should be facilitated.
i saw a woman on twitter whinging about their been no stand tickets for children last weekend,the sense of entitlement is astonishing.

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 25/05/2018 12:02:16    2103766

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Im really worried about this game tomorrow, its massive. The rest of our year hangs on this game. Offaly are openly saying they have targeted this game. They will come at us hard and not let up. If we dont realise that we could be in trouble. Theres no doubt we have better players than them but it wont count for much of we dont go to tullamore desperate for a win. Remember the last time we played offaly in the league. Probably one of the lowest points of my time being a wexford supporter. It was all doom and gloom and they battered us by about 10 points. The same league Limerick embarrassed us in the gaelic grounds. I remember leaving that game vs offally thinking to myself how can this get any worse. It did get worse aswel. We were embarrassed in croker by dublin and barely beat laois in the league.

We need to pay offaly back for all of the days they gave us a bad beating and theres been a lot. Even in Dunnes first year they beat us in Tullamore easily enough bar a late rally by our lads. I hope they are reminded of these defeats and go to town on Offaly.

My team would be

Fanning

Reck, Ryan, Firman
Murphy
Okeefe, ohanlon, foley

Jack OConnor, k foley

Chin, Rory O'Connor, Tomkins (or someone else whos put their hands up in training)

Dunbar, McDonald

I dropped Nolan because he goes full tilt every week and there's potentially massive games on the horizon to determine if we get to a leinster final. Also to give jack a chance at midfield again where i think he is best suited leaving a spot for a natural forward at 12. Its a way of confirming if we are better of with jack at 12 or a natural forward. Jack was cleaned out the two times he played on Richie Leahy, looking ahead to that game theres no way in hell i would have him at 12 that week. Would jack be able to play the role okeefe has? He could have more of an impact on the oppositions puck outs. Move okeefe to midfield or somehing then.

Wexboi92 (Wexford) - Posts: 74 - 25/05/2018 12:14:30    2103768

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Replying To Wexboi92:  "Im really worried about this game tomorrow, its massive. The rest of our year hangs on this game. Offaly are openly saying they have targeted this game. They will come at us hard and not let up. If we dont realise that we could be in trouble. Theres no doubt we have better players than them but it wont count for much of we dont go to tullamore desperate for a win. Remember the last time we played offaly in the league. Probably one of the lowest points of my time being a wexford supporter. It was all doom and gloom and they battered us by about 10 points. The same league Limerick embarrassed us in the gaelic grounds. I remember leaving that game vs offally thinking to myself how can this get any worse. It did get worse aswel. We were embarrassed in croker by dublin and barely beat laois in the league.

We need to pay offaly back for all of the days they gave us a bad beating and theres been a lot. Even in Dunnes first year they beat us in Tullamore easily enough bar a late rally by our lads. I hope they are reminded of these defeats and go to town on Offaly.

My team would be

Fanning

Reck, Ryan, Firman
Murphy
Okeefe, ohanlon, foley

Jack OConnor, k foley

Chin, Rory O'Connor, Tomkins (or someone else whos put their hands up in training)

Dunbar, McDonald

I dropped Nolan because he goes full tilt every week and there's potentially massive games on the horizon to determine if we get to a leinster final. Also to give jack a chance at midfield again where i think he is best suited leaving a spot for a natural forward at 12. Its a way of confirming if we are better of with jack at 12 or a natural forward. Jack was cleaned out the two times he played on Richie Leahy, looking ahead to that game theres no way in hell i would have him at 12 that week. Would jack be able to play the role okeefe has? He could have more of an impact on the oppositions puck outs. Move okeefe to midfield or somehing then."
Richie leahybplays midfield.

hurler101 (Wexford) - Posts: 471 - 25/05/2018 16:27:19    2103812

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Replying To hurler101:  "Richie leahybplays midfield."
And hes not that tall either. He was cleaning up the breaking ball as far as I can remember. Was it Morrissey they had on Jacko? Think it was 1 of their newer lads and he spent most of his time holding Jacko so he couldnt catch it cleanly.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16717 - 25/05/2018 17:57:14    2103826

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Replying To perfect10:  "The GAA can't win between throw-in times and the ticket prices. Going to a match isn't compulsory, if you can't afford to go don't. Bringing kids to ANYTHING is expensive these days. I still think that the price of a ticket to a GAA championship match represents far better value when compared to their main competitors.

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 226 - 25/05/2018 10:45:35 2103754

i agree with that.i just thought maybe they could have had it at 5.
tickets are good value,but peoples interests go far beyond gaa in this day and age and supporters should be facilitated.
i saw a woman on twitter whinging about their been no stand tickets for children last weekend,the sense of entitlement is astonishing."
"Sense of entitlement is astonishing"
Why would you not agree that a child, particularly a child that sat in the stand for all home league and championship games (and club championship games) would not be entitled to sit with their parents in the stand for a championship match?
Especially so when their parents are season ticket holders who weren't allowed to sit in the open side with those season tickets.
The same parents who will travel to Tullamore tomorrow evening with the same child who has travelled to practically every league and championship match since they were old enough to watch a match.
Maybe we should ban children from the park altogether instead of having them take seats of real hurling supporters who will need them (unless of course there is an english soccer team playing a match at the same time)
Best of luck to the Wexford boys tomorrow evening.

Gaawex (Wexford) - Posts: 46 - 25/05/2018 23:33:29    2103883

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Replying To hurler101:  "Richie leahybplays midfield."
He was on jack oconnor both days at least for puck outs

Wexboi92 (Wexford) - Posts: 74 - 26/05/2018 00:10:59    2103890

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Replying To Viking66:  "And hes not that tall either. He was cleaning up the breaking ball as far as I can remember. Was it Morrissey they had on Jacko? Think it was 1 of their newer lads and he spent most of his time holding Jacko so he couldnt catch it cleanly."
Hes not tall but he was well able to make a great cstch off our puck out put in on oconnor and put it straight over the bar. Probably the score of the game in the first league encounter

Wexboi92 (Wexford) - Posts: 74 - 26/05/2018 00:13:14    2103891

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Replying To Wexboi92:  "He was on jack oconnor both days at least for puck outs"
He wasnt on him. He dropped back in front of Jacko as all midfielders do. The wing back was still on him, Enda Morrisey in the park if i remember correctly.

Best o luck tonight to all involved. Expect 1 positionsl switch in the forwards.

hurler101 (Wexford) - Posts: 471 - 26/05/2018 08:18:42    2103899

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Replying To Punter72007:  "That's absolutely spot on. 84 was the worst of those matches. That Wx team was class but were over confident, Offaly got off to a great start and Wx came back but ran out of time. 30 years later and sick is the only word to describe that experience.

Be under no illusions, this is Wexford's most important game of the season.
Lose and with a series of other potential results, we could be in real trouble of being demoted.
Win and we have a good summer ahead of us.

This squad are well capable of winning but only of they are focused because this Offaly team are solid and motivated.

Good luck to the hurlers!"
I remember '84 well. 8-9 points down after 25 mins before we registered a single score. We came storming back in the second half and had all the momentum before referee Paschal Long blew uo 2 mins before the end of normal time ( a big and controversial talking point at the time). If I recall correctly we pipped Offaly in a league quarter final the same year In Croke Park with 2 late points from Billy Byrne who I think was playing at midfield that day. I remember that day because the weather was atrocious .

Sliotharyslope (Wexford) - Posts: 138 - 26/05/2018 09:10:04    2103914

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Weather there will 1 or 2 changes or not I wasn't surprised to see the same time published, really hope liam og isn't rushing back like last year.

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 26/05/2018 09:41:52    2103922

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https://wexfordweekly.com/2018/05/26/wexford-fans-will-be-delighted-with-players-re-introduction-to-match-day-panel/

Team is named and great to see Liam Og back!

youngroryjacob (Wexford) - Posts: 99 - 26/05/2018 09:44:09    2103923

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Serious improvement from last week, god Offaly were shocking tho, thought Jacko was immense, Chin much better than last week. Roll on Galway, think we are just coming into form.

dumptruck1 (Wexford) - Posts: 206 - 26/05/2018 22:41:28    2104041

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Well lads just home from tullamore... were we that good or were Offaly so poor a bit of both I thought we were superb in the first 15-20 as regards movement and and using the ball and I would go about saying that is the best out and out performance under Davy... as regards Offaly we can only beat what's in front of us but Michael duignan feels like some gobshite now as I heard him saying yesterday that Wexford won't know what hit them as Offaly will rattled Wexford.... my only concern is why wasn't more subs used like Tomkins and Dunbar.... also we didn't get a hard physical match which could be better for us as regards recovery for next Saturday night...can not wait just hope I get my ticket as I haven't Missed a game all year Walsh cup included....

gannett83 (Wexford) - Posts: 322 - 26/05/2018 23:50:32    2104051

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Well lads it was a late one home last night but it was worth the journey... we're Offaly that bad or were we that good in my opinion it was the best we played under Davy as regards what he wants us to do with movement poo t taking and using the ball.. Offaly might of been bad but ya have to earn the right to win a match and we stamped our authority all over them from the first whistle... my only complaint was the 2 goals we conceded... also we should of gave game time to the likes of Tomkins and Moore and Dunbar but it was great to see Liam og back.... Michael duignan wrote in his column in the paper Thursday that Wexford wouldn't know what hit them when they come to tullamore well I bet he feels a stuipid man...anyway overall a great performance with jack o my man of the match followed closely by Aidan Nolan and Liam Ryan also in my opinion Kevin foley is such a underrated hurler I think he is class act... roll on Saturday in the park just hope I get my ticket as i haven missed a match All year including Walsh cup...

gannett83 (Wexford) - Posts: 322 - 27/05/2018 06:34:07    2104059

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Delighted with performance last night . We really did up our game from last week. Very surprised at Offalys limp display really thought they had came on this year. Last night was a complete stroll which means we should be fresh for next weekend while Galway face a huge battle today and a day less recovery. Does anyone know if we finish level on points does it go down to score difference or head to head? We have put ourselves in a great position and I think one more win should guarantee us a Leinster final place. Our championship really kicks into full swing from here. We have got over the potential banana skins now its time to push on. Hoping for a narrow Kilkenny win later as it would mean that a win next weekend guarantees us a Leinster final place. The next 2 weeks will really tell us where we stand as contenders . Hopefully a sell out crowd next Saturday evening to give the All Ireland champions a right battle in the park. Really looking forward to it!!

Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 27/05/2018 08:37:14    2104067

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