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After Sunday we will have played every top 8 team in the league bar limerick, couldn't ask for much better championship preparation
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Replying To gminor: "And where would you put Kevin Foley?" True he being outstanding in the league so far. Probably deserves to be instead of o keefe on form at the moment.is shore coming back?
hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1150 - 13/03/2018 16:57:25
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Shore has "taken a year out". Can't see him coming back to be honest
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Replying To Doylerwex: "Shore has "taken a year out". Can't see him coming back to be honest" Did he not have shoulder surgery and was due back soon. I know he went to Spain or somewhere but I heard he was back home. He be massive plus for us
hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1150 - 13/03/2018 21:41:51
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Replying To hunting: "Did he not have shoulder surgery and was due back soon. I know he went to Spain or somewhere but I heard he was back home. He be massive plus for us" Would love to see shore back. Such a pity he done his cruciate when he did.
He may not be the fastest or classiest hurler but he is brave and adds great physicality, could win primary possession and had good distribution.
He would be a valuable addition.
Waldorf.Salad (Wexford) - Posts: 36 - 13/03/2018 21:58:23
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I think if we had a fit Shore and Guiney plus a TJ reid and a really phsical corner back like Jackie Tyrell we would win the All Ireland. We are not far off at this stage - hope there are some more youngsters coming through
Yellow (Wexford) - Posts: 589 - 14/03/2018 10:30:30
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A tj Reid is a big ask. 1 more consistent prolific forward. That could be Rory o connor. Would be nice to have another Liam Ryan cloned for the corner though
Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3836 - 14/03/2018 10:39:42
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Replying To Doylerwex: "A tj Reid is a big ask. 1 more consistent prolific forward. That could be Rory o connor. Would be nice to have another Liam Ryan cloned for the corner though" Absolutely!
I was hoping Darren Byrne was the answer but havent seen a sniff of him all year. Very impressive last year at U21 Full Back
Yellow (Wexford) - Posts: 589 - 14/03/2018 11:12:35
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Replying To Yellow: "Absolutely!
I was hoping Darren Byrne was the answer but havent seen a sniff of him all year. Very impressive last year at U21 Full Back" Darren byrne is an excellent young hurler but has been hammpered by injury so far this season, hopefully he'll regain fitness soon.
On a seperate note I think lads need to stop fantasing about players who are not available at the minute. Andrew shore is recovering from a serious long standing shoulder issue,he may or may not return to the panel next year. We all know what he could potentially offer. Liam Og might see some action in the summer,getting him back to his best would be a superb addition to supplement what is an excellent selection of forwards.
Regarding Reck as the sweeper,yes he is tenacious and does over play the ball a bit but i'd rather a fella drive forward with the ball launching attacks than launch poor deliveries like murphy has been doing. Reck also reads the game very well and having him in this role was something i'm surprised we haven't tried yet. The only decent ball murphy hit last week was the ball for cathal dunbars second point. Other than that he was poor and needs to up his game big time. As i said you cannot afford to have sweeper who needs 4 attempts to pick a ball and mis controls possession even when unchallenged as he has been doing. In fairness to him I thought he played the role superbly for most of last year so it is in him and hopefully he regains form.
cragask (Wexford) - Posts: 892 - 14/03/2018 18:48:55
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Is agree with most people on here with regards Murphy at sweeper. His distribution hasn't been great and I think it was one of the main reasons we struggled sunday.
I'm not sure we have can move him either as we would be creating problems elsewhere.
Maybe we could do something li!e this around d the middle of the field
K Foley
Okeefe, ohanlon, Foley
Nolan , J O'Connor
Chin , R O'Connor, Morris
I think that's one option that might work without upsetting the team too much. Think it would also help Jack out.
Personally i think we just have to sit tight with Murphy and put emphasis on ball distribution with him in training because let's be honest it has to get an awful lot better if we are going to be challenging this year.
Im very worried about the team after the Kilkenny game. I know guys on here didn't really mind losing but if we are being honest with ourselves we were only missing three outfield definite starters. Chin, reck and nolan. Morris came on but there's no guarantees he will be starting come championship either with Dunbar and Dunne looking for places. Firman could also start in the championship although Donohue will more than likely start ahead of him. I think they are as good as each other.
Everyone really tried hard Sunday but I felt it was by far our worst performance of the league which is no surprise as Kilkenny brought a higher level of intensity than anyone else we have played this year.
I really hope Rory is named centre forward at day. He's so influential when he's played out the field. He tried hard when he was in the corner but when he was moved out he started to pull the strings and no surprise we clawed our way back. Our free taking last week also improved. We should stick with the the two boys moving forward.
I really hope we play to our potential this sunday because if we do I think we will beat galway. It would be an absolute shame to go out at this stage after such a great league. Although at the same time it's 9 weeks until the championship from sunday which would davy breathing room to prepare for the championship. I really hope we aren't near our peak yet and that there's a lot more to do e. TJ Reid have an interview Sunday saying that things are going well for them and they are t near their peak yet. Kilkenny are being careful they don't peak too soon.
Wexboi92 (Wexford) - Posts: 74 - 14/03/2018 19:57:36
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Replying To Wexboi92: "Is agree with most people on here with regards Murphy at sweeper. His distribution hasn't been great and I think it was one of the main reasons we struggled sunday.
I'm not sure we have can move him either as we would be creating problems elsewhere.
Maybe we could do something li!e this around d the middle of the field
K Foley
Okeefe, ohanlon, Foley
Nolan , J O'Connor
Chin , R O'Connor, Morris
I think that's one option that might work without upsetting the team too much. Think it would also help Jack out.
Personally i think we just have to sit tight with Murphy and put emphasis on ball distribution with him in training because let's be honest it has to get an awful lot better if we are going to be challenging this year.
Im very worried about the team after the Kilkenny game. I know guys on here didn't really mind losing but if we are being honest with ourselves we were only missing three outfield definite starters. Chin, reck and nolan. Morris came on but there's no guarantees he will be starting come championship either with Dunbar and Dunne looking for places. Firman could also start in the championship although Donohue will more than likely start ahead of him. I think they are as good as each other.
Everyone really tried hard Sunday but I felt it was by far our worst performance of the league which is no surprise as Kilkenny brought a higher level of intensity than anyone else we have played this year.
I really hope Rory is named centre forward at day. He's so influential when he's played out the field. He tried hard when he was in the corner but when he was moved out he started to pull the strings and no surprise we clawed our way back. Our free taking last week also improved. We should stick with the the two boys moving forward.
I really hope we play to our potential this sunday because if we do I think we will beat galway. It would be an absolute shame to go out at this stage after such a great league. Although at the same time it's 9 weeks until the championship from sunday which would davy breathing room to prepare for the championship. I really hope we aren't near our peak yet and that there's a lot more to do e. TJ Reid have an interview Sunday saying that things are going well for them and they are t near their peak yet. Kilkenny are being careful they don't peak too soon." Some good points there regarding Rory O Connor.Your spot on,his move to center forward made a huge difference sunday yet some lads on here in naming there teams have him stuck in the corner again. Not a bad team you have there but i dont think we can afford to move kevin foley from midfield where he has been superb. People are saying ritchie leahy cleaned him in the first but in fact it was aaron maddock marking leahy in the first half not foley. The other concern with your team would be morris wing forward,he is another fella who's form is a concern, id have dunbar and dunne ahead of him at present.People forget David Dunnes best position is probably wing forward. I think dunbar deserves another start aswell. I see other posters have referenced galways forward physicality which did cause us issues last year,we need to be careful to avoid a repeart sunday by dominating possession in the middle third. We can only pick our team based on what we have. We simply have to stop them creating one v ones as we dont have the physique in our full back line to cope with them.
I would disagree with saying we were only missing 3 starters come championship last sunday, fanning,donohoe,lee chin,jack guiney, aidan nolan are 5 certs when fully fit ,thats 5 minimum not mentioning moore,mc govern who will be there or thereabouts when fit.I thought our fb line done well sunday and i'd be inclined to go with deveraux,ryan and firman again,it will be a huge physical test for this line. However our first choice is donohoe and reck but i dont think donohoe is fully fit yet and personally i'd be giving reck at shot at our sweeper role. I've no idea if chin and guiney are fit for sunday? were a long way from peaking yet,several of our big players are only going through the gears at present and will improve as the year goes on ie o keeffe,o hanlon,mc donald.
id go with based on who we have available ;
Fanning
Deveraux
Ryan
Firman
reck= sweeper/free man
P Foley
Moh
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k foley
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roc
l chin
mc donald
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Subs; s donohoe s,murphy,g molly, dee o keeffe,p morris,j guiney,l rochford,m o regan,c kehoe,h kehoe, g foley
cragask (Wexford) - Posts: 892 - 14/03/2018 21:27:37
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so people want to take kevin foley out of midfield from which he has probably scored more than most of our forwards,and put him behind a full back line?
go back and look again,shaun murphy had 1 bad patch in the match where he struggled to pick the ball up.for me,rather than taking him out of the position,i would be saying put 2 hands on the bloddy hurl.
in the clare game,damien reck came out with a couple of balls and coughed them up,gave away a free for dropping the hurl if i am remembering right.this is not sweeper material and sean murphy is the closest we have to a tadgh de burca.dont over react to 1 bad moment in a match.damian reck is our best man marking corner back in my opinion.
and cragask,of those 5 "certs" to start,only chin and nolan are "certs" because the other 3,including fanning,are by no means certs of their places.i was sorry conor o leary didnt get more of a test on sunday to see what he is made from.his puck outs are not as good as fanning,but fanning has leaked poor goals in the league this year.
perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 15/03/2018 09:20:34
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I definitely wouldn't put Kevin Foley in the backs.
He is ideally suited to the role of midfield. An attacking midfielder with the ability to score and get forward at every opportunity is exactly what we need.
If we crowd the midfield which appears to be happening with the top teams we need men who are capable of working hard to win ball and driving forward.
Both Kevin and Aidan Nolan are our best options to
Carry out that role in my opinion. Both have a huge appetite for work and are strong in getting forward.
Murphy has had a few worrying moments this year so far but his hurling will improve as we get closer to championship time as will the ground. I think he performs well in the role and will limit the mistakes
As we progress.
No disrespect to Conor O Leary but I think as a whole Fanning is a better option at the moment.
Goalkeeper is a hard position to compare players in.
A hero one minute can become "useless" overnight with the smallest of mistakes. I think you need to pick your goalkeeper and stay with him at this time of year. Tough on the sub goalie I know but you need to build confidence in your first choice keeper and get him playing as many games as are available.
That's an opinion which a lot will disagree with I know.
It's been said before nearly every match this year but I think Sunday will be a good test of where we're at. I'm glad we didn't top the group as we need to be playing the Galway's, Tipps etc... at this time of year if we're to challenge them in the summer.
There is a massive difference in everyone approach early in the league but the quarter finals is where teams are getting more serious and looking to get their championship teams sorted.
A win for us would set up a nice tasty encounter with KK (you would assume) in a league semi and you couldn't ask for better preparation than that for the championship.
Gaawex (Wexford) - Posts: 46 - 15/03/2018 12:01:02
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Replying To perfect10: "so people want to take kevin foley out of midfield from which he has probably scored more than most of our forwards,and put him behind a full back line?
go back and look again,shaun murphy had 1 bad patch in the match where he struggled to pick the ball up.for me,rather than taking him out of the position,i would be saying put 2 hands on the bloddy hurl.
in the clare game,damien reck came out with a couple of balls and coughed them up,gave away a free for dropping the hurl if i am remembering right.this is not sweeper material and sean murphy is the closest we have to a tadgh de burca.dont over react to 1 bad moment in a match.damian reck is our best man marking corner back in my opinion.
and cragask,of those 5 "certs" to start,only chin and nolan are "certs" because the other 3,including fanning,are by no means certs of their places.i was sorry conor o leary didnt get more of a test on sunday to see what he is made from.his puck outs are not as good as fanning,but fanning has leaked poor goals in the league this year." 'i would be saying put 2 hands on the bloddy hurl. '
Perfect10,
Enjoyed that comment. I have a 10yr old son who I am ALWAYS telling to put his 2 hands on the hurl when picking the ball up!!!
Anyway, at a recent match in wx park, I think joc missed a pick up with one hand!! My scut of a lad roars at him to 'put both hands on the hurl!!'
I said 'pot, kettle, black' which I had to then spend 10mins explaining!!!!!
Waldorf.Salad (Wexford) - Posts: 36 - 15/03/2018 20:34:44
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Replying To perfect10: "so people want to take kevin foley out of midfield from which he has probably scored more than most of our forwards,and put him behind a full back line?
go back and look again,shaun murphy had 1 bad patch in the match where he struggled to pick the ball up.for me,rather than taking him out of the position,i would be saying put 2 hands on the bloddy hurl.
in the clare game,damien reck came out with a couple of balls and coughed them up,gave away a free for dropping the hurl if i am remembering right.this is not sweeper material and sean murphy is the closest we have to a tadgh de burca.dont over react to 1 bad moment in a match.damian reck is our best man marking corner back in my opinion.
and cragask,of those 5 "certs" to start,only chin and nolan are "certs" because the other 3,including fanning,are by no means certs of their places.i was sorry conor o leary didnt get more of a test on sunday to see what he is made from.his puck outs are not as good as fanning,but fanning has leaked poor goals in the league this year." I agree that Murphy only really had a bad patch and got caught a few times, apart from that he's been his usual solid self.
The thing with putting Foley back sweeper though means it opens the game up for us a little. Murphy is a tidy sweeper who uses the ball well but is limited in what he does.
Foley however is a different proposition, Foley has an absolute monster of a swing on him and is capable of accurately driving the ball some 20 yards further down the pitch than Murphy is. That in itself opens up opportunities for us which is what Davy May be thinking about.
If Murphy comes out with the ball past our half back line he's going to try and find a player every time and other teams know that. However if I'm looking at Foley coming out as an opposition manager I'm thinking this fella has the ability to ping this over the bar from the middle of the park so what do we do know? Galway showed last year the value in long range point scoring and I think in Foley Davy possibly sees this ability and if he's being played as a sweeper it allows him that space to do just that.
Of course it's not going to work every day and it will be horses for courses but I expect to see Foley and Murphy alternate as sweeper a lot over the summer.
Leave reck where he is for me also.
tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1534 - 16/03/2018 10:49:09
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Will Chin and Guiney be fit?
Yellow (Wexford) - Posts: 589 - 16/03/2018 12:25:40
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Fanning
Donahue Ryan Reck
Murphy
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Nolan K Foley
Chin ROC JOC
Mac Morris
If Guiney fit Id start him and have O Keefe as an impact sub
Fanning
Donahue Ryan Reck
Murphy
Foley Hanlon JOC
Chin Guiney ROC
Mac Morris
Yellow (Wexford) - Posts: 589 - 16/03/2018 12:29:07
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With same midfield K Foley and A Nolan
Yellow (Wexford) - Posts: 589 - 16/03/2018 14:11:37
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No chin or Nolan on Sunday - team named
Yellow (Wexford) - Posts: 589 - 16/03/2018 23:41:20
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Replying To Yellow: "No chin or Nolan on Sunday - team named" Strong team though even without them. Should be a great game!
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16567 - 17/03/2018 08:45:40
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