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no combined school.dont know a thing about minor.very strange competition structure,rewarded with quarter final away.
http://leinstergaa.ie/competitions/electric-ireland-leinster-minor-hurling-championship-2017/
perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 09/05/2018 14:32:17
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There was a combined schools team. They got well beat by Dublin South in the first round of the "group team" section up in Abbotstown earlier in the year. From memory I can't recall how good or bad they were on the day but I think the schools have a higher age limit to the new format of the minor championship so there may be a few involved then that are ineligible for the weekend.
As an aside, is there the usual conflict connected to dual players this year? Haven't heard a thing from the camp and just curious as the minor footballers had a wide array of clubs represented vs Kildare but no-one from strong under-age set-ups like St.Martin's, Glynn or Shelmaliers. Seemed to suggest they were favouring hurling this year.
beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1502 - 09/05/2018 16:36:02
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Schools is under 18 and 1/2 so many of these lads wouldnt have featured at senior, some at junior maybe. Combined schools were poor again, i think this is a failed project that we need to stop wasting money on at this stage.
On an aside, i know 2 6th year students who are on the panel and if you look at the dates for the games, they are in the middle of the leaving cert!! Who came up with this idea/timetable??
Similar to u20 football it seems to be poorly thought out, with little regard for the position these lads will now be put in!!
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The results at under age the past 2 years have been worrying enough. They have taken a lot of beatings and losses to countys you would expect to beat if your wanting to challenge for anything. The Celtic Challenge team were hammered by Dublin tonight aswel. You would imagine the combined schools idea should work. Its mad its not. The more exposure our hurlers have to top oposition the better.
If we could get the New Ross district clubs to finally start hurling to a decent level it would be massive for the county. Cushinstown and Adamstown are the only two teams to play senior for as long as i can remember. Both were poor senior teams at that. A lot of clubs in the district neglected hurling over the past 15 years coinciding with the success of the senior footballers.
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Replying To alwaysasub: "Anyone have any update on the minors this weekend? Any good players to watch out for???" Hope the minors got together earlier this year and got some good team bonding/"playing as a team" sessions in. We dont seem to take the grade as seriously as other counties when it comes to preparation. Our lads sometimes look like they barely know eachother on the pitch let alone where their teammates might run or pass. Think the combined schools team might be suffering from the same. The lads at Peters and Counsel are playing with eachother for years and would then know eachothers game better.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16679 - 09/05/2018 21:59:35
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Replying To Wexboi92: "The results at under age the past 2 years have been worrying enough. They have taken a lot of beatings and losses to countys you would expect to beat if your wanting to challenge for anything. The Celtic Challenge team were hammered by Dublin tonight aswel. You would imagine the combined schools idea should work. Its mad its not. The more exposure our hurlers have to top oposition the better.
If we could get the New Ross district clubs to finally start hurling to a decent level it would be massive for the county. Cushinstown and Adamstown are the only two teams to play senior for as long as i can remember. Both were poor senior teams at that. A lot of clubs in the district neglected hurling over the past 15 years coinciding with the success of the senior footballers." In fairness Taghmon have tried hard and done well promoting hurling at underage. part of the problem seems to be keeping the lads playing the game as they get older.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16679 - 09/05/2018 22:25:51
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Replying To Wexboi92: "The results at under age the past 2 years have been worrying enough. They have taken a lot of beatings and losses to countys you would expect to beat if your wanting to challenge for anything. The Celtic Challenge team were hammered by Dublin tonight aswel. You would imagine the combined schools idea should work. Its mad its not. The more exposure our hurlers have to top oposition the better.
If we could get the New Ross district clubs to finally start hurling to a decent level it would be massive for the county. Cushinstown and Adamstown are the only two teams to play senior for as long as i can remember. Both were poor senior teams at that. A lot of clubs in the district neglected hurling over the past 15 years coinciding with the success of the senior footballers." What a load of rubbish, a lot of clubs in the New Ross district put huge work into hurling and have won numerous county titles in recent years.
Gusserane, St James, Clongeen, Fethard, Adamstown have all won county titles in the last fifteen years and all these clubs have won something in football at the same time.
Good clubs focus on getting young lads into the pitch to play GAA and they end up winning if they have the proper structures in place and give players a fun learning environment.
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Replying To Wexboi92: "The results at under age the past 2 years have been worrying enough. They have taken a lot of beatings and losses to countys you would expect to beat if your wanting to challenge for anything. The Celtic Challenge team were hammered by Dublin tonight aswel. You would imagine the combined schools idea should work. Its mad its not. The more exposure our hurlers have to top oposition the better.
If we could get the New Ross district clubs to finally start hurling to a decent level it would be massive for the county. Cushinstown and Adamstown are the only two teams to play senior for as long as i can remember. Both were poor senior teams at that. A lot of clubs in the district neglected hurling over the past 15 years coinciding with the success of the senior footballers." you talk some rot, in the last 10 years St James have gone from having a first team in Jun D to Intermediate...
comc (Wexford) - Posts: 109 - 10/05/2018 10:02:04
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Replying To Wexboi92: "The results at under age the past 2 years have been worrying enough. They have taken a lot of beatings and losses to countys you would expect to beat if your wanting to challenge for anything. The Celtic Challenge team were hammered by Dublin tonight aswel. You would imagine the combined schools idea should work. Its mad its not. The more exposure our hurlers have to top oposition the better.
If we could get the New Ross district clubs to finally start hurling to a decent level it would be massive for the county. Cushinstown and Adamstown are the only two teams to play senior for as long as i can remember. Both were poor senior teams at that. A lot of clubs in the district neglected hurling over the past 15 years coinciding with the success of the senior footballers." good to see a former senior hurling club from the Ross district in the last 15 years still not bothering with hurling go out and win the Div 1 Feile this year. Imagine what the clubs could do if they actually did bother with hurling then.
Maybe the problem is not so much with the Ross district teams hurling, but the typical snobbery that goes with anyone from the Ross district who wants and is good enough to hurl.
james2011 (Wexford) - Posts: 615 - 10/05/2018 10:57:06
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The combined schools just does not work, they are playing St Kierans, Good Counsel, etc who are playing hurling in PE and lunch-time together.
You would have to ask though, why are Good Counsel doing so much better at underage than Enniscorthy CBS say, they must have 20 hurling clubs feeding in to it. It can't be all the KK influence.
At least St. Peters are holding their own and consistently put it up to Kierans.
I would adapt a no news is good news stance to the minor setups after the acrimony of recent years. The only way is literally up.
Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 10/05/2018 11:29:39
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Sure I'll thrown in my suggestion into the pot ... but it would require a bit of a mind shft.
1. Ring fence the 35-40 lads on the county panel. Accept they are gone completely from the club scene until the county are out of the all ireland championship. Then run the club championship off in round robin in July/August if the county out by end of june. You could use the knock out system in late July/August/September if the county have a good run.
2. Run a club league(minus all ring fenced county players) from February to June. Every club gets 11 games (22 weeks ends between start of February and end of June). Have quarter final or semi finals or final in early July depending upon how far the county has got in the All Ireland series i.e. Wexford county still in the hunt, then have quarter finals and semi final and final; if Wexford already eliminated, then league goes straight to final.
Clubs just want games ... so give it to them.
Managers and county board want county success ... so give them free run with the county players.
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Replying To Punter72007: "Sure I'll thrown in my suggestion into the pot ... but it would require a bit of a mind shft.
1. Ring fence the 35-40 lads on the county panel. Accept they are gone completely from the club scene until the county are out of the all ireland championship. Then run the club championship off in round robin in July/August if the county out by end of june. You could use the knock out system in late July/August/September if the county have a good run.
2. Run a club league(minus all ring fenced county players) from February to June. Every club gets 11 games (22 weeks ends between start of February and end of June). Have quarter final or semi finals or final in early July depending upon how far the county has got in the All Ireland series i.e. Wexford county still in the hunt, then have quarter finals and semi final and final; if Wexford already eliminated, then league goes straight to final.
Clubs just want games ... so give it to them.
Managers and county board want county success ... so give them free run with the county players." Get out of here with your common-sense, logical suggestion to appease both parties!
Unfortunately the county board cabal haven't the same inventive mind when it comes to fixtures.
beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1502 - 10/05/2018 14:15:29
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Replying To Punter72007: "Sure I'll thrown in my suggestion into the pot ... but it would require a bit of a mind shft.
1. Ring fence the 35-40 lads on the county panel. Accept they are gone completely from the club scene until the county are out of the all ireland championship. Then run the club championship off in round robin in July/August if the county out by end of june. You could use the knock out system in late July/August/September if the county have a good run.
2. Run a club league(minus all ring fenced county players) from February to June. Every club gets 11 games (22 weeks ends between start of February and end of June). Have quarter final or semi finals or final in early July depending upon how far the county has got in the All Ireland series i.e. Wexford county still in the hunt, then have quarter finals and semi final and final; if Wexford already eliminated, then league goes straight to final.
Clubs just want games ... so give it to them.
Managers and county board want county success ... so give them free run with the county players." Shame you 're not in charge of fixtures lad! Back when Rathnure then Oulart supplied half the county team you could understand they would be disadvantaged by not having their county men. But for now, at least until some more of the Martins lads get on the panel, no club would be at the loss of more than a couple or a few to the county set up.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16679 - 10/05/2018 14:41:47
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Replying To Punter72007: "Sure I'll thrown in my suggestion into the pot ... but it would require a bit of a mind shft.
1. Ring fence the 35-40 lads on the county panel. Accept they are gone completely from the club scene until the county are out of the all ireland championship. Then run the club championship off in round robin in July/August if the county out by end of june. You could use the knock out system in late July/August/September if the county have a good run.
2. Run a club league(minus all ring fenced county players) from February to June. Every club gets 11 games (22 weeks ends between start of February and end of June). Have quarter final or semi finals or final in early July depending upon how far the county has got in the All Ireland series i.e. Wexford county still in the hunt, then have quarter finals and semi final and final; if Wexford already eliminated, then league goes straight to final.
Clubs just want games ... so give it to them.
Managers and county board want county success ... so give them free run with the county players." Is this not what we basically already have? We have ACHL and championship.
Bar a few more games, I see little difference. And what about dual clubs?
Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 10/05/2018 14:56:25
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this is what we currently have,
there are co. leagues games until June 24th.
22 weeks on the go for dual players is a lot of going...
comc (Wexford) - Posts: 109 - 10/05/2018 15:42:24
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what we have already.no different.
the problem is,wexford could be done by 20th june.it will be full steam ahead then,and anybody with holidays,change them.
so,wait until see how wexford do,then all bets are off,3 games a week in some cases.
i have always maintain we need to play clubs seperate,and the current setup cannot be sustained.
perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 10/05/2018 16:21:46
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Replying To perfect10: "what we have already.no different.
the problem is,wexford could be done by 20th june.it will be full steam ahead then,and anybody with holidays,change them.
so,wait until see how wexford do,then all bets are off,3 games a week in some cases.
i have always maintain we need to play clubs seperate,and the current setup cannot be sustained." Could we run the club hurling and football championships over the months of late July til mid october? That would give us 12 weeks? And make that mid August til end of October if we reach the AI final in Hurling? And Xmas if we reach the AI football final!!!! And keep the ACHL ACFL as is April til June. July off for holidays etc for club players?
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16679 - 11/05/2018 11:28:49
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Well we'll, after all the debate around April being club month, and the subsequent trip to Portugal which scuppered that plan, I now read an article by Lee Chinn that they didn't train once in Portugal !!
yelowbelly (Wexford) - Posts: 409 - 11/05/2018 23:25:32
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Replying To Punter72007: "Sure I'll thrown in my suggestion into the pot ... but it would require a bit of a mind shft.
1. Ring fence the 35-40 lads on the county panel. Accept they are gone completely from the club scene until the county are out of the all ireland championship. Then run the club championship off in round robin in July/August if the county out by end of june. You could use the knock out system in late July/August/September if the county have a good run.
2. Run a club league(minus all ring fenced county players) from February to June. Every club gets 11 games (22 weeks ends between start of February and end of June). Have quarter final or semi finals or final in early July depending upon how far the county has got in the All Ireland series i.e. Wexford county still in the hunt, then have quarter finals and semi final and final; if Wexford already eliminated, then league goes straight to final.
Clubs just want games ... so give it to them.
Managers and county board want county success ... so give them free run with the county players." Makes great sense but seem too logical for the GAA hierarchy.
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Replying To gminor: "Makes great sense but seem too logical for the GAA hierarchy." Any news about the panel Lads for next Sunday
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