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Replying To yelowbelly: "Unfortunately Viking66 you are not comparing like with like. Yes, I can see the merits in your post, but you are talking about a totally different structure. Irish Inter Pro and international rugby players are contracted to the IRFU. In essence, the IRFU can dictate when or where these players play. In fact, the GAA structure is the complete opposite. Club managers want their players for championship, inter county managers want the same players in the county setup, and most of these players are also in demand (some of them on scholarship) with their college/university." But there could something in the essence of this point ... Imagine that 30/36 players get ring fenced for the county panel and they are taken out of the club scene. Then let the clubs play throughout the season in a league format. After Wexford seniors are out of championship, then county players come back in and play the championship in a straight good old fashioned knock out system. Punter72007 (Wexford) - Posts: 318 - 20/03/2018 15:10:36 2086268 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Not wanting to bring barrack sports into it but rugby does have a good solution to this problem. When the autumn internationals and 6 nations are on leinster munster ulster and connaught still play their fixtures. In fact the provinces have to give rest days to the international lads even when there are no internationals in the interest of player welfare. This also means more lads get to play interprovincial and therefore get to improve. And the national rugby team has got better which surely has benefitted the provinces and rugby in general as more young lads take up the sport. Other counties run off club championship games when the county team is still involved in the latter stages of the championship. Y cant our clubs do the same in the interest of the players and the county, and consequently, themselves? A successful county team will only encourage young sportsmen and women to take up, or stick with, hurling. Which will surely benefit the clubs, especially those who are struggling to put 15 out on a pitch. The hurling fraternity in the county need to pull together and realise that a successful county team can only be good for the grassroots." Your solution is well thought out and very logical. I fully agree that's the approach that should be taken. With your suggestion a lot more lads will get game time at club level that otherwise would be spectators from the dugout. That would mean more lads playing huring at a high level, which has to be good for the game overall. Well done Viking66. gminor (Wexford) - Posts: 488 - 21/03/2018 01:27:58 2086498 Link
Time for players to play for 1 team at a time, if you are in college you play only Fitzgibbon/Sigerson until you are knocked out (and then you get a week off after, i.e. you cant play Fitzgibbon Saturday and inter county Sunday), if you are on the county team you play only county, if you are a club player you play only clubs and those competitions are run off without the county men. County players can rejoin when they are knocked out. Sure it gives more average club players senior hurling or football. I also think the match v Galway should have been played under lights this week, and then the KK game played on Sunday. Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 21/03/2018 15:56:07 2086667 Link
Replying To Pinkie: "Time for players to play for 1 team at a time, if you are in college you play only Fitzgibbon/Sigerson until you are knocked out (and then you get a week off after, i.e. you cant play Fitzgibbon Saturday and inter county Sunday), if you are on the county team you play only county, if you are a club player you play only clubs and those competitions are run off without the county men. County players can rejoin when they are knocked out. Sure it gives more average club players senior hurling or football. I also think the match v Galway should have been played under lights this week, and then the KK game played on Sunday." Cant expect clubs to play championship without county players. You cannot punish clubs for getting the best out their players to be part of a county team. Waltermitty2 (Wexford) - Posts: 275 - 21/03/2018 16:24:36 2086682 Link
Replying To Pinkie: "Time for players to play for 1 team at a time, if you are in college you play only Fitzgibbon/Sigerson until you are knocked out (and then you get a week off after, i.e. you cant play Fitzgibbon Saturday and inter county Sunday), if you are on the county team you play only county, if you are a club player you play only clubs and those competitions are run off without the county men. County players can rejoin when they are knocked out. Sure it gives more average club players senior hurling or football. I also think the match v Galway should have been played under lights this week, and then the KK game played on Sunday." Pinkie, it looks good on paper but there are lots of obstacles to be overcome first. Regarding colleges players, many of them are on scholarship and are obliged to give college first preference, but only very recently we had players playing Fitzgibbon or Sigerson and lining out with their county the next day. Every club will want their best players when it comes to championship, whether they have been involved previously or have been away on county duty. And if you have players playing county only, what becomes of the squad player who is only getting a token run-out now & then ? I'm not trying to rain on your parade, these are just obvious problems that I can see. yelowbelly (Wexford) - Posts: 409 - 21/03/2018 17:44:12 2086716 Link
Anyone any ideas on injuries etc... at the moment hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1150 - 21/03/2018 19:06:46 2086750 Link
Replying To Waltermitty2: "Cant expect clubs to play championship without county players. You cannot punish clubs for getting the best out their players to be part of a county team." I agree. What incentive would there be to develop young players in clubs? Also this would deprive the county players of the chance to play with and possibly win a championship with the club that gave them the opportunity to take up the sport in the first place. Whether that's a junior B district championship or an All Ireland club championship makes no difference. I've read many interviews over the years of successful inter county players who won both allireland and club allireland medals. To most of them it's the club medal and representing their parish in Croke Park that was their highlight. The players are the most important part of the GAA. Obviously without them it wouldn't exist but don't forget that without the club people who cut the pitch, put out the flags, sell the lotto tickets, train the kids etc... etc... it couldn't exist either. Gaawex (Wexford) - Posts: 46 - 21/03/2018 20:28:40 2086769 Link
http://www.the42.ie/dcu-ul-freshers-hurling-final-3916282-Mar2018/ Good to see a strong Wexford contingent bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 21/03/2018 21:47:46 2086802 Link
I think club vs county should start their own thread Yellow (Wexford) - Posts: 589 - 21/03/2018 23:00:23 2086823 Link
Why? Are you a county only man? For plenty on here, the 2 are linked. Yellowbelly wrote : "Regarding colleges players, many of them are on scholarship and are obliged to give college first preference, but only very recently we had players playing Fitzgibbon or Sigerson and lining out with their county the next day. " That is my point, they shouldn't be lining out for their county the day after playing Fitzgibbon/Sigerson, it contravenes every bit of scientific knowledge about rest and recovery, but I suppose plenty of managers don't care about that in any case. Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 22/03/2018 10:46:03 2086892 Link
I dont agree with some of the posters have said above. Club is what the GAA should be about!. There is no reason why the provincial and All Ireland cant be finished within the first 6 months of the year (get rid of O'Byrne Cup, make league groupings smaller 6 teams etc). When the county teams are playing, the local leagues can be played (maybe increasing each division to 8 teams) and by July, championship could start club players only have to concentrate on their club while also freeing up time for themselves to actually have a life. Another bonus is that you would know exactly when you are playing as they wouldnt be held up for county teams. alwaysasub (Wexford) - Posts: 494 - 22/03/2018 14:09:52 2086967 Link
Replying To alwaysasub: "I dont agree with some of the posters have said above. Club is what the GAA should be about!. There is no reason why the provincial and All Ireland cant be finished within the first 6 months of the year (get rid of O'Byrne Cup, make league groupings smaller 6 teams etc). When the county teams are playing, the local leagues can be played (maybe increasing each division to 8 teams) and by July, championship could start club players only have to concentrate on their club while also freeing up time for themselves to actually have a life. Another bonus is that you would know exactly when you are playing as they wouldnt be held up for county teams." would agree,get rid of the nonsesne and cut to the point.league,championship,thats that. if i had my way,we would play the all-ireland final in july.leaves more than enough time to plan a calender for the clubs. perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 22/03/2018 14:29:13 2086980 Link
I'm not undermining club - but we are playing all Ireland champs day after tomorrow and there's no chat about it. Yellow (Wexford) - Posts: 589 - 22/03/2018 17:53:18 2087060 Link
Replying To Yellow: "I'm not undermining club - but we are playing all Ireland champs day after tomorrow and there's no chat about it." Any word on team news? Any word on the injured lads? Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16567 - 22/03/2018 22:53:14 2087136 Link
i know it only stands to reason the club's want the best players for their championship teams, however, it doesn't necessary mean the club championship will be finished any sooner. If my memory serves me right, even pre inter county backdoor systems, when County players could be available from June, the county finals were still not played 'til October. gminor (Wexford) - Posts: 488 - 23/03/2018 09:42:52 2087179 Link
Replying To Yellow: "I'm not undermining club - but we are playing all Ireland champs day after tomorrow and there's no chat about it." and somebody is supposed to be playing the county champions next weekend,and that means as much to that club as tomorrow to many people. perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 23/03/2018 11:51:19 2087224 Link
Hoping Nolan Chin and Guiney will be available Yellow (Wexford) - Posts: 589 - 23/03/2018 12:26:34 2087235 Link
If wexford take their chances and keep the two boys on the frees they should do it. Be interesting to see if we can field high ball against galway or will they go short with the puc out Waltermitty2 (Wexford) - Posts: 275 - 23/03/2018 13:10:33 2087242 Link
Same squad as named last week . Anyone know extent of Nolan injury- looks like extra week wasn't enough People expect chin to start tomorrow ? Wexinkk (Wexford) - Posts: 9 - 23/03/2018 22:19:27 2087328 Link
Team announced Aidan Nolan and Jack Guiney still out Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16567 - 23/03/2018 22:36:19 2087331 Link