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i looked at the highlights during a break there.
our full back line love to get forward,which is great.but for dublins first goal,there was 3 dublin players on their own,and 4 wexford players standing 15 yards away.
i feel we are too loose and our full back line will need to be ready to take on dooley and bergin,who are big men.
if our sweeper is suppose to stop goals,why do we concede so many?6 scored in 8 matches,8 conceded.very poor record.we have electric forwards,well able to score goals,
are we robbing peter to pay paul?
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We will be playing our full strength team against Offaly of that there's no doubt, anyone listening to Davy's comments after the game will attest to that.
The question though is what is our strongest team as there are places up for grabs with lads challenging that first 15 that started last Sunday.
tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1537 - 22/05/2018 18:15:04
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I would be inclined to agree with alot of the previous posts. My overriding emotion was one of pure relief. To be honest we were 7/8 points a better team than dublin but 10 minutes of madness almost cost us,few individual errors and lack of concentration.I think there is a hell of alot more in us than that. The performance itself was in fits and starts,i was impressed with our tackling and aggression but again ourshooting and deliver to the inside forwards was very poor. Defensively we were very good bar 2 lapses, anytime you concide only 2-4 from play you have a decent chance. Our full back line was very good and to be fair to shaun murphy he had his best game of the year, i had been critical of him during the league and rightfully so but it was good to see him use the ball alot better than he had been.
Corner backs were tigerish and game but a bit naive at times. Half back line hurled well. Great to see O keeffe return to form. Everybody knows he is an outstanding hurler,defensive question marks will and do remain against the really top teams but he has the ability to turn wing forwards the other way which must be a forwards nightmare.Hit 2 scoreable wides though. Paudie foley was excellent,he is probably the best ball striker we've had in a long time.Nolan and foley were excellent midfield,rory's quality is self explanatory. Jacko worked hard but continues to look lost wing forward,if were not lumping puckouts on top of him and him winning them,he offers littlte else in this position. Big fan of his overal though. As mentioned previousely we are not getting the best out of lee chin by any means and wont while hes played wing forward but as i mentioned before fitting him in centrally with nolan, foley and o connor is the issue. Ourinside forwards struggled against the extra man and werent helped by the limited amount of poor quality ball that was delievered. Morris in particular is simply too static, as possession broke off mc donald he should of been reading it. Theres no doubting mc donalds quality but he needs help beside me which morris hasn't been providing.
I expect 4/5 changes next week,i feel we can bring in 4/5 without weakening the team at all. If Darren byrne was fit he would be in contention to start purely because he can play at 3 as i would put liam ryan on shane dooley.Id bring in byrne, deveraux,moore,dunbar and dunne. that would still us with harry kehoe,shane tomkins on the bench alongside reck,donohoe,nolan,jacko and morris. Such a shame guiney aint around (the reasoning for his absentice is actually injury, the timeline of other rumours are way off the mark). Hopefully mcGovern can offer his services soon aswell.
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Donohoe could potentially be suspended for Saturday after the incident with Gilroy near the sideline.
I did think it was a bit silly out of him but rushe should also face retrospective punishment for grapping liam ryans faceguard in the lead up to the 2nd goal
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Replying To cragask: "I would be inclined to agree with alot of the previous posts. My overriding emotion was one of pure relief. To be honest we were 7/8 points a better team than dublin but 10 minutes of madness almost cost us,few individual errors and lack of concentration.I think there is a hell of alot more in us than that. The performance itself was in fits and starts,i was impressed with our tackling and aggression but again ourshooting and deliver to the inside forwards was very poor. Defensively we were very good bar 2 lapses, anytime you concide only 2-4 from play you have a decent chance. Our full back line was very good and to be fair to shaun murphy he had his best game of the year, i had been critical of him during the league and rightfully so but it was good to see him use the ball alot better than he had been.
Corner backs were tigerish and game but a bit naive at times. Half back line hurled well. Great to see O keeffe return to form. Everybody knows he is an outstanding hurler,defensive question marks will and do remain against the really top teams but he has the ability to turn wing forwards the other way which must be a forwards nightmare.Hit 2 scoreable wides though. Paudie foley was excellent,he is probably the best ball striker we've had in a long time.Nolan and foley were excellent midfield,rory's quality is self explanatory. Jacko worked hard but continues to look lost wing forward,if were not lumping puckouts on top of him and him winning them,he offers littlte else in this position. Big fan of his overal though. As mentioned previousely we are not getting the best out of lee chin by any means and wont while hes played wing forward but as i mentioned before fitting him in centrally with nolan, foley and o connor is the issue. Ourinside forwards struggled against the extra man and werent helped by the limited amount of poor quality ball that was delievered. Morris in particular is simply too static, as possession broke off mc donald he should of been reading it. Theres no doubting mc donalds quality but he needs help beside me which morris hasn't been providing.
I expect 4/5 changes next week,i feel we can bring in 4/5 without weakening the team at all. If Darren byrne was fit he would be in contention to start purely because he can play at 3 as i would put liam ryan on shane dooley.Id bring in byrne, deveraux,moore,dunbar and dunne. that would still us with harry kehoe,shane tomkins on the bench alongside reck,donohoe,nolan,jacko and morris. Such a shame guiney aint around (the reasoning for his absentice is actually injury, the timeline of other rumours are way off the mark). Hopefully mcGovern can offer his services soon aswell." I actually think you have the Morris Mac situation backwards. I think Mac makes it easy for himself to be double marked with little or no lateral movement, also when he is double marked he should move the ball quicker but he is ignoring the first easy pass to try get a scoring opportunity himself. I also question his work rate when we havent got the ball.
Morris on the other hand works hard across the line to look for the ball and when we dont have it. Yes he isnt as naturally gifted as Mac but at the moment he is not the one who needs to look at his game. He is maximising what he has. Mac is not.
Most people are spot on about the performance and the issues going forward but i wouldnt change too much. I think the 15 we had on Sunday is our best and I have seen nothing from the bench that suggests otherwise at this level. Darren Byrne is a good full back but without any experience having missed the league, would you risk Offaly landing Joe Bergin in on him??
We will need to call on our squad at some stage but i wouldnt think much changed in Davys mind since last Sunday!
hurler101 (Wexford) - Posts: 471 - 22/05/2018 21:19:35
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Absolutely buzzing after Sunday's game lads......all credit to heart stopping finishes.....just on Conor Mac I thought He worked hard and his layoffs were very good.....I think He was nearly spent at 50 mins mark. It was a pity as Dublin had gone man on man and spaces were starting to appear.
buckler91 (Wexford) - Posts: 12 - 23/05/2018 09:30:28
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Really looking forward to the game Saturday evening. What im hoping to see is a win and the lads looking sharper going into the Galway game. Hopefully the wide count was down to it being the first championship match of the year.
Does anyone know if the Cairde Loch Gorman membership gives you the chance to get an all ireland final ticket if we get there? It says you get advance access to tickets (which i dont understand because I bought my tickets weeks ago on tickets.ie). I didnt get a season ticket because I save more with my student card going to games. Im always worried if we get there i wont be able to get a ticket after going to the majority of games.
Wexboi92 (Wexford) - Posts: 74 - 23/05/2018 09:34:32
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Any buses going to Tullamore on Saturday?
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Replying To Wexboi92: "Really looking forward to the game Saturday evening. What im hoping to see is a win and the lads looking sharper going into the Galway game. Hopefully the wide count was down to it being the first championship match of the year.
Does anyone know if the Cairde Loch Gorman membership gives you the chance to get an all ireland final ticket if we get there? It says you get advance access to tickets (which i dont understand because I bought my tickets weeks ago on tickets.ie). I didnt get a season ticket because I save more with my student card going to games. Im always worried if we get there i wont be able to get a ticket after going to the majority of games." only way to guarantee an all ireland ticket is a season ticket
perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 23/05/2018 15:12:48
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Replying To cragask: "I would be inclined to agree with alot of the previous posts. My overriding emotion was one of pure relief. To be honest we were 7/8 points a better team than dublin but 10 minutes of madness almost cost us,few individual errors and lack of concentration.I think there is a hell of alot more in us than that. The performance itself was in fits and starts,i was impressed with our tackling and aggression but again ourshooting and deliver to the inside forwards was very poor. Defensively we were very good bar 2 lapses, anytime you concide only 2-4 from play you have a decent chance. Our full back line was very good and to be fair to shaun murphy he had his best game of the year, i had been critical of him during the league and rightfully so but it was good to see him use the ball alot better than he had been.
Corner backs were tigerish and game but a bit naive at times. Half back line hurled well. Great to see O keeffe return to form. Everybody knows he is an outstanding hurler,defensive question marks will and do remain against the really top teams but he has the ability to turn wing forwards the other way which must be a forwards nightmare.Hit 2 scoreable wides though. Paudie foley was excellent,he is probably the best ball striker we've had in a long time.Nolan and foley were excellent midfield,rory's quality is self explanatory. Jacko worked hard but continues to look lost wing forward,if were not lumping puckouts on top of him and him winning them,he offers littlte else in this position. Big fan of his overal though. As mentioned previousely we are not getting the best out of lee chin by any means and wont while hes played wing forward but as i mentioned before fitting him in centrally with nolan, foley and o connor is the issue. Ourinside forwards struggled against the extra man and werent helped by the limited amount of poor quality ball that was delievered. Morris in particular is simply too static, as possession broke off mc donald he should of been reading it. Theres no doubting mc donalds quality but he needs help beside me which morris hasn't been providing.
I expect 4/5 changes next week,i feel we can bring in 4/5 without weakening the team at all. If Darren byrne was fit he would be in contention to start purely because he can play at 3 as i would put liam ryan on shane dooley.Id bring in byrne, deveraux,moore,dunbar and dunne. that would still us with harry kehoe,shane tomkins on the bench alongside reck,donohoe,nolan,jacko and morris. Such a shame guiney aint around (the reasoning for his absentice is actually injury, the timeline of other rumours are way off the mark). Hopefully mcGovern can offer his services soon aswell." I'd make 2 or 3 changes personally but I don't think it will happen realistically, looking at the league bar the game in nowlan park we only really made changes due to injury or a family bereavement in 1 case
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The game is equally vital to both teams. Wexford will come up and try to put it out of question as early as possible.
Both teams may feel that they can play a bit better than they've show so far. I guess we'll see. Wexford w the obvious edge coming into the game, but not without hope on our end, although thinking a lot will have to go right for us.
Hoping for a good game and the outside chance of a result.
Good luck!
UpOffaly (Offaly) - Posts: 69 - 23/05/2018 16:10:47
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Replying To UpOffaly: "The game is equally vital to both teams. Wexford will come up and try to put it out of question as early as possible.
Both teams may feel that they can play a bit better than they've show so far. I guess we'll see. Wexford w the obvious edge coming into the game, but not without hope on our end, although thinking a lot will have to go right for us.
Hoping for a good game and the outside chance of a result.
Good luck!" Wexford you by 12-15 points end of story
hurlorhurley (Wexford) - Posts: 1660 - 23/05/2018 16:18:56
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I don't think any realistic supporter is writing offaly off. We have no right to be arrogant. Offaly have a few serious players and are a much improved team. They also have an excellent record against us, and will have picked us out as the top team they're most likely to beat.
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Looking forward to Saturday night and I hope we get the support I wil be traveling anyway hope we get a decent crowd....I can see offaly getting quick high ball into Bergen and Dooley wand go from there.. if Donohoe is going to miss game would it be worth moving o hanlon back to fullback and Ryan to the corner and Paudie foley to center back... o hanlon and Ryan could deal with Dooley and bergin physically not sure about Donohoe or reck... also lads do not take this game for granted win the game is the main think I can gaureenteeo Offaly would of targeted this and the Dublin game...I think either one of dunne or Dunbar could start Saturday as the 3 weeks will be starting to tell a tail on Offaly also would like to see Tomkins get game time... anyway hope we travel in numbers and get the win
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Replying To UpOffaly: "The game is equally vital to both teams. Wexford will come up and try to put it out of question as early as possible.
Both teams may feel that they can play a bit better than they've show so far. I guess we'll see. Wexford w the obvious edge coming into the game, but not without hope on our end, although thinking a lot will have to go right for us.
Hoping for a good game and the outside chance of a result.
Good luck!" UpOffaly best of luck too and may the best team win. I actually Offaly will make the quick start Saturday. Wexford are usually poor starters. It will be a good game that's for sure, both teams will feel they can get the points. Wexford by 4pts after a titanic battle.
logger (Wexford) - Posts: 308 - 23/05/2018 20:49:21
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I think its crazy to suggest we make 3-4 changes. If we beat Offaly we are pretty much guaranteed 3rd place I would think. Lads are training all year for these games and then because they played one match we should switch it up?! We don't have the strength in depth either. Offaly will be out to beat us. I am nervy about this one.
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Anyone believing that Wexford will beat Offaly easily are frankly deluding themselves. The same attitude existed among some supporters before we played Offaly in '81, ,'82, '84, '88 in Leinster and in '91 in the League final. Wexford had beaten Kilkenny in the previous game on 4 of these occasions before Offaly sent us home with our tails between our legs each time. I think it's disrespectful to such a great hurling county to make such silly predictions. Knowing what Offaly bring to the table in terms of unity, honest, hard work and no little skill, I think we will see a very close encounter again on Saturday evening.
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Replying To gannett83: "Looking forward to Saturday night and I hope we get the support I wil be traveling anyway hope we get a decent crowd....I can see offaly getting quick high ball into Bergen and Dooley wand go from there.. if Donohoe is going to miss game would it be worth moving o hanlon back to fullback and Ryan to the corner and Paudie foley to center back... o hanlon and Ryan could deal with Dooley and bergin physically not sure about Donohoe or reck... also lads do not take this game for granted win the game is the main think I can gaureenteeo Offaly would of targeted this and the Dublin game...I think either one of dunne or Dunbar could start Saturday as the 3 weeks will be starting to tell a tail on Offaly also would like to see Tomkins get game time... anyway hope we travel in numbers and get the win" Good call with O Hanlon dropping back to the full back line.I havent seen offally hurl yet so I cant remark on what position bergin will play or has been playing but if he's likely to play beside dooley in the ff line, what you suggested would be a good remedy.
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Replying To the_post: "I think its crazy to suggest we make 3-4 changes. If we beat Offaly we are pretty much guaranteed 3rd place I would think. Lads are training all year for these games and then because they played one match we should switch it up?! We don't have the strength in depth either. Offaly will be out to beat us. I am nervy about this one." we simply have to make changes with galway coming to town next week. We can make 5/6 changes without weakening our team, we should of given more squad players game time during the league to somewhat prepare them for days like sat. I'd expect 3/4 changes,be very surprised if we didn't.
cragask (Wexford) - Posts: 892 - 24/05/2018 17:36:52
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Replying To hurler101: "I actually think you have the Morris Mac situation backwards. I think Mac makes it easy for himself to be double marked with little or no lateral movement, also when he is double marked he should move the ball quicker but he is ignoring the first easy pass to try get a scoring opportunity himself. I also question his work rate when we havent got the ball.
Morris on the other hand works hard across the line to look for the ball and when we dont have it. Yes he isnt as naturally gifted as Mac but at the moment he is not the one who needs to look at his game. He is maximising what he has. Mac is not.
Most people are spot on about the performance and the issues going forward but i wouldnt change too much. I think the 15 we had on Sunday is our best and I have seen nothing from the bench that suggests otherwise at this level. Darren Byrne is a good full back but without any experience having missed the league, would you risk Offaly landing Joe Bergin in on him??
We will need to call on our squad at some stage but i wouldnt think much changed in Davys mind since last Sunday!" Fair point on Macs movement he can be a bit static at times and his workrate needs to be more consistent but I still morris or whoever is beside mac needs to play closer to him and support him better,at times last week morris was 40 yards from mac when bad ball was delievered, offerring no support at all. Better movement,better ball and more support and mac will deliever. If we could somehow create 1 v 1this is where he thrives.
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