gaalltheway (Fermanagh) - Posts: 806 - 18/07/2017 18:05:57    2018835

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 18/07/2017 18:10:27    2018838

I would have serious concerns about Dom. Also added issue of two sons in the squad! Was Ciaran Donnelly not in with Canavan? Do you not remember how that ended! Nigel seeney defin a good shout! However the final say will rest with the players or rather the 5 or 6 vocal ones!!!

Molaise (Fermanagh) - Posts: 96 - 18/07/2017 18:42:22    2018853

Molaise the vote was 21 to 9 in favour of a new manager not 5 or 6 players as you suggest!
Regardless of some shortcomings, Dom stands out as the best man to get Fermanagh out of the mess left by McGrath. Yourself and gotmilk are a bit like macca999 as you sit on the fence and won't name a prospective manager for the vacancy but rather you lot enjoy making unwarranted criticism of any suggestions.
Meanwhile, how can McGrath rubbish the Fermanagh players in the Belfast Telegraph by saying that they are misguided and wrong. How the hell can he say they are wrong when he doesn't know the future outcome under any new manager?

Coa_gael (Fermanagh) - Posts: 1185 - 18/07/2017 20:20:04    2018908

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 18/07/2017 20:29:30    2018915

Molaise (Fermanagh) - Posts: 96 - 18/07/2017 21:16:04    2018941

Oh oh it getting hot in here...ease of Molaise or it will be handbags at 10 paces... lol...stick to your table quizzes E as you know little about the internals of the county footballing scene...and Dave your McConville suggestion is a rare one considering the guy's lack of inter county management experience...Dom is the man that's best placed to harness the best our players have to offer...and what's more he will pick up players previously ignored by the ex-manager.

TurnipHead. (Fermanagh) - Posts: 253 - 18/07/2017 22:07:02    2018966

The current stories surrounding the county team are doing nobody any favours,the county board,the players or Pete McGrath.
Few things noted from situation and sideline
1. Bad communication from county board not to have liaised with players or taken some time to review season before re-appointing McGrath last week
2. Pete McGrath owes Fermanagh nothing,in his time he achieved as much as anyone could have with the resources available,until this year Fermanagh were highly competitive,gave 100% every time
3. This year team hit with retirements and lads travelling,this was underestimated and being realistic was going to be hard to build on previous years given lack of underage success
4. Players lacked hungers and desire shown in the previous 3 years(games against Kildare and Meath),looked as if lost interest under management....no excuse when representing your county

Good article in telegraph today,find it totally unfair that players were questioning the introduction of two subs in the Monaghan games(Jones,Courtney,Beacom and Keenan were players brought on that day)shows lack of respect for management,some should be more concerned with own lack of performance in 2017 Players getting too much power and this will surely lead to fallout among players in accusing some of not putting the work in.
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/gaa/misguided-erne-stars-have-got-it-all-wrong-says-ex-fermanagh-boss-pete-mcgrath-35940435.html

From watching games this year id agree that was probably time for change to re-energise the panel,as only very few managers nowdays can continually inspire the same players to put in commitment required at inter-county level for 5 years or more. This whole debacle wont help in attracting in new manager,especially if hoping to attain outsider.

Talk of Corrigan gathering momentum,although with two sons on the panel id say its less than ideal(would this have been influence in voting for McGrath to leave). Not easy situation as Mark Harte found out playing for Tyrone number of years ago.
Just when though the 2017 couldnt get any worse it does. Lets hope thats end of the publicity on this,county board starts planning ahead to future and get set-up in time for club championship

macca999 (Fermanagh) - Posts: 1170 - 18/07/2017 22:40:34    2018984

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 18/07/2017 23:04:56    2018995

Molaise (Fermanagh) - Posts: 96 - 19/07/2017 09:19:00    2019082

gaalltheway (Fermanagh) - Posts: 806 - 19/07/2017 10:31:46    2019120

Molaise (Fermanagh) - Posts: 96 - 19/07/2017 12:08:53    2019198

And so the Molaise rant still goes on...and on...so you do not seem to get it that 21 players to 9 favoured change...voted by intelligent adults many of whom are from the legal, teaching and financial sectors... that's what's called democracy... as for reappointment the procedure is simpler does not carry require the same amount tick-boxes as there would be for the appointment of a new manager...however I think on hindsight that the players should have been consulted before confirming McGrath's continuing management...I agree with gaalltheway that McGrath's disclosure of internal matters was less than honourable...the players and I know many of them personally are gentleman and deserve better press than they are getting...so let this be the end of this rant against our galant lads in green and white!

TurnipHead. (Fermanagh) - Posts: 253 - 19/07/2017 13:57:47    2019282

Interesting quote from the Irish independent

There wasn't too much wrong less than 23 months ago when they were still involved in championship football, marching through the qualifiers and lauding McGrath's impact.

But when the milk turned sour, there was little time for introspection. Point your forefinger, and you'll find that three point back at you. It's up to the players to explain their stance now.

Molaise (Fermanagh) - Posts: 96 - 19/07/2017 18:27:25    2019478

As an outsider with an interest in Fermanagh football, as I lived for some years in the county, I'm disappointed that Fermanagh finds itself in the difficult situation it is now in. There are no winners when this happens and the character of manager, management and players is often much maligned. Hopefully the County Board can find some young up-and-coming manager quickly so that everyone can move on quickly before relationships become very soured.
I see that one of your regular posters takes exception to outsiders like myself posting about Fermanagh matters but 'outsiders' post on most County sites because of some connection to the county.

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 19/07/2017 20:01:19    2019516

I think there silence says a lot about them (the player). Some of the rumours doing the rounds about McGrath's treatments of players is quite damming of the man. He has spoken to numerous outlets about the incident since the heave yet they haven't disclosed anything. They don't want to tarnish his reputation but he's willing to do it to the players. That for me says everything.
gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts:4343 - 19/07/2017 13:38:17

If McGrath had to step down gracefully, most people would have had some respect for him. His onslaught of player criticism and private changing room revelations from his perspective really diminishes the standing of the man. I know it takes two to tango but the players have collectively remained reserved and thereby have made McGrath look even more of a pathetic rejected manager.

ekn_teacher (Fermanagh) - Posts: 272 - 20/07/2017 00:07:40    2019683

Nothing against these lads but Jones came on against Monaghan, after missing the whole year through injury. R.Corrigan out for 10 months and gets played against Armagh. Then Pete had the cheek to say there was no preferential treatment. And then like usual with everything, he goes STRAIGHT to the media. Might have suited him better to listen to players concerns rather than drafting up his next Newspaper article!

shotgun (Fermanagh) - Posts: 130 - 20/07/2017 00:46:42    2019693

Looking at reports that Tyrone lash out a decade of the rosary before their matches, maybe Fermanagh should look at Fr Brian Darcy as manager? With such a small pool of players to pick from and limited fire power up front, maybe some divine intervention is the best hope?

local (Fermanagh) - Posts: 154 - 20/07/2017 10:15:32    2019785

It's becoming quite obvious that Pete McGrath having had his ego damaged is digging an ever bigger hole for himself by his deliberate media crusade against the players concerned by giving his selective take as to why the Fermanagh team rejected him. Meanwhile, the real truth remains untold by the players and their silence is not only diplomatic but a clever, welcomed and praiseworthy position to adapt.

Now to the important stuff, who is likely to take the vacant manager's position? Those in the frame so far include Dom Corrigan, Ciaran Donnelly, Sean Cavanagh (retiring this year from county football), former manager John Maughan, Oisin McConville and there's the want-to-be county manager Aidan Gilroy or even Charlie Mulgrew who gets a recall mention on social media! But what about the talented Derrygonnelly club manager, Martin Greene? He comes with a pretty healthy success in club football. Then there are the former county footballers and Allstar winners Peter McGinnity (with significant managerial experience), Barry Owens and Martin McGrath all capable of giving the team a fresh start. So who is it to be? macca999 and gotmilk any thoughts?

The_Rat (Fermanagh) - Posts: 54 - 20/07/2017 11:12:59    2019836

My money is on an Owens and McGrath partnership. Both recent retirees, sound commentators in newsprint, know Fermanagh players from their current involvement in Club games, seem committed and are Fermanagh men to the core. Can anybody come up with a better solution?

hairyhorse (Fermanagh) - Posts: 94 - 20/07/2017 11:41:44    2019855