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Yes you are giving your opinions why it was a bad day but what are your solutions? If our corner backs are not good enough who would you play there ? If puckouts aren't good enough would you like to see Conor o Leary in the goal? What I am saying is that anybody can list off areas where there are problems but what are your solutions to these problems. I don't think we should be burying our head in the sand and saying everything is grand but negatively without suggestions how to improve any situation simply doesn't help. Gaawex (Wexford) - Posts: 46 - 02/04/2018 11:09:58 2090260 Link 0 |
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You make valid points regarding the championship but don't give up on the lads who have given everything so far this year. There'll be no easy games in the championship but i still figure we'll do well and yesterday didn't change that. We are where we are and with the excepion of injuries, the panel is now consolidated.
gminor (Wexford) - Posts: 488 - 02/04/2018 12:48:09 2090284 Link 0 |
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"Happy with the overall performance today, and we stood up at the end when it was needed. Excellent all over the field. Simon Donohoe was very good. And the whole half bsck line which is probably the key to winning any game. Midfielders again did excellently while Rory o Connor and conor MacDonald were the two most lively in the forwards with jack o Connor very good in the air again". The above paragraph is what you wrote after the Galway game. How has your views changed so much in such a short period of time? Do you even agree with the issues you raised yourself? gminor (Wexford) - Posts: 488 - 02/04/2018 13:05:53 2090287 Link 0 |
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On a side note heard a few lads giving out about the lack of stewards at match yesterday and not near enough turnstiles open , said it was very badly organised and the stewards that were there didn't have a clue what was happening, wasn't at the match just wondering on people's thoughts that were there?? purple2 (Wexford) - Posts: 15 - 02/04/2018 13:20:19 2090291 Link 0 |
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Lets not throw the baby out with the bath water. Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 02/04/2018 13:32:59 2090292 Link 1 |
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Gminor I know what I wrote, why didn't you quote it? Or indeed why don't you look at what I highlighted as issues after the Tipp, Clare and Kilkenny games in the group stage? It was a good performance against Galway. Unfortunately the good performance by Donohoe that day has been the exception rather than the rule over the last year unfortunately. The half back line was good against galway and was generally decent throughout the league. I never mentioned the half back line as being an issue did I? The midfielders have been excellent. Rory o Connor has been excellent and McDonald has been steadily improving. I didn't say either of them were an issue did I? And Jack o Connor was good in the air, but he had a bag game yesterday, but yet again I didn't say this was an issue did I? I think if you take all of what I said rather than just a selective quote then you'll see I have been very consistent in highlighting our issues regardless of whether we happened to win the game or not. 890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 1278 - 02/04/2018 13:33:50 2090294 Link 0 |
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Yesterday was one to forget apart from Rory O Connor's performance and Conor Mc showing what he can do if he gets the right ball close to goal. Gaawex (Wexford) - Posts: 46 - 02/04/2018 14:16:50 2090309 Link 0 |
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Funnily enough i agree with both sides of the tit for tat going on at the minute. Yes we were bad and flat and any other negative buzz word with no real meaning you can think of but I can also see the big picture and huge progress we have made. I am a feet on the ground man and I did not expect a win yesterday, i believe we can beat Kilkenny but lets be honest lads too many people in wexford thought because we got a few wins against them over the last year we have passed them out. Not yet, at best we are level with them in my opinion. hurler101 (Wexford) - Posts: 471 - 02/04/2018 14:41:14 2090328 Link 0 |
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Wexford were very leggy and looked tired. Either we blew our load against Galway (Psychologically or physically) or we over trained during the week. I have never seen them in any game in the last 15 months, second to the ball as much as they were against KK. Punter72007 (Wexford) - Posts: 318 - 02/04/2018 15:10:39 2090337 Link 0 |
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I thought rugby fans were a bit tetchy when it came to any sort of criticism of their sport, but it appears segments of the hurling fraternity are just as bad. There hasn't been any personal criticism of any player, and anything that has been brought up that was negative, has been highlighted many times before. I don't see how people can get so touchy about what at the end of the day is an analysis of the game. Haven't seen anything outlandish being mentioned at all. beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1502 - 02/04/2018 17:33:22 2090383 Link 1 |
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Jesus lads to must negativity on this for me like we had a good campaign it was all about staying in division 1 which we did we beat a Galway team with 11 starters from there all ireland winning team... I do agree with some point do like for a team that is playing 7 defenders we concede to much frees... I thought reck should of been put on Aylward the minute he came on as he has the pace to match him..on fanning his puckout reached the half forward line in the first half against the wind o Learys don't even reach there With the wind... fanning kept us in the game like in the first half of the Walsh cup final which half of the negative posters on this probably were not even at.... it's up to the half forward line to win the ball which we didn't do that... on our team we have never once under dunne or Davy have a full strength panel to choose from due to injury's of players leaving or being dropped James breen was a big loss yesterday.... on the championship I agree it wil be very difficult to get to a Leinster final this year as Dublin wil be very tough then we go to a improving Offaly in there back yard which won't be easy... if we beat them we could scrape into a all ireland quarter final as Galway at home and then going to kk away while kk wil have a 2 week break while we wil have one will take a massive effort....for me we shouldn't even be thinking about Galway and kk Dublin is such a massive game for us it's essential we win if we don't we are chasing straight away gannett83 (Wexford) - Posts: 322 - 02/04/2018 18:54:21 2090402 Link 0 |
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what galls people is certain posters only appearing after a defeat.i agree with you,the reaction is not bad,but some people only come on here to criticise when the hurlers lose. posters who havent posted over the previous matches now suddenly appear?does that not seem coincidental to you? i work near wexford park,i did not make the match,but i heard from 2 people who i would say are "in the know" that wexford had trained hard this week as kilkenny will have had 2 weeks off before the match in nowlan park,so davy wanted to try out with a more heavy legged team. re championship,we need to target winning the first 3 games,and then we can go to nowlan park and throw the kitchen sink at them.a win v dublin is absolutely vital now,they will be better than they were in the league,with the cuola contingent back.i am confident we can have a really good championship.win v dublin and offaly and we are in to a quarter final,but do not rule out shocks in this new structure. looking forward to the club rounds now,i will get to more of them hope. perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 02/04/2018 19:14:11 2090412 Link 0 |
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i also wonder,what has conor firman did wrong or is he injury?i thought he was outstanding in the earlier round where i seen him? perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 02/04/2018 19:23:41 2090416 Link 0 |
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Has anyone disagreed that we had a stinker yesterday? I think the point been made is that we should be judged off our 7 league games not just yesterday, someone here said we'll be underdogs against Dublin in 7 wks which I find a bit extreme, yes they've the cuala players and rushe to come back but they've alot of ground to make up. At least half of our team had there worst performance of the league yesterday and kk were very clearly highly motivated right at pitch of intensity and we looked tired and heavy legged for whatever reason. We reminded me of tipp in last years league final when galway blew them away. Teams in all sports have off days, just look at man city getting knocked out of the fa cup by Wigan. Looking at the league as a whole both foleys, Ryan,Rory O'Connor have all been superb. A few lads have mixed the good and bad but they dont need us to point that out they know that themselves. On the championship we should be just taking it 1 game at a time, 4 games in 4 weeks is a tall order but not an impossible one, Dublin won Leinster in 2013 playing 5 weekends in a row( 2 replays along the way). Hopefully the more contensed nature of this year's league taught us some lessons regarding recovery and training amounts between matches in what will be a demanding Leinster campaign. bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 02/04/2018 19:53:42 2090420 Link 0 |
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Youve 3 main issues. Fanning and Puckouts. Surely thats also an issue with the catchers. And if you want Mark dropped are Conor s puckouts any better? Or perhaps youve spotted some1 at a club game and youre not telling us. Secondly the full back line. Yes we seem to have problems there. Yes Firman looks a good prospect. Reck an even better 1. Byrne looked decent watching the u21s last year. But devereux and donohue have bags of senior experience and both looked ok in some matches in the league. The younger lads might struggle worse up against the top physically big corner forwards in a big match. Breen was a good man marker in the kk borderline illegal kind of way but he has a farm to run. We can't sign a coupla cornerbacks like a soccer club. Obviously as you go to loads of club matches every weekend you would know if there was any1 else. Youve failed to suggest any1. So surely a man of your knowledge can come up with a few suggestions on how devereux and donohue can improve instead of running them down the whole time. Thirdly rory o is the answer to the free taking problem. Part of the problem also has been the workload. Davys style requires a huge physical effort especially from the half backs and half forwards all of whom looked very leggy and tired against kk. All 6 are top players though and Im sure will look sharper come championship. Nolan and Chin looked slow too possibly injured. You dont have to run lads down. We ce the best squad of players weve had since the mid 90s. Main problem for the 2 corner backs was they more often than not had 2 or even 3 kk players running at them because the middle 8 were too tired to keep up with tracking back their runners.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16577 - 02/04/2018 20:23:39 2090430 Link 0 |
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I agree 100 percentage, taught young firman was very good. My biggest concern with the league was that Davy didn't try enough players after we were safe after beating Clare. Like outside of Harry kehoe, Dunbar, Dunne and devereux the rest of the panel hardly got a look in(if he taught there werent good enough then why have them in panel). I think we need to freshen things up, hopefully thompkins, guiney, Liam og, colm kehoe, Moore can get back from injuries and really strengthen the Squad. It is really in depth with a squad that we miss Doran, Breen and shore from the panel this year. However it was a good league campaign, big crowds, some great hurling from the team and Davy doing a good job on the line in general. Well done everyone, regroup and polish up on a few bits and go hard at championship now which is all that really matters. an all ireland semi final spot would be a big target( development wise)from last year
hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1150 - 02/04/2018 20:51:37 2090433 Link 0 |
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Yesterday was disappointing yes but the big positive is that Kilkenny have had to show their hand a bit early in the year to beat wexford, they were very impressive and played to championship pace, unlike other years we will learn more from yesterday's big loss that from a win come the summer.. we now know what to expect from the cats and to be honest I don't thing they will have a lot more in the tank. Chin nolan reck were not fully fit and when Rory o gets to full fitness he will be like an animal!!. Negitives in the standard of donahoe and devereux and jack o in the forwards, jack o very limited at wing forward as he has no right hand. Hope fully guiney can sort out his problems as what a talent, we very short of natural scoring forwards, are Dunbar kehoe and dunne up to this standard??? But as Cody said after match that today's match will have no bearing on summer in nolan park.. Wexford abu tonydoranfan (Wexford) - Posts: 550 - 02/04/2018 20:56:10 2090434 Link 0 |
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This whole 'how many club matches do you attend?' counter-arguement is silly. Like it could be applied to well over half of those who attend Wexford's matches. Work/family commitments may inhibit the casual fan going to club matches and it definitely shouldn't be used as a means to denigrate one's opinion of the game. beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1502 - 02/04/2018 20:56:58 2090435 Link 0 |
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Reck is one of the best up and coming talents in the model of Rory o Stupid post from a man you does not go to matches, firman like his cousin a fine talent but probably needs a few years to mature tonydoranfan (Wexford) - Posts: 550 - 02/04/2018 21:13:05 2090440 Link 0 |
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"Breen was a good man marker in the kk borderline illegal kind of way but he has a farm to run. We can't sign a coupla cornerbacks like a soccer club. Obviously as you go to loads of club matches every weekend you would know if there was any1 else. " perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 02/04/2018 21:21:45 2090443 Link 0 |