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If Dublin is to be split then surely Kerry, with 37 All Ireland titles, must also. Splitting Dublin will benefit two counties imo- Meath and Kerry. Hence Colm O Rourkes whinging. galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2614 - 21/09/2017 11:44:37 2048948 Link 1 |
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Agreed, talk of splitting counties is crazy. The championship structure is the bigger issue, the Leinster Championship is a dead duck at this stage. There is a multiplicity of threads about this so i am not going to get in to potential new structures but how are the likes of Meath, Offaly and Kildare supposed to build for the future when they know they are in for a hiding every year from Dublin. We can throw all the funding we want at them but I can't see them making the required progress until they are properly resourced and have a realistic target to aim for. You could say the same about Munster but the issues there are a bit different due to the strength of hurling, football is second fiddle everywhere except Kerry and that is arguably a more difficult conundrum to tackle if you want a better competition. GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2113 - 21/09/2017 13:01:56 2048983 Link 0 |
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They should especially if playing club football in kildare or Meath or wherever..we are the glamour team though and very successful so wouldn't be too sure of people adopting their new county
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 21/09/2017 18:13:38 2049105 Link 0 |
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I can't imagine the second team being well supported either can you?
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 21/09/2017 18:14:11 2049106 Link 0 |
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The spilt Dublin thing has a small bit of merit to it but time will tell..dont agree with myself but can understand some of the reasons for it..amalagamating counties on the other hand is one of the stupidest ideas iv ever heard and goes against everything the gaa stands for which is all about representing where you are from..the people suggesting this don't really seem to understand what the gaa is about alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 21/09/2017 18:17:34 2049108 Link 0 |
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Stupid idea and childish
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 21/09/2017 18:18:56 2049109 Link 0 |
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Realistically a better spread of money/revenue sharing is the way to go..thats something fair that could be addressed and I don't see why any of us would have much issue with that
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 21/09/2017 18:21:23 2049111 Link 0 |
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Meath? Think lot of counties benefit a lot more than Meath
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 21/09/2017 18:22:04 2049112 Link 0 |
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Maurice, you are new here on HS. This debate rears its head regularly here and the vast majority, not just Dubs are against splitting Dublin. Forcing counties to amalgamate will not work nor should it happen. No one wants to win an All-Ireland except with their own county. This is the basis of the GAA All-Ireland championship structure. The system is not broken simply because Dublin have won three in a row. When Kerry won 4 in a row and were within minutes of winning 5 was there a call for them to be split? No. The question of funding the disparity in funding can be adressed seperately. lilywhite1 (Kildare) - Posts: 3028 - 22/09/2017 00:38:36 2049220 Link 1 |
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Not being a football man but I never heard any calls for splitting Kerry up with those past dominant Kerry teams or any calls for splitting up a very dominant Kilkenny in hurling . There don't seem to be much of a gap between Dublin, Mayo and Kerry. Dublin won '11,'13,'16 and '17 by a single point and '15 by three points with a replay required to do it in '16, not exactly a gulf . The big population advantage is just a mirage, just let it take it's course as it was with past great Kerry teams, rather than have a split 'em in two panic attack. Kilkenny's consistent very high standard for the past decade and a half or so has risen the tide of other counties as well, hurling is competitive right now and played at a high standard in the more traditional counties, non traditional counties of course need more attention, this Dublin spell, in the longer term can be a good thing it will force other teams to up the ante murrax (Wexford) - Posts: 90 - 22/09/2017 05:50:16 2049226 Link 0 |
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The All Ireland Final, where the better team lost, shows that Dublin are a good team but they're far from unbeatable - provided we don't run around hyping then up and falling into the trap of admiring them. No need to split anyone up. essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 22/09/2017 09:58:30 2049255 Link 0 |
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My suggestions to amalgamate other counties was made in jest as a Dubliner that completely disagrees at the any sort of plan to split Dublin in two. Maurice (Dublin) - Posts: 22 - 22/09/2017 10:33:00 2049267 Link 0 |
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The All Ireland final , were the better team won , shows Dublin are more than a good team They are an exceptional team ! but it also shows Dublin like every team are beatable. No team is unbeatable. superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2842 - 22/09/2017 13:36:29 2049329 Link 0 |
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Sure if they split Dublin we'd never stop winning the All-Ireland. Sam would just reside in a different part of Dublin each year. avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1994 - 22/09/2017 14:06:37 2049344 Link 0 |
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The reality is that if the county was split the massive amount of players and supporters would walk away. We'd win sweet FA. Which I believe is why some people would like to see a split. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13802 - 22/09/2017 14:20:54 2049350 Link 1 |
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Everybody knows that Dublin are beatable from last Sunday, they won by the smallest of margin. Mayo knew before last Sunday as well, with their draws from last year and in 2015, also their win in the 2012 All-Ireland semi- final against Dublin. So little between Dublin & Mayo. Two great teams. Hopefully Mayo will get their reward shortly with an All-Ireland title. With reference to splitting Dublin, Colm O Rourke should look for inspiration from Mayo to compete with Dublin for his native county, the county of Meath has a huge population much bigger than Mayo or Kerry. The counties that have really dominated their codes in the 21st century are Killkenny in hurling and Cork in Ladies football, I do not hear any calls for their counties to be split. Dublin will not be split in five Colum, dream on with your articles. fainleog (Limerick) - Posts: 602 - 22/09/2017 14:45:02 2049360 Link 0 |
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Lads ye should listen to the Ewan makenna Sean Kelly podcast on off the ball I think it was , it might open some of ye'r eyes for ye. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 23/09/2017 00:11:23 2049489 Link 0 |
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I think this is the more likely scenario if im honest. Imagine what it would do for the GAA to loose that market and deals that market is built on. in another extreame note I actually think Dublin would consider a break away from the GAA myself, similar to what was seen in the PL. It has happened in so many sports and their innital governing body. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4517 - 23/09/2017 09:38:58 2049512 Link 0 |
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Dublin have the population of a province and the finances of a province therefore does it not make more since for them to have more than one team? KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 23/09/2017 12:12:29 2049550 Link 0 |
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I heard that and there was some very good points raised on it. Ewan McKenna was a bit all over the place though, when queried on one of his figures he quickly changed the subject. I would like to see a full and unbiased like for like breakdown of where money is going in the GAA. Funding is distributed by multiple sporting bodies so it's difficult to get a proper comparison.
GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2113 - 23/09/2017 18:23:53 2049655 Link 1 |